When great leaders meet in sicily there will be no migrants

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Quote from: criptix on May 28, 2017, 09:58:20 AM

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Agree. Border control was one of the issues that turned the election in favor of leavers. When ever you hear leavers complain, it's usually about the unruly immigrants who clash with the police.

OK... leavers won. But what is going to happen after that? Angela Merkel want the United Kingdom to provide freedom of movement to all the European Union citizens (including the asylum seekers).

Are they even allowed to do that? I mean, if the UK is no longer part of the union then they'd have to renegotiate agreements and I don't think those in UK would want asylum seekers coming in again.

Brexit is about east europeans, their number goes to 2 million or something of which 1 million are working.
UK has 110 k refugees of whom 38 k are syrians.
Thats less then 0.2% of the population.

Why are 3rd world people so uneducated Huh

I know there are plenty of Poles and other East Europeans in the UK. I was referring to the "refugees" since Sithara007 said "including asylum seekers". Again, I don't believe they can just force the Brits to accept more people, European or not.

BTW, you seem to be far more educated than every 3rd worlder here. Care to tell us where you're from? I'm assuming from your response that you were from the UK and just pissed off from people claiming to know much about your country.

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Quote from: joebrook on May 29, 2017, 01:10:53 AM

The EU seems to be controlled by Angela Merkel Anna she dictates what they all should be doing, and since they are all spineless leaders, they just follow her without a thought about what it will do to their own citizens.

Actually the defeat of Marine Le Pen was very disastrous for the future of the European Union, because she had the balls to stand up to the dictatorship of Merkel. Unfortunately, Merkel's pet poodle Macron won the elections and relegated France as a vassal state of Germany.

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Quote from: joebrook on May 29, 2017, 01:10:53 AM

The EU seems to be controlled by Angela Merkel Anna she dictates what they all should be doing, and since they are all spineless leaders, they just follow her without a thought about what it will do to their own citizens.

The fact is that in the light of recent events in Europe and also in the world where Angela Merkel was involved, the views on Germany's political stability and their influence changed very sharply. Angela Merkel and Start to surrender their positions.

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The EU seems to be controlled by Angela Merkel Anna she dictates what they all should be doing, and since they are all spineless leaders, they just follow her without a thought about what it will do to their own citizens.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on May 28, 2017, 12:34:14 PM

Allowing migrants was a leftist PR move that backfired. They wanted to play saviors and thought they can handle some refugees and Germany will have cheap work force, but no.
Migrants don't want to work. They want to eat and sleep for free, they want to rape, make bombs, and spread their religion.
Leftists are slowly getting it, they brought rabid dogs into their countries, and they'll have to do something to reduce their number before they eat all the rabbits and sheep Wink

Once they get in, they seldom get out. More than 80% of the "refugees" were single men. Just wait until they file applications for family reunification. Each one will be applying to bring their extended families to Germany. That will increase their population from the 1.2 million mark to 10-15 million.

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Allowing migrants was a leftist PR move that backfired. They wanted to play saviors and thought they can handle some refugees and Germany will have cheap work force, but no.
Migrants don't want to work. They want to eat and sleep for free, they want to rape, make bombs, and spread their religion.
Leftists are slowly getting it, they brought rabid dogs into their countries, and they'll have to do something to reduce their number before they eat all the rabbits and sheep Wink

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Quote from: merchantofzeny on May 28, 2017, 09:54:32 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 26, 2017, 11:56:28 AM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on May 26, 2017, 11:04:14 AM

Agree. Border control was one of the issues that turned the election in favor of leavers. When ever you hear leavers complain, it's usually about the unruly immigrants who clash with the police.

OK... leavers won. But what is going to happen after that? Angela Merkel want the United Kingdom to provide freedom of movement to all the European Union citizens (including the asylum seekers).

Are they even allowed to do that? I mean, if the UK is no longer part of the union then they'd have to renegotiate agreements and I don't think those in UK would want asylum seekers coming in again.

Brexit is about east europeans, their number goes to 2 million or something of which 1 million are working.
UK has 110 k refugees of whom 38 k are syrians.
Thats less then 0.2% of the population.

Why are 3rd world people so uneducated Huh

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 26, 2017, 11:56:28 AM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on May 26, 2017, 11:04:14 AM

Agree. Border control was one of the issues that turned the election in favor of leavers. When ever you hear leavers complain, it's usually about the unruly immigrants who clash with the police.

OK... leavers won. But what is going to happen after that? Angela Merkel want the United Kingdom to provide freedom of movement to all the European Union citizens (including the asylum seekers).

Are they even allowed to do that? I mean, if the UK is no longer part of the union then they'd have to renegotiate agreements and I don't think those in UK would want asylum seekers coming in again.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 26, 2017, 11:56:28 AM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on May 26, 2017, 11:04:14 AM

Agree. Border control was one of the issues that turned the election in favor of leavers. When ever you hear leavers complain, it's usually about the unruly immigrants who clash with the police.

OK... leavers won. But what is going to happen after that? Angela Merkel want the United Kingdom to provide freedom of movement to all the European Union citizens (including the asylum seekers).

UK can just enforce the pre-EU rules. Only citizens from certain countries will be allowed visa free. All others with valid passports can apply for tourist, business, immigration visas etc.

BTW, asylum seekers are not EU citizens. Merkel is saying what she wants them to be: voters aka 'citizens'.

People without valid passports should not be allowed into ANY country. This situation in Germany is insane.

Ethnic Germans should show some balls....

Feel free to visit germany and tell us your story afterwards.

Btw dont fall for weird conspiracy theories. For the german naturalisation process to start you have to atleast live 8 years in germany and have been granted permanent residence. The last one is quite difficult to get if you dont work.

Without being german you cannot vote and our ID system is centuries ahead of the US american one.

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Quote from: Lancusters on May 26, 2017, 12:13:41 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 26, 2017, 11:56:28 AM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on May 26, 2017, 11:04:14 AM

Agree. Border control was one of the issues that turned the election in favor of leavers. When ever you hear leavers complain, it's usually about the unruly immigrants who clash with the police.

OK... leavers won. But what is going to happen after that? Angela Merkel want the United Kingdom to provide freedom of movement to all the European Union citizens (including the asylum seekers).

Did you notice that in recent years has become less talking about crowds of migrant savages that freely moves around Europe. Angela Merkel has realized his mistake and migrants started to evict. They are given 5,000 euros and sent home. As for the German citizens then I see no problem if they travel without visas to the UK. Visa is a Convention which simply complicates life.

All this is a hogwash. Angela Merkel has not realized her mistake. The German federal elections are nearby, and therefore she want to attract some of the centrist and right-wing votes.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 26, 2017, 11:56:28 AM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on May 26, 2017, 11:04:14 AM

Agree. Border control was one of the issues that turned the election in favor of leavers. When ever you hear leavers complain, it's usually about the unruly immigrants who clash with the police.

OK... leavers won. But what is going to happen after that? Angela Merkel want the United Kingdom to provide freedom of movement to all the European Union citizens (including the asylum seekers).

Did you notice that in recent years has become less talking about crowds of migrant savages that freely moves around Europe. Angela Merkel has realized his mistake and migrants started to evict. They are given 5,000 euros and sent home. As for the German citizens then I see no problem if they travel without visas to the UK. Visa is a Convention which simply complicates life.

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Quote from: merchantofzeny on May 26, 2017, 11:04:14 AM

Agree. Border control was one of the issues that turned the election in favor of leavers. When ever you hear leavers complain, it's usually about the unruly immigrants who clash with the police.

OK... leavers won. But what is going to happen after that? Angela Merkel want the United Kingdom to provide freedom of movement to all the European Union citizens (including the asylum seekers).

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Quote from: matuson on May 25, 2017, 08:03:13 AM

If you do not stop the flow of migrants then this will lead to the collapse of the EU. Now many leaders of the countries entering the EU is already aware and will not allow them on their territory. If EU leaders do not want the collapse they need to protect their borders from this wild Horde.

You are right about the migrant influx. The European Union will start slowly disintegrating, if the immigration policy is not changed. Even the recent Brexit occurred due to the immigration fiasco. Without the refugee influx, the United Kingdom would have stayed as a part of the European Union. Even now, it is not too late to change the policies.

Agree. Border control was one of the issues that turned the election in favor of leavers. When ever you hear leavers complain, it's usually about the unruly immigrants who clash with the police.

All these events are eerily reminiscent of the fall of Rome.

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Quote from: matuson on May 25, 2017, 08:03:13 AM

If you do not stop the flow of migrants then this will lead to the collapse of the EU. Now many leaders of the countries entering the EU is already aware and will not allow them on their territory. If EU leaders do not want the collapse they need to protect their borders from this wild Horde.

Migrants in the beginning is good but later on it will cause some problems on the economy as well the society as a whole. But it also depends on what kind of race that will migrate. The problem with EU is that the migrants were coming from the Arab Countries which if uncontrolled will bring a political and societal change in their country. The Europeans love birth control while the muslims love propagation after many years the muslim population will have a population explosion and they will become the majority in Europe. When that time comes the political leaders will be muslim and the EU will become a muslim state.

Not only are they quick to reproduce, they're quite known for not assimilating with host countries. How often do you hear Europeans complaining about East and Southeast Asian immigrants? When those migrate there, they usually study or work, not like these that just live off welfare.

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Quote from: matuson on May 25, 2017, 08:03:13 AM

If you do not stop the flow of migrants then this will lead to the collapse of the EU. Now many leaders of the countries entering the EU is already aware and will not allow them on their territory. If EU leaders do not want the collapse they need to protect their borders from this wild Horde.

Migrants in the beginning is good but later on it will cause some problems on the economy as well the society as a whole. But it also depends on what kind of race that will migrate. The problem with EU is that the migrants were coming from the Arab Countries which if uncontrolled will bring a political and societal change in their country. The Europeans love birth control while the muslims love propagation after many years the muslim population will have a population explosion and they will become the majority in Europe. When that time comes the political leaders will be muslim and the EU will become a muslim state.

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Quote from: matuson on May 25, 2017, 08:03:13 AM

If you do not stop the flow of migrants then this will lead to the collapse of the EU. Now many leaders of the countries entering the EU is already aware and will not allow them on their territory. If EU leaders do not want the collapse they need to protect their borders from this wild Horde.

You are right about the migrant influx. The European Union will start slowly disintegrating, if the immigration policy is not changed. Even the recent Brexit occurred due to the immigration fiasco. Without the refugee influx, the United Kingdom would have stayed as a part of the European Union. Even now, it is not too late to change the policies.

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This one maybe?

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Quote from: Masha Sha on May 25, 2017, 09:40:29 AM

Quote from: matrix zion on May 25, 2017, 09:29:12 AM

Ahahah ^^

Well they're not crazy, they don't want to take risks while you can take them :p

But more seriously it doesn't prove you can actually control migrants.
Here the control is set up on a very small area, of course it's much easier to do it.
Try to do the same thing nationwide just for fun... You won't be able to do shit.

Please...

Oh sorry! It would be really easy!
I mean your example is not at all an extreme one from the worst period in humanity ever xD

I didn't say it wouldn't be possible, I said that you wouldn't be able to do it. Simply because it would mean mobilizing your entire country just for that.

And it's important to note two things:
-the wall you show wouldn't be enough you would need 5 times this thing because it would have to do whole europe tour
-this wall wasn't at all 100% effective, the goal wasn't to prevent anyone to cross but to be sure no army would be able to foot land on a beach without nazis knowing it.

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Quote from: matrix zion on May 25, 2017, 09:29:12 AM

Ahahah ^^

Well they're not crazy, they don't want to take risks while you can take them :p

But more seriously it doesn't prove you can actually control migrants.
Here the control is set up on a very small area, of course it's much easier to do it.
Try to do the same thing nationwide just for fun... You won't be able to do shit.

Please... even harder on land

Quote from: merchantofzeny on May 25, 2017, 09:34:22 AM

The only reason they can ignore this crisis is unlike the locals, they don't have to live with these people.

It's so true!! And bonus they get paid and lifetime security for that... parasites.

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The only reason they can ignore this crisis is unlike the locals, they don't have to live with these people.

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Ahahah ^^

Well they're not crazy, they don't want to take risks while you can take them :p

But more seriously it doesn't prove you can actually control migrants.
Here the control is set up on a very small area, of course it's much easier to do it.
Try to do the same thing nationwide just for fun... You won't be able to do shit.

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