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legendary
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August 15, 2015, 05:10:50 PM
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Linden Lab will likely never use Bitcoin in-game because of compliance issues.
They could concidder to use Bitcoin to let people buy Linden$.

Second Life has a huge community and it's not too hard to earn some extra pocketmoney. You do need a fast computer to really enjoy playing.
Lag is the main issue and perhaps the reason that it hasn't grown much larger. Hopefully in future there will be something alike that doesn't have all
those problems. When I first played I thought this is the future of the whole internet, to walk around in a 3d space instead of browsing 2d flat pages with little interactivity.
The internet has a lot of growing to do.

Don't use Virwox, they are robbing you with insane fee's. The costs will be over 10% from Paypal to Bitcoin.
hero member
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Hi guys!

Recently I've thought about Second Life. Second Life was one of the first sites, if not the first to introduce the concept of virtual currency.

They have their own centralized currency, the Linden Dollar.

For now I know that it is not possible to buy Lindens with bitcoin through the 2nd life site, but people have been using Wirvox exchange to do just that:

https://community.secondlife.com/t5/Merchants/bitcoins-to-lindens/td-p/2550854

So my guess is, When is Second Life Linden) starting to use Bitcoin?

Is there any mention from Linden about this?

I don't really know. It's probably, as always, an ego fight. They want their own currency. At least you can exchange it for Second Life Linden Dollar tho, too bad the fees are insane.
Wirwox is to blame.
I used to exchange there. Their fees are so high that if you try to buy bitcoin through paysafecard, you will get something close to 70% of the fiat you paid in bitcoin. It's stealing money.
hero member
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I don't know if they will accept it or not, but i have to say that i'm not anticipating it. From what i can tell, second life's linden dollars are a centralized currency,
and as such do not fall under any outer influences nor regulation. In another words , they can do whatever they want with it, and sell and create as much as they want,
so why would anyone want to sell limited edition bitcoin for something centralized and unlimited ?

hero member
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I remember trying second life once a couple of times, then I stopped bothering and forgot why, then more recently I came back to it again. There are way too many restrictions on that 'game' and it does revolve entirely it's in game currency being milked as much as possible. For instance, if you want to import a 3D Model into the game which is actually a very simple process by itself you unfortunately have to go and set up a premium account, here's the catch though they only take credit cards and no, I'm not talking about only taking mastercards I mean, they literally only take credit cards, no debit cards and of course no Bitcoin.

So what they're doing seems extremely dodgy to me and it's also limtiing people from uploading loads of stuff to Second Life and messing around in the universe as much as possible, if the signup process wasn't so ridiculous there would be loads of different second life worlds out there and models, but nope, they're fucking people around the same way all these micro-transaction infested games do.

Honestly, you'd be better off screwing around in GMod, at least on there you have your own dedicated servers and can import models easily this also reinforces my opinion that you just shouldn't have real curreny connected to computer games.

I never liked that game. It looks so goofy and generally cheap, it just makes no sense. Aesthetically it's a mess. If you want to waste some time on videogames there are certainty much better options.
hero member
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Nobody wants Bitcoin.  The 2013 pump was all Willy Bot (MtGox) and then public personalities who were saying Bitcoin would be $10,000 by Christmas..

Bitcoin's been out since 2009 January, AFAIK, and the Federal Reserve said only 100,000 are using it.  CoinBase claims they have millions of users but even Alexa Rank says more people are using Bitcointalk than CoinBase and there's clearly not millions of people posting on here...

Before we say "Bitcoin is MySpace", MySpace had like 50+ million users.  Even Alta Vista had more users than Bitcoin.  Even Beta Max sold like 18 million machines and yet Bitcoin can't even get more than 100,000 users..

Hell yeah! Let's take the kid's advice and use a competing company's stats as if they are real. /s
legendary
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I remember trying second life once a couple of times, then I stopped bothering and forgot why, then more recently I came back to it again. There are way too many restrictions on that 'game' and it does revolve entirely it's in game currency being milked as much as possible. For instance, if you want to import a 3D Model into the game which is actually a very simple process by itself you unfortunately have to go and set up a premium account, here's the catch though they only take credit cards and no, I'm not talking about only taking mastercards I mean, they literally only take credit cards, no debit cards and of course no Bitcoin.

So what they're doing seems extremely dodgy to me and it's also limtiing people from uploading loads of stuff to Second Life and messing around in the universe as much as possible, if the signup process wasn't so ridiculous there would be loads of different second life worlds out there and models, but nope, they're fucking people around the same way all these micro-transaction infested games do.

Honestly, you'd be better off screwing around in GMod, at least on there you have your own dedicated servers and can import models easily this also reinforces my opinion that you just shouldn't have real curreny connected to computer games.
sr. member
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Yeah, users need to go to virwox to exchange linden for BTC
Linden labs wants total control over their linden dollars and the system works so why change?

Besides, only about 20 people use second life anymore

I remember playing secondlife years ago....it was actually pretty fun IIRC, but i didnt think many people would still be playing it in 2015.

I guess they have a nice loyal user base still playing, which for them is good.
Maybe i should see if my old acct is still valid now that im starting to bore of playing GTAV online  Tongue
legendary
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Yeah I'm not sure why they would switch to Bitcoin since they have their own currency already.
Would be a silly move to be honest.
legendary
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second life has its own money, linden dollar, then I dont think it need to use bitcoin there. Bitcoin was used to change fiat as payment tool in our real life, not in virtual life imo. Anyway I never play second life, why we need to live in virtual world? Roll Eyes

You know, if you are using VirWox service, you can easily exchange your BTC funds through ''linden dollar'' to paypal and cash out.
Otherwise is not easy to transfer bitcoin funds to paypal, so I know that many bitcoin users like VirWox because of this possibility.
Of course, their exchange fees are very high but you can't have everything Smiley


Well I think there are other ways to cash out bitcoin through paypal, then we dont need to use linden dollar if we want to cashout bitcoin. But actually it depends on the second life players, if they feel that as a useful thing, its okay then Smiley
full member
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Nobody wants Bitcoin.  The 2013 pump was all Willy Bot (MtGox) and then public personalities who were saying Bitcoin would be $10,000 by Christmas..

Bitcoin's been out since 2009 January, AFAIK, and the Federal Reserve said only 100,000 are using it.  CoinBase claims they have millions of users but even Alexa Rank says more people are using Bitcointalk than CoinBase and there's clearly not millions of people posting on here...

Before we say "Bitcoin is MySpace", MySpace had like 50+ million users.  Even Alta Vista had more users than Bitcoin.  Even Beta Max sold like 18 million machines and yet Bitcoin can't even get more than 100,000 users..


legendary
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I tried Second Life, but my internet connection at the time was very bad, so it was not a good experience. They have a very healthy virtual economy going there, and it's currency is very well established, so I doubt if they would be willing to switch to something new.

It would be less of a inconvenience if they do, because no conversion is needed when the use BTC to buy products in the real world. ^hmf^
legendary
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Yeah, users need to go to virwox to exchange linden for BTC
Linden labs wants total control over their linden dollars and the system works so why change?

Besides, only about 20 people use second life anymore

Well, that's where you're wrong! And Alexa says otherwise too:



Secondlife is still growing and the new platform (where virtual reality will also be an integrant part) will certainly attract a lot of new people.

It's not like that they're not the leading company in this type of role play and all...

And... so I do see how it is important for bitcoin to get to that niche!
I don't have any actual number statistics on secondlife.com, but even if the site's ranking continues to increase, doesn't it only mean that more people are visiting the site, not necessarily that there are more people using the application?

There has to be more emphasis on the actual users rather than the people that merely visit the site.
legendary
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Yeah, users need to go to virwox to exchange linden for BTC
Linden labs wants total control over their linden dollars and the system works so why change?

Besides, only about 20 people use second life anymore

Well, that's where you're wrong! And Alexa says otherwise too:



Secondlife is still growing and the new platform (where virtual reality will also be an integrant part) will certainly attract a lot of new people.

It's not like that they're not the leading company in this type of role play and all...

And... so I do see how it is important for bitcoin to get to that niche!
legendary
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Ad maiora!
Yeah, users need to go to virwox to exchange linden for BTC
Linden labs wants total control over their linden dollars and the system works so why change?

Besides, only about 20 people use second life anymore
hero member
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I think that adopting Bitcoin as the currency in games has a lot of potential. Using satoshis as a base, you could use it in games without risking a lot of money, and make it suitable to earn bitcoins in quests etc.

Second life would be a great start but also many other RPGs. Think WOW for instance with satoshis being the base coin  Grin
legendary
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second life has its own money, linden dollar, then I dont think it need to use bitcoin there. Bitcoin was used to change fiat as payment tool in our real life, not in virtual life imo. Anyway I never play second life, why we need to live in virtual world? Roll Eyes

You know, if you are using VirWox service, you can easily exchange your BTC funds through ''linden dollar'' to paypal and cash out.
Otherwise is not easy to transfer bitcoin funds to paypal, so I know that many bitcoin users like VirWox because of this possibility.
Of course, their exchange fees are very high but you can't have everything Smiley

sr. member
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I think there used to be an exchange that would exchange linden dollars for btc. Used to be the only way to buy btc with a credit card.
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Hi guys!

Recently I've thought about Second Life. Second Life was one of the first sites, if not the first to introduce the concept of virtual currency.

They have their own centralized currency, the Linden Dollar.

For now I know that it is not possible to buy Lindens with bitcoin through the 2nd life site, but people have been using Wirvox exchange to do just that:

https://community.secondlife.com/t5/Merchants/bitcoins-to-lindens/td-p/2550854

So my guess is, When is Second Life Linden) starting to use Bitcoin?

Is there any mention from Linden about this?

Don't think it'll ever happen. It would possibly destabilize their Linden dollar. I figure one in game currency is probably enough for them.

I'm waiting for 'No Mans Sky' to come out and hope that Bitcoin is enabled in that. Be great if it is! But I can't say I've heard any word that it's a possibility either.

I think gaming in general really needs to step up with integrating Bitcoin in-game.
legendary
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I see no point they will be using Bitcoin when they already have their own coin.
Why do we want to use bitcoin when we already have Dollars, Euros and hundreds of other 'coins'? Your logic is flawed.
sr. member
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I see no point they will be using Bitcoin when they already have their own coin.
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