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December 14, 2023, 02:36:34 PM
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I no know if nah only me dey hear say them wan scatter Rivers State House of assembly. I dey hear now say as at time of writing, bulldozers dey the Rivers State House of assembly dey scatter the building and I dey wonder why this thing dey happen. The last time we hear such news about that place, we know say nah fire catch the building and as e be, dem dey scatter am and I dey ask whether as nah government property, them no suppose give update to the public? Or the incumbent Governor dey aware of this thing wey dey shele so? I no understand o.
According to the government dem say the fire incident wey been happen for the house of assembly expert advice the government say the building is now not good for people to stay inside , and this something that needs to be handled very fast.  You see all this talks na just excuse wey the rivers state government they use cover up. The demolition of the building is more of politics , which we know some days ago majority of the house defect to the winning party.
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I no know if nah only me dey hear say them wan scatter Rivers State House of assembly. I dey hear now say as at time of writing, bulldozers dey the Rivers State House of assembly dey scatter the building and I dey wonder why this thing dey happen. The last time we hear such news about that place, we know say nah fire catch the building and as e be, dem dey scatter am and I dey ask whether as nah government property, them no suppose give update to the public? Or the incumbent Governor dey aware of this thing wey dey shele so? I no understand o.

Politics for this our contri no be wetin person wey get BP suppose follow, as them dey do their thing, we don dy hear all the kata kata wey them dy do but if nah where them go enter go enjoy smile and share money you no go hear am.
I hear the news but I no too put interest becos na wetin me I expect after that crazy protest, this one nah just to show say the state no be one governor dy run am, we get 2 in 1 governor like this.
If this current governor no wan play to the tune of the past governor nah so problem go dy happen for the state and all these things nah to let Mr SIM know say him suppose obey the last command if not nah to remove am from that sit.
Today nah house of assembly tomorrow fit be government house so make we dy watch and see.
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 I no know if nah only me dey hear say them wan scatter Rivers State House of assembly. I dey hear now say as at time of writing, bulldozers dey the Rivers State House of assembly dey scatter the building and I dey wonder why this thing dey happen. The last time we hear such news about that place, we know say nah fire catch the building and as e be, dem dey scatter am and I dey ask whether as nah government property, them no suppose give update to the public? Or the incumbent Governor dey aware of this thing wey dey shele so? I no understand o.
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Wetin you talk na true, this thing dey common for everywhere na why anytime them wan leave the seat them dey like put their brother or godson. But sometimes I like this godfatherism because na who get godfather go enjoy the benefit just like if you get godfather wey be governor at least you sef go benefit, but in this case of wike and Joseph Fubara fight, many reasons fit dey but as we no know the cause make we no just dey follow all this bloggers dey predict for me Wike never come out talk, Fubara never come out talk the issue but every body dey suspect say na oppression, wike has ruled river state for eight good years and at a point I called Wike the best governor in Nigeria, bro, the guy dey do project like ehh Wike really try for river state most especially the capital so wetin be the oppression for? Wetin wike dey tell am to do wey he no wan do? Although some people like to do there own things there own way regardless of anyone.
Firstly this thing dey common for Nigeria and e good make godson obey he godfather. Wike for no just choose Fubara if he no agree to the terms and condition, If not of Wike I no sure say Fubara for dey that seat so since he agreed to what Wike said he should bear it rather than fighting the one that gave him the power. All this one na why Nigeria go dey backward, this one no be lie ooh even my state dey suffer from this nonsense wey them call godfathrism and godson, anything godfather talk godson go listen. Fubara should just obey rather than causing chaos in the state
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You see that sense of entitlement from the people that feels that they made you whatever you are eh! Nothing pain me pass that thing. People need to understand that life is in phases and at certain phase, you will need others to get to your desired destination just like they also became something through other people.

The case between sim and Oga Wike na one whenever I see people analysing it, it annoys me to my bone. Before Wike became the governor of the state, Amaechi was there and others also assisted him before he won the election as the governor. While he was the governor, if the truth is to be told,  you will know that he was a serious dictator and I doubt he was loyal to any existing structure or past leader and so it make me laugh when I see him expecting loyalty from another person.

He should understand that he has served the state well to the best of his knowledge and should give sim his own chance to give to the state whatever is plan his
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When you have a godfather in this country just forget all your problems are already solve and it is very very crazy when it comes to the time of politics in country if you want to context for any post for this country you just make sure that you have one big politician and you will definately win the post you context for.
The extent to which you can go depends on the level of the godfather o. He must be someone that have capacity, someone that can fix things for you and who will be willing to go dirty to make things align for you. Godfatherism is seen in everything, even in the ministries, educational sector, religious institutions.  There is this popular saying: "follow who know road", that is a way of glorifying godfatherism.

It may not actually be a Nigerian thing because in the formal world, they call it mentorship. It is believed that when you have a mentor, you grow faster in your career and in life generally because he will be like a guide to you. Unfortunately,  the Nigerian context added some modifications to make it cult-like where the mentee is sometimes bounded by oath, this is where the problems start. This practice also add a kind of master-slave relationship to the entire thing thereby making it look discouraging to keeping a mentor especially in politics.
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 This matter with Wike and Fubara really tie wrapper I no lie and according to news, the ex Governor tok say time dey come wey e go give full explanation to d issue and to me o, of e no fit give explanation now, e no go come dey necessary again. I read where Wike dey para say Fubara wan shake the political structure of the PDP and that nah something e no fit let to happen.
 So many people dey say Fubara for no be governor if not for Wike but does that mean that nah Wike go get the final say? This structure wey Wike dey claim say nah PDP own, nah him form am or nah to dey in control dey hungry am
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The problem with the supposed godfathers is that they fail to understand that their boys are humans and should also have opinion. How can a governor of a state like Rivers not have a single opinion when if the state fails he will receive the blame and vice versa. By law, he is the chief security officer as well as chief executive officer of the state... it will be wrong for one man somewhere to decide who he gives contract, who visits him, who he talks to and when he should go out. Being a godfather requires you relaxing and watching your boys deliver while consulting you once in a while to seek guidance and opinion.

We know the Wike played in the election of SIM, we know he made him the governor but that is not enough reason he has to choke SIM that much. Allow the governor to breath abeg... you don serve 8 years so make the young man put things in place and give you the normal returns and regards you deserve. Being a godfather comes with sense!


When you have a godfather in this country just forget all your problems are already solve and it is very very crazy when it comes to the time of politics in country if you want to context for any post for this country you just make sure that you have one big politician and you will definately win the post you context for.
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Godfatherism has always been a problem in this country, just imagine the immediate past Governor telling people that he would not allow his political structure to be rooted out immediately, he has forgotten that, the state he ruled for 8years doesn't work that way, it was done to other people no matter how strong they thought they were, this state does not accommodate total control by the past Governors, but let's come to reality when a governor dips his hands into the state fund to sponsor whoever he has ordained to succeed him, this statement should be expected, we wake up in the morning to hear that impeachment process is on the ground, the reason being that, the present governor is no longer playing along or adhering strictly to the instructions coming from his perceived oga as they call him, it is well, how I wish this will change, but the situation itself is helpless.
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My own be say make person no ever enter agreement wey you know say you no fit fulfill. Shey before Wike pick Fubara as his successor him give am terms and conditions wey Oga SIM agree to abide? This kind thing dey tire person. Me personally I no go happy say somebody dey arrogant for person wey make am. Wike is just protecting his investment here to cut the long story short. E good make everything happen like this make people dey learn. This is not just about Wike and Fubara, it should be applicable in all aspects of life. Don’t go into an agreement you can’t fulfill because na scam you want to do. Same scam we dey try avoid for this crypto space. After some people go dey talk say na only bitcoin wey scam dey. Sim should be prosecuted for trying to scam Wike and breach of contractual agreements. Well I no get too much to say, but some of una wey dey happy say oga Sim dey do better thing, if e happen to you make you happy ooo. Just imagine say someone you brought to limelight come dey bring your leg out. Or you got scammed in bitcoin how you go feel? Na the same pain Wike dey feel right now.
In nutshell make we dey try honor agreements and we shouldn’t support bad things because it’s happening to another person.
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Godfatherism show face well well for government systems way dey corrupt and their way no too pure. Wetin dey cause am most times be say the aspirants know say he no merit the position he dey aspire for and he no too sure about him voters so he need serious backing from one OG. Why I no fit put mouth for this case way dey happen for rivers state na say I no know the kind agreement the Governor and Wike been get during elections. Everybody know say na wike single-handedly win the election for SIM, we no hear SIM voice throughout his campaigns which make many of us feel like say he go just be puppet for show but today he don show him true color. I know say him and him oga go still settle na politics dem dey play.
I agree with this yarn you drop for here. For politics, you fit dey confused as to who dey right and who dey wrong. Some factions go support wetin Wike do unto say he just dey collect wetin dey due am but I wan ask o; you feel say even those wey merit the position no need the Godfather unto say them get all the qualities?
 Wetin SIM do no make sense to me because e just be like say e dey keep quiet so e fit get wetin e dey find them as e don get am e show him true color. To me I no go call am wisdom, nah cowardly act because Wike no gree let am breath or drink water drop cup.
For one news I read, Wike come out dey tok say e no demand anything from Sim o, and I'm beginning to wonder why him come dey call for him impeachment if uncle never fall him law?
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I know say him and him oga go still settle na politics dem dey play.
Nah the only explanation to all this things be that. But how long them go dey use Rivers State as their playground?
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Godfatherism show face well well for government systems way dey corrupt and their way no too pure. Wetin dey cause am most times be say the aspirants know say he no merit the position he dey aspire for and he no too sure about him voters so he need serious backing from one OG. Why I no fit put mouth for this case way dey happen for rivers state na say I no know the kind agreement the Governor and Wike been get during elections. Everybody know say na wike single-handedly win the election for SIM, we no hear SIM voice throughout his campaigns which make many of us feel like say he go just be puppet for show but today he don show him true color. I know say him and him oga go still settle na politics dem dey play.
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By right, godfatherism is meant to be a strength to the godson positively and not an oppression, but the so-called Wike is just oppressing the governor; does he not know that he is not the governor again despite being the godfather and helping the governor enter that seat? It's just really unfair how some human beings become greedy to the core. A godfather is supposed to guide the son, allow him to explore, and prevent harm if necessary. The bitter truth is that politics is a dirty game in Nigeria, although not just there but in some other places. Like Zimbabwe and Robert Mugabe, who was president for 37 years. That's all greed, and it's not meant to be so. In my opinion, if it's possible, we should allow Siminilaye (as the OP said) to exercise his position as he pleased; it's not going to be easy trying to impeach him because he definitely will fight back.
Before asking that Wike be his godfather, do you feel or think that Fubara had not known the kind of person he is? At the time he may have been glad for the character Wike possessed; strong, dominant and possessive. I mean who can stand in the way of Wike and what he wants right? Fast forward to him being the governor because Wike has fulfilled his own end of the bargain and Fubara wants to play smart?
My guy, for politics, you gats dey ready say nah jungle you dey. So it's either you eat person or person eat you. I reason this tin wey dey go on and I feel say the blame dey two sides just as @cryptoprenuerbrainboss tok becos he (Fubara) sopoz know say nah so e go play out when Wike endorse amand instead of him coming out now to look like the victim of foul play, e sopoz quietly settle him Godfather, because the truth be say no mata how e wan do am, if e decide to drag the mata, not only will he lose his spot, e go also close other doors wey go help since Wike get better influence.
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By right, godfatherism is meant to be a strength to the godson positively and not an oppression, but the so-called Wike is just oppressing the governor; does he not know that he is not the governor again despite being the godfather and helping the governor enter that seat? It's just really unfair how some human beings become greedy to the core. A godfather is supposed to guide the son, allow him to explore, and prevent harm if necessary. The bitter truth is that politics is a dirty game in Nigeria, although not just there but in some other places. Like Zimbabwe and Robert Mugabe, who was president for 37 years. That's all greed, and it's not meant to be so. In my opinion, if it's possible, we should allow Siminilaye (as the OP said) to exercise his position as he pleased; it's not going to be easy trying to impeach him because he definitely will fight back.
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The result of him disobedience; Wike don put call to impeach am and nah the mata we dey try to settle like dis. E no get how e wan be, once you becomegodson to these overbearing Godfathers, just prepare to be a puppet and I come dey ask, e sopoz be like this? For how long wey we go dey need a certain approval or push before we get to certain pedestal for life? How una see this mata, is Fubara sopoz to fight for his freedom or e just dey raise dust wey go still settle after Wike don settle the right pipo?

The way I see wetin play out na two ways, to begin with I go say wike dey at fault then I go also say fubara also dey at fault. Wetin fubara been dey expect when him accept to be the godson of wike, you think say without wike fubara for fit win that election. Who know fubara before wike endorse am and use all the illegal means take put am for seat. If you aren't going to be loyal, don't accept the deal to begin with because wike dey very right at wetin him dey do when you look am from the point of business and loyalty which is what they have all turned our politics to but morally wetin wike dey do no good because it'll be hindering the growth of the state and if him love us as him talk make him focus for Abuja leave Rivers state alone. Rivers state can't have a godfather, I been dey think say wike go fit do Jagaban for Rivers but e dun dey scatter already. Port Harcourt politicians can't be loyal and that has just been proven.

Lastly, the role of the minister, Nyesom Wike, is to give a listening hear to whatever arrangements the negotiators come with and allow peace to reign. He should also realize that the development of the state is at stake and it is practically not possible to impeach the governor as he now commands some powers and respect. Wike must also learn to give in to the decision of the negotiators and agree to whatever solutions they intend to proffer especially as it positively impart on the people of the state.

You dey forget say Jagaban comot seating governments from seat wey be say him no fit win common primary ticket for return governor. If wike wan pull down fubara him go fit do am because him get state and federal power. Wike na coded man oh, I sure say him get dirty on fubara before giving him dat ticket because na wetin him dey do from time. Wike is a political father and from this side wey we from, godfatherism will always be a norm. Even for oyinbo land dem get godfathers but their own na say their politicians dey help develop the place and not just stealing money into their pocket. When a state get better plans, the state go dey move forward like Lagos state irrespective of the godfatherism wey dey happen for the state. As fubara dun talk, this is a inhouse fight between father and son and I believe it'll be resolved soon.
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Good fatherism is a good thing cos the good sons rely on the wisdom of the mentor when faced with difficult situations. The only problem with Nigerian style of mentorship its that the so called mentors turns into dictators with time.
Lemme further settle on the case in rivers state, its a case of excess greed from Wike, who poses as the man of the people and secretly  oppresses them. He brought Fubara in quite alright, but his demands from him are beyond comprehension. From information I gathered through some political big boys, Wike is demanding a whooping 25% of the total allocation of the state while Fubara is agreeing to give him 10% going forward. You can never see these information in the media cos its classified.
If the above is true, then Wike is very wicked, selfish and doesn't want the progress of rivers state people. Upon all the money he has made for himself and is still making, he still wants to cripple his successor by leaving him with very little to execute his official duties. Its very sad that most governors don't perform well because of these entanglements with previous administration.
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Although the who news about the impeachment and other incidents surrounding it like the bombing of the state assembly complex and the shooting of the governor's envoy in an attempt to either shoot the governor or scare him off the power are still allegations pointing direct fingers at the former governor Wike who is now the minister of FCT.

What further makes the pointing of these accusing fingers fixated on Wike is not far from the reasons below.

1. It is a trajectory in the political history of River State where Godfatherism has always been a case between the predecessors and successors. Although, it is not Rivers state in isolation, it is a case that has been plaquing our democracy since from inception. As a foundation, before I come to Rivers, it has happened in Lagos in the case of Ambode who was to return to office for a second tenure but was truncated and given to another person, who seems to be more loyal to the godfather.

Another case was that of Adams Oshiomole and Godwin Obaseki, who was the voluntary Chairman of the Edo State Economic and Strategic Team and handled closely all the economic activities of the government. Because of how delicate that position was and the his performance in policies and other reforms, he became very close to his boss and was to later succeed him as the next Governor. Obaseki became the first Governor to be elected under the APC in the state through the Anointment of Oshiomole. Afterwards, he was to be controlled and micromanaged by the predecessor which caused them into chaos and the rift led the predecessor to be suspended in the party and subsequently, reduced popularity. This gave birth to the popular slogan "Edo no be Lagos".

Another one was in Ebonyi State between the governor and deputy governor. The governor, Elechi in Labour party never endorsed his deputy but the deputy, who later succeeded him as the governor, David Umahi ensured that the predecessor retired back to his farmland.

Similarly, it happened in Imo state when Rochas Okorocha anointed his son-in-law and tried to bring him to power but failed too. The same thing happened in Rivers state between the then Governor Rotimi Amaechi who brought his boy but failed ony for Wike to become his successor. And the list goes on.

So, ordinarily, when you see these incidents happen, a tussle and fight with an incumbent Governor, it is not far fetched to point accusing fingers to the predecessor.

2. Since the Rivers state crisis unfolded, with the case of the bombed state assembly complex and other cases, the past Governor, who is now the Minister of FCT, Wike, have not responded to calls from journalists and other media platforms to react to the incidents. Although he claimed in an interview with Channels that he would not interfere with the new government but there have been several news reading to his overbearing powers to install cabinets of the new Governor with or without his personal input. It is only natural to resolve that he is the masterplanner of the crisis since he has made himself unavailable to respond to these allegations leveled against him at this material time.

3. Another thing is that, the elder statesmen of Rivers state have traveled down to Abuja to meet with the Minister to iron out the differences they must have had with the incumbent Governor so that the rift can end amicably without further chaotic incidents. It is obvious that he is a key player in this, hence their move to meet and discuss with him.

4. The utterances coming from the governor further validates the notion that it's another incident of Godfatherism between him and his former boss. Wike single-handedly brought Fubara to power by campaigning for him across all the local government areas of the state as well as using the resources at his disposal to ensure Fubara emerged at the polls, so it is presumed to be a case of 'rub my back and I rub yours'. Now that Fubara have tasted the sweetness of power, he wants to be left alone to work for his people or run his government.

Will This Crisis Last-long or Be Short-lived?

The longevity of this Crisis will be dependent on the major actors in the resolution of this dispute.The Followers, The Elder Statesmen, The Incumbent Governor and The Minister of FCT.

The role of the followers is simply for them to stand with what is right and make their voices heard on it. Their clear interest and outcry to justice will speedy up the resolution of this dispute most especially as it will persuade the godfather to sheath his sword and let peace reign. Culminated in the followers include the Civil Society Organizations who should also put their words out there and ensure that they put pressure on the godfather to let peace reign.

The role of the Elder Statesmen is for them to hold on to the truth, gather the right information and approach the godfather with their stance in the case. Wike may be stubborn to follow their instructions but their level of composure and compulsion will help to pressurize Wike to let go of this fight. They also need to approach the president should their visit to Wike isn't honored as supposed, to mske sure Wike allows Fubara reign in his kingdom.

The role of the incumbent Governor is to stand for what is right and inform the negotiators or mediators of whatever commitments he had made to his boss before taking this seat. I am pretty sure there would be some covenants or commitments he must have made in terms of promises to follow his commands, he should let the negotiators eg. elder statesmen, know about it so they can find lasting solution to this problem.

Lastly, the role of the minister, Nyesom Wike, is to give a listening hear to whatever arrangements the negotiators come with and allow peace to reign. He should also realize that the development of the state is at stake and it is practically not possible to impeach the governor as he now commands some powers and respect. Wike must also learn to give in to the decision of the negotiators and agree to whatever solutions they intend to proffer especially as it positively impart on the people of the state.
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The problem with the supposed godfathers is that they fail to understand that their boys are humans and should also have opinion. How can a governor of a state like Rivers not have a single opinion when if the state fails he will receive the blame and vice versa. By law, he is the chief security officer as well as chief executive officer of the state... it will be wrong for one man somewhere to decide who he gives contract, who visits him, who he talks to and when he should go out. Being a godfather requires you relaxing and watching your boys deliver while consulting you once in a while to seek guidance and opinion.

We know the Wike played in the election of SIM, we know he made him the governor but that is not enough reason he has to choke SIM that much. Allow the governor to breath abeg... you don serve 8 years so make the young man put things in place and give you the normal returns and regards you deserve. Being a godfather comes with sense!

You are right to an extent about godfather allowing their subjects to have opinions of their own towards the development of the state but I want to let you understand that before a godfather agrees to support you to victory there are terms and conditions with which they both reached and agreed on after being elected so it is the duty of the elected to act in consonant with their agreement because that's the reason why the godfather supported them, instead of deviating from their agreement why didn't they decline to the godfather terms and conditions before they were elected like I don't know the perspective that you will see my view but let be realistic, agreement is agreement.

If the governor knew that he may not meet up the conditions of the godfather then he would have declined their support in the first place before being elected so this are the consequences that occur when we jeopardize our political system to godfatherism
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God Fatherism is something that has been their in Nigeria political system for a longtime,  any leader whose tenure is over would want to bring someone that us loyal , can be manipulated. This keeps on happening because the people in power were not choosen by citizens but got into power by selections from God fathers and I don't think this something that will be put to end because the law of Nigeria has really faded and  things are not done in the right way it is suppose to be done. Nigeria politics is so full of greed and selfish interests, I wish things get better for Nigeria.
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How una see this mata, is Fubara sopoz to fight for his freedom or e just dey raise dust wey go still settle after Wike don settle the right pipo?

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The issue of godfatherism na one major problem wey we get for this we country, and a problem that can never be avoided in Nigerian politics inasmuch as personal greed and the need to keep embezzling pubic funds is placed as our politicians number one priority. Because Sim Fubara is not the first Governor to be appointed & sworn into seat through the help of a Godfather figure, and will definitely  be the last, as such act is bound to repeat itself again and again, just like we have in the case of Lagos state whereby Tinubu is the Emperor and King of King in Lagos, and I think that was the exact thing Wike was trying to replicate such here in Rivers, but it seems our kind hearted Governor Sim Fubara who was a civil servant, who rose through all the ranks of Civil Service, and understood the importance of carrying everybody along, unlike his master Wike who never regarded Civil servants, but instead focus on building fly-overs upon Fly-overs, while retirees never got paid their gratuity all through his 8 years in office. So to me, Governor Sim Fubara should be given the full control & freedom to pilot the affairs of the state without external Godfather figures just like Wike ruled his complete 8 years with no external affairs, as Gov. Sim Fubara deserves some respect as the seating Governor and number one citizen of the state.
Wike dey prove say nah him put the guy for seat and e fit comot am all because of wetin? In a news were I read that the real reason for the impeachment call was because Sim has refused to remit #1bn monthly for over two months and e don look like say the governor wan bite the finger wey feed am. I for drop the link but them don comot am
E dey pain say since his inception into office, you rarely hear from him, e just dey like say nah Wike shadow him dey in. Like dis, Port Harcourt dey shake somehow but what if this fit be political move?
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