When a Gambler/Player Dies - page 3.

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Quote from: eternalgloom on January 15, 2018, 08:35:04 AM

I'm of the opinion that it's the players responsibility to make sure relatives have access to any accounts that have any value on them.
In most cases, your partner at least knows how to access your e-mail account, that would also be sufficient to gain access to any gambling accounts etc.

I have no doubt that my own partner can access all funds tied to my name, offline or online.
This is stuff you need to plan for, however unlikely that it may seem for it to happen, be prepared.

We all know that not all husbands or men do tell secrets even on their wives of husbands which they will keep that information as private as they can. We do have the same views on handling informations thats should not be kept alone or doesnt let your partner or relatives know on those informations.We dont have control over death but atleast we are already prepared.

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Quote from: LuanX3 on January 19, 2018, 12:36:15 AM

Pretty interesting, I guess it would be on a case to case basis or should I say site to site. Since this will really depend on the circumstance of the person and the policy of the gambling site. It will really be hard to say if the owner did die or if someone was just able to hack the account and pretending to be the family of the dead gambler. It will really hard to say especially that there is no KYC on 99% of the cryptocurrency gambling sites.

Really hard to find out if the person really dies, I think if this thing happen your money will stay on your account until the site notice of your inactive status and will lock it for sure. Well, if you really want to make your money worth it try to tell about this on a trusted member of your family so at least if something happen to you, your money will help your family to survive even if without you.

The thing here is that we wont able to say such thing because whose man would able to know on when he would die? I would be sure that most of us will make this a secret because we dont like for our family to know on what we are spending on specially on gambling.For the house itself its hard to determine directly if the owner dies but on big amounts being store on the account it will surely call an attention.

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Quote from: LuanX3 on January 19, 2018, 12:36:15 AM

Pretty interesting, I guess it would be on a case to case basis or should I say site to site. Since this will really depend on the circumstance of the person and the policy of the gambling site. It will really be hard to say if the owner did die or if someone was just able to hack the account and pretending to be the family of the dead gambler. It will really hard to say especially that there is no KYC on 99% of the cryptocurrency gambling sites.

Really hard to find out if the person really dies, I think if this thing happen your money will stay on your account until the site notice of your inactive status and will lock it for sure. Well, if you really want to make your money worth it try to tell about this on a trusted member of your family so at least if something happen to you, your money will help your family to survive even if without you.

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Quote from: iv4n on January 19, 2018, 11:21:30 AM

Quote from: piloder on January 19, 2018, 02:36:09 AM

I don't think there is any such rules in any casino if they are not registered somewhere and if the amount stucked in account is not big than casino might not care about returning those amount.

The only way to prove ownership in casino right now is access to registered email address or bitcoin address from which user have deposited before.

And there is just one way to prove ownership? Let's say for example nitrogen you can register and play just with password, so what kind of ownership you can possibly have?
Its not about casino or law here, simply if you have the keys you can get to the money, in this particular case keys are username or email and passwords, if you don't have it will stay there until casino replenish that amount after years of inactivity or shutting down casino.

What do you mean you can play with just password, is there no 2fa things to make sure your account is safe? And more over you really need to have email to register on any site, you can't just register with some of your password only. To retrieve it back you will face some questions to be asked to maeke sure you are the owner or even you close to them. So without those, you cant retrieve it, not even a penny. But usually 2fa, password and email can do everything

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Quote from: piloder on January 19, 2018, 02:36:09 AM

I don't think there is any such rules in any casino if they are not registered somewhere and if the amount stucked in account is not big than casino might not care about returning those amount.

The only way to prove ownership in casino right now is access to registered email address or bitcoin address from which user have deposited before.

And there is just one way to prove ownership? Let's say for example nitrogen you can register and play just with password, so what kind of ownership you can possibly have?
Its not about casino or law here, simply if you have the keys you can get to the money, in this particular case keys are username or email and passwords, if you don't have it will stay there until casino replenish that amount after years of inactivity or shutting down casino.

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I don't think there is any such rules in any casino if they are not registered somewhere and if the amount stucked in account is not big than casino might not care about returning those amount.

The only way to prove ownership in casino right now is access to registered email address or bitcoin address from which user have deposited before.

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Pretty interesting, I guess it would be on a case to case basis or should I say site to site. Since this will really depend on the circumstance of the person and the policy of the gambling site. It will really be hard to say if the owner did die or if someone was just able to hack the account and pretending to be the family of the dead gambler. It will really hard to say especially that there is no KYC on 99% of the cryptocurrency gambling sites.

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There is only one way for the family of a deceased person can access all his wealth in crypto currencies that is if they know the authentication needed to open their accounts but as far as I know only few people here share every details about their earnings or savings. But this thing should be consider because as we all know nothing here is permament and none can tell when will our last day in earth so we should prepare something for this issue better make some sort of information in a sheet of paper then put in your vault.

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I am pretty sure this already happened a few times on old sites like Primedice.

Either the gambler lost his username/password, died, or got Alzheimer, etc.

Unless someone finds his computer and manages to find the username/password he used, then its probably impossible to get it back.

If a site goes out of business. They will most likely give everyone notice "Please withdraw within next 365 days" and then they consider it as a donation.

I am pretty sure there is a clause written somewhere in the terms. That if the money is not withdrawn within a specific time-frame its considered a donation.

Pretty much alot of pools do that these days even.

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If other family members have access to bitcoin wallet of that gambler than they can contact casino and provide enough proofs to prove that he/she is relatives of the gambler who is no more alive. Alternatively they can reset password for that casino as they can easily get access to gamblers email in his mobile/pc.

However haven't heard such case till now and also haven't seen any terms and condition regarding this mentioned in tos of any casino site.

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I'm of the opinion that it's the players responsibility to make sure relatives have access to any accounts that have any value on them.
In most cases, your partner at least knows how to access your e-mail account, that would also be sufficient to gain access to any gambling accounts etc.

I have no doubt that my own partner can access all funds tied to my name, offline or online.
This is stuff you need to plan for, however unlikely that it may seem for it to happen, be prepared.

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Quote from: investerS on January 12, 2018, 04:03:23 AM

I have been thinking of a question but have not got a suitable answer, in case a gambler or player who has big money in his account dies, what happens to his money? If the family eventually get to know he has money in that gambling account, how will they claim it if they dont have a password to the account or email? Does the owner of gambling site have a way of handling that or is it a free money for them to claim? Your response please.
I am referring to gambling sites like: bitsler, primedice, freebitco, cryptogames, etc

How can you died while you are gambling, does not make sense here? I believe if someone dying they should move every single of his coin to his own wallet and ask people to change it to their own fiat, people with such a stroke or may be heart attack might even have some safety on their coin first to every other things. And btw if you gambling online do you even let other people about it?

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Quote from: xPPx on January 13, 2018, 12:10:30 PM

With NitrogenSports, the money stays in the account. I have a referral that has 0.4999BTC sitting in his account for months. Zero bets...

Pretty sure the rules say the funds are kept for 2 or 3 years usually.
But I think you are wrong about Nitrogen, the affiliate section tells you the total amount deposited but it does not tell you if the funds have been withdrawn or not (or correct me if I am wrong).

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Quote from: investerS on January 12, 2018, 04:03:23 AM

I have been thinking of a question but have not got a suitable answer, in case a gambler or player who has big money in his account dies, what happens to his money? If the family eventually get to know he has money in that gambling account, how will they claim it if they dont have a password to the account or email? Does the owner of gambling site have a way of handling that or is it a free money for them to claim? Your response please.
I am referring to gambling sites like: bitsler, primedice, freebitco, cryptogames, etc

Interesting scenario! but I think there has to be a policy regarding this on every gambling site.

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Unfortunately, I believe that the money will be stuck inside the user's account. No one can give you something that does not belong to you. And even if they find out that his family want to get the money, it is not guaranteed that the user wanted the money to be given to his family in the first place.

Moreover, the user should always withdraw the money in case something bad happens to him, and then he stores his money in a safe place. I think that is a good option for him.

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what if your in prison for 5 years. will your balance be untouched when you get out on parole?

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With NitrogenSports, the money stays in the account. I have a referral that has 0.4999BTC sitting in his account for months. Zero bets...

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Quote from: audaciousbeing on January 13, 2018, 10:26:42 AM

Welcome to the world of crypto where anonymity is sacred especially when it comes to gambling. Its not a fiat gambling site where you fill your details and even next of kin details in case something happen to you. Here the individual is who is important and no one else.

You're wrong.Here Money is more important than anything else.Everything else is secondary.Details are filled here as well,just to make sure the money is taken/given to the right individuals.

Quote from: audaciousbeing on January 13, 2018, 10:26:42 AM

In the case of death, its the same thing as someone dying with a sizeable amount of bitcoin in his wallet no matter how big it worth, if he unfortunately did not tell anyone his password, wallet keys etc. its simply the case of a hen faced with a bottle full of grains. Without those things, it will be there forever.

Don't think you have access to the private keys stored on any of the gambling websites.Another reason why they shouldn't be used as a wallet.

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Quote from: investerS on January 12, 2018, 04:03:23 AM

I have been thinking of a question but have not got a suitable answer, in case a gambler or player who has big money in his account dies, what happens to his money? If the family eventually get to know he has money in that gambling account, how will they claim it if they dont have a password to the account or email? Does the owner of gambling site have a way of handling that or is it a free money for them to claim? Your response please.
I am referring to gambling sites like: bitsler, primedice, freebitco, cryptogames, etc

Welcome to the world of crypto where anonymity is sacred especially when it comes to gambling. Its not a fiat gambling site where you fill your details and even next of kin details in case something happen to you. Here the individual is who is important and no one else.

In the case of death, its the same thing as someone dying with a sizeable amount of bitcoin in his wallet no matter how big it worth, if he unfortunately did not tell anyone his password, wallet keys etc. its simply the case of a hen faced with a bottle full of grains. Without those things, it will be there forever.

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Quote from: veleten on January 12, 2018, 10:59:34 AM

Quote from: investerS on January 12, 2018, 04:03:23 AM

I have been thinking of a question but have not got a suitable answer, in case a gambler or player who has big money in his account dies, what happens to his money? If the family eventually get to know he has money in that gambling account, how will they claim it if they dont have a password to the account or email? Does the owner of gambling site have a way of handling that or is it a free money for them to claim? Your response please.
I am referring to gambling sites like: bitsler, primedice, freebitco, cryptogames, etc

certainly it is free money for the site
how do they know that the family member of an anonymous player is actually his relative
or who the hell was that player at all if some even do not have email registered
so if you have some big coins at one of the dice sites,better do not die

That's more like it, because all the casinos cited by OP are based on cryptocurrencies and most people that patronizes this type of casinos are mostly unwilling to share even their real email addresses, making it harder to identify the real owner of an account even if the house be willing to cooperate. To forestall all those hiccups, it should get to a point where a player starts to keep traces for their next of kin just in case, but the best bet is probably to never turn a casino into a bank.

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