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Topic: What's with the buying panic of novacoin? (Read 2190 times)

legendary
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July 27, 2013, 12:44:00 PM
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Guys, why don't you ask Balthazar about the reasons Smiley?
member
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Btw, why is everybody forgot that the "premined" coins were destroyed by btc-e?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/110k-premined-nvc-is-successfully-destroyed-144158

The fact it existed in the first place is telling.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Btw, why is everybody forgot that the "premined" coins were destroyed by btc-e?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/110k-premined-nvc-is-successfully-destroyed-144158
sr. member
Activity: 604
Merit: 250
Haters need to use a word "scam" more often, may be 3-4 times across the sentence, more novascam, russkie bastards coin, red russian scam and so on.
PoW+PoS coins are the future, cause they are less vunerable to attacks and more energy efficient)
So, it's quite logical that NVC, bottlecaps, bitgem, bitbar etc have their value.

I like PoS, but that doesn't mean we need more PPC-clones that don't add much more. Especially ones with premines.

The interest rate was changed from 1% to around 50%. But it was done in the open with lots of advance warning. So I wouldn't call it a scam.. but I'm confused too as to why the price went up. If the Bitcoin devs even thought about trying the same thing it would be an epic coin-ageddon.

PoS made me a little bit uneasy with how it just gives more money to people doing nothing with money, but PPC's rate being 1%/year didn't bother me too much, as that's below most economies' inflation rates. Anything a little higher than common inflation rates is a bit weird. But you've got to be kidding about 50%, right?

Not kidding Smiley The rate will decrease from 50% very slowly with time. Right now it decreases in relation to the amount of stake being mined to the power 1/6. It's the 1/6 that is going to keep it very high for a long time.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1009
Yeah its like any other high interest ponzi scheme, everyone knows the risk but as long as they make a profit they don't care. Standard fare.

-MarkM-

Pretty professional comments out there.
I advise you to learn what Ponzi scheme is.
legendary
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Yeah its like any other high interest ponzi scheme, everyone knows the risk but as long as they make a profit they don't care. Standard fare.

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1009
See, told you they will decrease the interest rates once their cronies have multiplied their stake with insane interest rates.

-MarkM-

There's no "they", the rate is being ruled by participants who can be anyone.

That's what I thought as well.  But what if, because of their questionable start, 'they' own well over 51% of all coins in existence?

But to answer this thread's title question, I think it's a combination of the sequence of recent attacks on blockchains and the increased awareness of the security characteristics of a PoS or PoW/PoS hybrid coin.  Even altcoins like CAP and CGB are rising in sympathy.  It's interesting to watch.
That's possible and I am sure someone owns large sums. But in the network they are the same as others, getting the same interest. And if they are getting large interest rewards now, so are other stakeholders. At best they can try to maintain their stake as percentage of money supply, but there's still pow minting that debases their stake.

Large holders are critical to currency survival because they are incentivized to keep the currency afloat. But if they dump I will only buy more because of pos. At least anyone knows the risk.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
See, told you they will decrease the interest rates once their cronies have multiplied their stake with insane interest rates.

-MarkM-

There's no "they", the rate is being ruled by participants who can be anyone.

That's what I thought as well.  But what if, because of their questionable start, 'they' own well over 51% of all coins in existence?

But to answer this thread's title question, I think it's a combination of the sequence of recent attacks on blockchains and the increased awareness of the security characteristics of a PoS or PoW/PoS hybrid coin.  Even altcoins like CAP and CGB are rising in sympathy.  It's interesting to watch.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1009
See, told you they will decrease the interest rates once their cronies have multiplied their stake with insane interest rates.

-MarkM-

There's no "they", the rate is being ruled by participants who can be anyone.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1019
According to this: http://coinmarketcap.com/
Novacoin has been really bullish during the last 7 days. Is it a bubble forming? I honestly think that NVC is just another scamcoin ( copy-paste from LTC + copy-paste from PPC ). Therefore it really bothers me that it's going up like that. Can anyone explain the phenomenon?
This phenomenon is amazing only for those who still believe that the NVC is scamcoin.  Cheesy

Everybody can study  NVC conception and understand "what & why".  Wink
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
See, told you they will decrease the interest rates once their cronies have multiplied their stake with insane interest rates.

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1009
Haters need to use a word "scam" more often, may be 3-4 times across the sentence, more novascam, russkie bastards coin, red russian scam and so on.
PoW+PoS coins are the future, cause they are less vunerable to attacks and more energy efficient)
So, it's quite logical that NVC, bottlecaps, bitgem, bitbar etc have their value.

I like PoS, but that doesn't mean we need more PPC-clones that don't add much more. Especially ones with premines.

The interest rate was changed from 1% to around 50%. But it was done in the open with lots of advance warning. So I wouldn't call it a scam.. but I'm confused too as to why the price went up. If the Bitcoin devs even thought about trying the same thing it would be an epic coin-ageddon.

PoS made me a little bit uneasy with how it just gives more money to people doing nothing with money, but PPC's rate being 1%/year didn't bother me too much, as that's below most economies' inflation rates. Anything a little higher than common inflation rates is a bit weird. But you've got to be kidding about 50%, right?

You definitely don't understand PoS. First of all, PPC would be dead without centralized checkpointing, that's the problem being addressed in NVC.

PoS is about blockchain security and transaction confirming. Do you really think creating PoS is doing nothing?
The interest rate is made variable and it's initally high because of low difficulty, just like the minting when coin starts. It will decrease with time.
legendary
Activity: 1311
Merit: 1000

Who cares about the launch, or the pre-mine (or the mess that followed).  BTC was pre-mined.  That scamcoin is the 2nd most valuable crypto out there...  Just sayin.

Well there were more shady activities involved other than a premine. But yea, shady devs and premine seems to make a coin popular today.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 510
According to this: http://coinmarketcap.com/
Novacoin has been really bullish during the last 7 days. Is it a bubble forming? I honestly think that NVC is just another scamcoin ( copy-paste from LTC + copy-paste from PPC ). Therefore it really bothers me that it's going up like that. Can anyone explain the phenomenon?

Total supply 326,217 NVC
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
may i ask... so when is a altcoin finally not a scam coin? by your standards of course.....
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
FlutterCoin Developer
People, you better do some research before posting smth like ppc-clone and nothing more, scam, premine, 50% interest and so on..
But, I can understand, that someone just hate NVC/Balthazar or just everything that smells "russian"  Grin

Oh please, one of the most infamous launches in history defined nvc forever as a scamcoin. Too bad...
Who cares about the launch, or the pre-mine (or the mess that followed).  BTC was pre-mined.  That scamcoin is the 2nd most valuable crypto out there...  Just sayin.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
FlutterCoin Developer
Well, in Russia you don't own Novacoin, Novacoin own you
legendary
Activity: 1311
Merit: 1000
People, you better do some research before posting smth like ppc-clone and nothing more, scam, premine, 50% interest and so on..
But, I can understand, that someone just hate NVC/Balthazar or just everything that smells "russian"  Grin

Oh please, one of the most infamous launches in history defined nvc forever as a scamcoin. Too bad...
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
People, you better do some research before posting smth like ppc-clone and nothing more, scam, premine, 50% interest and so on..
But, I can understand, that someone just hate NVC/Balthazar or just everything that smells "russian"  Grin

You list out issues with the coin, and then dismiss people that hate that coin as just being racists? That's an interesting debate strategy.
sr. member
Activity: 303
Merit: 250
People, you better do some research before posting smth like ppc-clone and nothing more, scam, premine, 50% interest and so on..
But, I can understand, that someone just hate NVC/Balthazar or just everything that smells "russian"  Grin
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