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Quote from: Solosanz on November 16, 2024, 10:58:42 AM

That's true, but at least they should sent to the jail because they're intentionally creating and publicizing a fake video to trick people, it's a crime. If their winnings is true, they should able to prove if it was real and not staged.

We can't just ignore illegal thing posted in social medias, it is right to convince people to join our group for paying x money to get fake signal? when they were saying their all of their signals are valid?

If people report what they did, those people can get arrest and send it to the jail. Maybe the first thing that people can do is report to the social media so they can do something such as block or freeze the influencer account and need to clarify of what they did.

That is the danger of social media and if we can not be careful, we will be the next victim. They can get the next target because they can easily provoke other people to follow what they do. Many people still underestimate about that thing so we see that many of them get in a scam scheme.

Quote from: Kelward on November 28, 2024, 03:11:56 AM

Most gambling sites will use celebrities that have many followers to advertise them on social media, TV and billboards, to attract more people to choose their sites to gamble. I wouldn't really call it a trap, I'll rather see it as a marketing strategy to get more people to gamble with them, so it depends on every individual to gamble responsibly. It'll become a trap for people that gets carried away because their favorite celebrity is hyping a gambling site that they're obviously paid to do the job. If someone learns how gambling works, I don't think that there'll be any issues of being trapped that can arise. If you understand responsible gambling and reads the TOS of gambling sites, the issue of being trapped wouldn't occur.

That is because the casino wants to attract more attention from people out there especially those who active in their social media. If they can ask celebrities to help them promoting the casino, their fan will see that their idol support that casino. But those celebrities needs to be careful if they want to make a relationship to the casino and need to make sure that they are in the right casino. But for those watch the ads or video or else from their idol or influencer doesn't have to think seriously and consider that is the part of casino's promotion. People need to responsible with what they do and always research before they decide.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on November 28, 2024, 02:52:16 AM

I also had this impression in some bets that i was very confident in, but I don't believe there is a conspiracy to drastically manipulate the results. Still, I think sports betting is much less risky than games based on chance.

Maybe, but you will agree that in sports betting there is also a luck factor, the recent match between City and Feyenoord, where they missed the victory very unexpectedly, or Barcelona against Celta and there are many such cases. So in betting luck also matters, of course not as much as in slots, but it does. And if in the Barcelona match the odds were higher and they played away, which gave some doubts, then in the match with City I was almost sure that it would not be difficult for them to win, for me it was obvious and I did not place a bet only because the odds were very low.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 27, 2024, 10:37:57 PM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 16, 2024, 11:04:28 AM

But when it come to gambling in particular, our efforts without luck can still be useless, most especially when the game we are playing has everything to do with luck, like luck only based games.

All your effort goes down the drain if you're focusing on games that rely purely on luck. It's no-brainer, if a game is all about luck, the only way to win is to get lucky. And since no one can control luck, it’s not the smartest move to stick to those games. Unless, of course, you’ve got extra cash to throw away or you’re just playing for fun to relieve some stress.

What we’re talking here is about playing smart and using a real strategy to win. When I say "trap," I’m talking specifically about sports betting, where you’re picking between two sides.

Every casino game is based on luck. Games that are strategic and depend on your skills are games like chess but you'll never see them on casinos because it's easy to abuse these games. You can start playing chess against others but another person can use a computer or AI against you. Those who have the best computers and bots are going to win chess, so it's pointless to implement such a game in the casino.

There are rarely other P2P games added on casinos but slowly this is becoming an active topic. Btw even with P2P games, you depend on luck because there is no such thing as a skill-based p2p game and I explained why that is impossible to happen. So since you depend on luck, isn't it better to forget about creating strategies and play luck-based games purely with your luck?

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Quote from: iv4n on November 28, 2024, 03:13:44 AM

I too think the OP is talking about sports betting. We have mentioned something like this many times in sports betting threads, there are games that seem safe to bet on, as if the result is obvious... often the opposite happens and we lose that bet. But this is not always the case, sometimes obvious things happen. That's why it's a gamble, nothing is 101% certain, and nothing is impossible, surprises often happen.

I don’t think there is anything that is “obvious” even in sports betting where you can at least study the odds and decide if it actually reflects the current state of the team. These are athletes. Real life people who are almost just as unpredictable as machines. No matter how good an athlete is, it is totally possible that today is just not their day or someone else is just simply better than them. It happens but if it is an outlier, it doesn’t mean a lot for the athlete’s image.

Anyway, in live sports, anything can happen and nothing is ever obvious unless the match is rigged and fixed and you were given information beforehand.

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Quote from: Su-asa on October 29, 2024, 11:55:46 AM

I think you are definitely talking about sports betting, there are selections that are of a very low value, they can be very sure and captivating enough to get a lot of gamblers attention, these are part of their schemes and traps to lure you into making the wrong choices. Playing sports betting for a long time has taught me this. Just like you said when it's too obvious then it's definitely a trap. When it seems like that selection is too sure to pick the best thing for you to do is pick something random because that might be a way to escape the mind games of the bookies.

I too think the OP is talking about sports betting. We have mentioned something like this many times in sports betting threads, there are games that seem safe to bet on, as if the result is obvious... often the opposite happens and we lose that bet. But this is not always the case, sometimes obvious things happen. That's why it's a gamble, nothing is 101% certain, and nothing is impossible, surprises often happen.

One example of this happened two weeks ago in the Gosubetting Tippster Challenge. For most of us, Brighton vs City was a safe bet and our predictions were on City's side... City lost but two tipsters guessed it. So while most sometimes bet on the "safe" option, there are people who expect surprises. While some win others lose, and vice versa... it's always the same thing with gambling.

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Quote from: Zoomic on November 09, 2024, 12:24:04 PM

It's even worst when this advertisements are done by top celebrities and influencers the people trust so much. This people often assure their followers that the whole winning proccess is as easy as ABC.They do not also forget to promise bonuses just by using their promo codes and completing a few gambling sessions. People often get carried away with this easy-to-make money only to realise that it was a trap to make them gamble and even lose money.

Yes, I admit that can influence people easily to follow what celebrities and influencers did. People wants to get the winning like them so they will try to playing gambling so they can win. But that will not easy as they don't know when they can win but they will lose their money anytime. Their losses will be big especially if they can not stop themselves from keep playing gambling. That is why people must realize that if an offers too good to be true, they must not try following celebrities and influencers because the result will be different than those people. If they still want to playing gambling, they must have many things to prevents they getting deeper in gambling or avoids becoming addicted to gambling.

Most gambling sites will use celebrities that have many followers to advertise them on social media, TV and billboards, to attract more people to choose their sites to gamble. I wouldn't really call it a trap, I'll rather see it as a marketing strategy to get more people to gamble with them, so it depends on every individual to gamble responsibly. It'll become a trap for people that gets carried away because their favorite celebrity is hyping a gambling site that they're obviously paid to do the job. If someone learns how gambling works, I don't think that there'll be any issues of being trapped that can arise. If you understand responsible gambling and reads the TOS of gambling sites, the issue of being trapped wouldn't occur.

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Quote from: Su-asa on October 29, 2024, 11:55:46 AM

I think you are definitely talking about sports betting, there are selections that are of a very low value, they can be very sure and captivating enough to get a lot of gamblers attention, these are part of their schemes and traps to lure you into making the wrong choices. Playing sports betting for a long time has taught me this. Just like you said when it's too obvious then it's definitely a trap. When it seems like that selection is too sure to pick the best thing for you to do is pick something random because that might be a way to escape the mind games of the bookies.

I also had this impression in some bets that i was very confident in, but I don't believe there is a conspiracy to drastically manipulate the results. Still, I think sports betting is much less risky than games based on chance.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 16, 2024, 11:04:28 AM

But when it come to gambling in particular, our efforts without luck can still be useless, most especially when the game we are playing has everything to do with luck, like luck only based games.

All your effort goes down the drain if you're focusing on games that rely purely on luck. It's no-brainer, if a game is all about luck, the only way to win is to get lucky. And since no one can control luck, it’s not the smartest move to stick to those games. Unless, of course, you’ve got extra cash to throw away or you’re just playing for fun to relieve some stress.

What we’re talking here is about playing smart and using a real strategy to win. When I say "trap," I’m talking specifically about sports betting, where you’re picking between two sides.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 16, 2024, 11:04:28 AM

But when it come to gambling in particular, our efforts without luck can still be useless, most especially when the game we are playing has everything to do with luck, like luck only based games.
But all the same, we also can not tell when we are lucky or not until we put in the effort of going out or going online to play some games, then outcome will tell if our effort is profitable to us or a loss.

Well you are absolutely right, when it comes to doing things this way, things can practically turn out for the better in every way , for example when it comes to gambling it happens to me like you say , no matter how hard I try in the end what really influences is luck , of course you can't know strategies or anything like that, but if it's the right time you win, if not you lose, that's what influences all this , that's why when we are looking for Better ways to make money with the game it is to accept what happens, and above all take care of the money we are putting into the game.

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Quote from: Mahanton on November 10, 2024, 01:31:37 AM

Its true that there's no other that should really be blamed none other but ourselves and if you wont really be that careful or having that control then you are really that bound into disaster.

It is precise or the thing that many can not control, there are people who always go for what seems easier to do or something, but as far as I am concerned I could say that when opportunities like this present themselves you have to see all the focuses so as not to lose the way, it is very easy to lose, it is very easy for us to have losses, but it is very difficult to Generate good plays and above all it seems to me that in order to win it is necessary to make a great effort , regardless of the financial cience of the person this is a fact that for things to go well you have to make an effort.

Generally speaking, you are right, everything we do that has the potential to generate good result sure requires efforts from us, as now is not like the days when manner fell from heaven, this days, we work, put in a lot of effort to achieve great things.

But when it come to gambling in particular, our efforts without luck can still be useless, most especially when the game we are playing has everything to do with luck, like luck only based games.
But all the same, we also can not tell when we are lucky or not until we put in the effort of going out or going online to play some games, then outcome will tell if our effort is profitable to us or a loss.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 11, 2024, 08:21:08 PM

We should not blame those celebrities and influencers because that is our decision to follow them to playing gambling. We must know that the responsibility will be ours so we need to be careful with our decision. We can watch their video but we must know that winning on the gambling is not as easy as them because we don't know if their winning was set it up before or that is their lucky day or other reasons. Yes, everything will be back to us so when we lose control of ourselves, we will lose our money and that will be bigger if we chase or recover the lose money. We know that the promotion can be a trap for us so that is why we must take care of ourselves with right.

That's true, but at least they should sent to the jail because they're intentionally creating and publicizing a fake video to trick people, it's a crime. If their winnings is true, they should able to prove if it was real and not staged.

We can't just ignore illegal thing posted in social medias, it is right to convince people to join our group for paying x money to get fake signal? when they were saying their all of their signals are valid?

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Quote from: Mahanton on November 10, 2024, 01:31:37 AM

Its true that there's no other that should really be blamed none other but ourselves and if you wont really be that careful or having that control then you are really that bound into disaster.

It is precise or the thing that many can not control, there are people who always go for what seems easier to do or something, but as far as I am concerned I could say that when opportunities like this present themselves you have to see all the focuses so as not to lose the way, it is very easy to lose, it is very easy for us to have losses, but it is very difficult to Generate good plays and above all it seems to me that in order to win it is necessary to make a great effort , regardless of the financial cience of the person this is a fact that for things to go well you have to make an effort.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 10, 2024, 01:26:26 AM

That's why they will work with celebrities or famous influencers to make them more known and will make many new users register and play. But we also don't blame them, I mean all decisions are in our hands. What we need to understand is that we must be able to equip ourselves with the knowledge that there is a very big risk. When we realize that, it will make us more careful not to play excessively. Because as I said this will come back to ourselves, because it's useless to blame others when we can't control ourselves. They do something and get rewards, so we shouldn't have thoughts about something that is promotional in nature, because it can be arranged in such a way.

We should not blame those celebrities and influencers because that is our decision to follow them to playing gambling. We must know that the responsibility will be ours so we need to be careful with our decision. We can watch their video but we must know that winning on the gambling is not as easy as them because we don't know if their winning was set it up before or that is their lucky day or other reasons. Yes, everything will be back to us so when we lose control of ourselves, we will lose our money and that will be bigger if we chase or recover the lose money. We know that the promotion can be a trap for us so that is why we must take care of ourselves with right.

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Quote from: Zoomic on November 09, 2024, 12:24:04 PM

It's even worst when this advertisements are done by top celebrities and influencers the people trust so much. This people often assure their followers that the whole winning proccess is as easy as ABC.They do not also forget to promise bonuses just by using their promo codes and completing a few gambling sessions. People often get carried away with this easy-to-make money only to realise that it was a trap to make them gamble and even lose money.

Yes, I admit that can influence people easily to follow what celebrities and influencers did. People wants to get the winning like them so they will try to playing gambling so they can win. But that will not easy as they don't know when they can win but they will lose their money anytime. Their losses will be big especially if they can not stop themselves from keep playing gambling. That is why people must realize that if an offers too good to be true, they must not try following celebrities and influencers because the result will be different than those people. If they still want to playing gambling, they must have many things to prevents they getting deeper in gambling or avoids becoming addicted to gambling.

That's why they will work with celebrities or famous influencers to make them more known and will make many new users register and play. But we also don't blame them, I mean all decisions are in our hands. What we need to understand is that we must be able to equip ourselves with the knowledge that there is a very big risk. When we realize that, it will make us more careful not to play excessively. Because as I said this will come back to ourselves, because it's useless to blame others when we can't control ourselves. They do something and get rewards, so we shouldn't have thoughts about something that is promotional in nature, because it can be arranged in such a way.

For those individuals who do really end up on messing up their lives with because of gambling then they would really be loving on pointing out their fingers into someone on which this is a common behavior.
They dont really accept out their mistakes or errors basing up into the decisions that they had made on with gambling. As for gambling business owners then it will really be that understandable that you do really needed up to consider on having that marketing for exposure on which it will really be that an advantage into the business and they would really be allocating some budget on hiring those known people or influencers to spread up the word specially into its launch time, plus having those too good looking offers and perks on the moment that people would be seeing this stuff then they do get easily hooked up with it.
Its true that there's no other that should really be blamed none other but ourselves and if you wont really be that careful or having that control then you are really that bound into disaster.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 10, 2024, 01:08:45 AM

Quote from: Zoomic on November 09, 2024, 12:24:04 PM

It's even worst when this advertisements are done by top celebrities and influencers the people trust so much. This people often assure their followers that the whole winning proccess is as easy as ABC.They do not also forget to promise bonuses just by using their promo codes and completing a few gambling sessions. People often get carried away with this easy-to-make money only to realise that it was a trap to make them gamble and even lose money.

Yes, I admit that can influence people easily to follow what celebrities and influencers did. People wants to get the winning like them so they will try to playing gambling so they can win. But that will not easy as they don't know when they can win but they will lose their money anytime. Their losses will be big especially if they can not stop themselves from keep playing gambling. That is why people must realize that if an offers too good to be true, they must not try following celebrities and influencers because the result will be different than those people. If they still want to playing gambling, they must have many things to prevents they getting deeper in gambling or avoids becoming addicted to gambling.

That's why they will work with celebrities or famous influencers to make them more known and will make many new users register and play. But we also don't blame them, I mean all decisions are in our hands. What we need to understand is that we must be able to equip ourselves with the knowledge that there is a very big risk. When we realize that, it will make us more careful not to play excessively. Because as I said this will come back to ourselves, because it's useless to blame others when we can't control ourselves. They do something and get rewards, so we shouldn't have thoughts about something that is promotional in nature, because it can be arranged in such a way.

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Quote from: Zoomic on November 09, 2024, 12:24:04 PM

It's even worst when this advertisements are done by top celebrities and influencers the people trust so much. This people often assure their followers that the whole winning proccess is as easy as ABC.They do not also forget to promise bonuses just by using their promo codes and completing a few gambling sessions. People often get carried away with this easy-to-make money only to realise that it was a trap to make them gamble and even lose money.

Yes, I admit that can influence people easily to follow what celebrities and influencers did. People wants to get the winning like them so they will try to playing gambling so they can win. But that will not easy as they don't know when they can win but they will lose their money anytime. Their losses will be big especially if they can not stop themselves from keep playing gambling. That is why people must realize that if an offers too good to be true, they must not try following celebrities and influencers because the result will be different than those people. If they still want to playing gambling, they must have many things to prevents they getting deeper in gambling or avoids becoming addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on November 03, 2024, 05:00:29 PM

When gambling there are options that always look very enticing but those ones are the most dangerous to pick because its actually a trap..This is why I don't pick an option in gambling based on the number of odds, when the odds are very small we feel absolutely safe at that point you are already in a psychological trap. When it's too obvious it's definitely a trap, But this always seem to be case, you can't get trapped in every situation,. This is probably your terrible experience with gambling someone else might have something different to say about it.

I will agree with your explanation, but I don't buy the idea of betting on small odd to neither be a way of excaping trap of being too obvious to be true. Because even some Small odd may also be too obvious a trap. which after you bet on it hoping to win since the odd are little, they may disappoint you. When something is too obviously a trap it's is not only when something is highly attractive but also less attractive to be true. Meaning that the lesser thing you see as an escape routes can also be a trap, but just that it may not appear so obvious.

In other words that is to say nothing is certainly to be a trap because at some point we feel it is a trap it is not and when we feel it is not a trap it will becomes a trap and this can only be justified until the end of the game and at such, that is apparently the main reason where we are always being encouraged to only gamble with that very amount we can afford to lose as a way of not being carried away by over confidence because nothing is certain. It is emotionally draining when we allow what we see to influence our decision which ends up in the opposite direction.

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Quote from: alastantiger on November 09, 2024, 04:18:42 PM

I don't get why people still believe celebrity endorsement when they should know that they're only doing the endorsement because they're being paid for it and it isn't like they believe what they're endorsing. Some celebrities don't use the things that they endorsed hence we should not be too excited when we see our favourite celebrities endorsing a gambling platform. Celebrity are being used as trap to make their followers to use the casino that they endorsed. I don't use any casino being influenced by celebrities because I know it is only a trap and the casino will be using the money that I lose to look for more celebrities to pay. I rely on recommendations from the forum and I look for casino that are advertising on the forum because I know they won't want to scam and lose their credibility on the forum because of the few dollars that I'll be gambling on the casino, when they can make more money being genuine.

By now, people should have learned their lessons already. Celebrities are used to attract the attention of many, however, the truth behind is they are being paid for their services. So they will do whatever is necessary. Otherwise, the casino will stop them from being the Ambassadors and won't continue getting their services.

Quote from: Woodie on November 09, 2024, 08:58:29 AM

I think based on what I read on most scam accusations on the forum, one of the things that can be termed as a trap is the play without KYC on a licensed casino and the deposit bonuses with their huge rollover requirements...you I have been in this position and when you deposit and start playing on these platforms, they usually never ask questions but when to remove money comes it becomes a whole different story, same thing with bonuses..some are near impossible to flip and would advise people to stay clear of bonuses...just play with your money and you should be okay.

This is why it is on the player's responsibilities to browse the ToS of every casino they want to play with. You need to make sure that you can comply their requirements if they require you to. Also, talking about bonuses or rewards, one should always check the conditions attached to it as there are tempting perks with unreasonable wagering requirements, just an example.

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Quote from: Zoomic on November 09, 2024, 12:24:04 PM

It's even worst when this advertisements are done by top celebrities and influencers the people trust so much. This people often assure their followers that the whole winning proccess is as easy as ABC.They do not also forget to promise bonuses just by using their promo codes and completing a few gambling sessions. People often get carried away with this easy-to-make money only to realise that it was a trap to make them gamble and even lose money.

I don't get why people still believe celebrity endorsement when they should know that they're only doing the endorsement because they're being paid for it and it isn't like they believe what they're endorsing. Some celebrities don't use the things that they endorsed hence we should not be too excited when we see our favourite celebrities endorsing a gambling platform. Celebrity are being used as trap to make their followers to use the casino that they endorsed. I don't use any casino being influenced by celebrities because I know it is only a trap and the casino will be using the money that I lose to look for more celebrities to pay. I rely on recommendations from the forum and I look for casino that are advertising on the forum because I know they won't want to scam and lose their credibility on the forum because of the few dollars that I'll be gambling on the casino, when they can make more money being genuine.

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Quote from: Jewan420 on November 08, 2024, 01:27:29 PM

The biggest trap of online gambling establishments is the advertisement, which shows that you can earn more money by playing some simple games and you will own a lot of money in a few days. Online casinos place these ads more in places where money is scarce and education rates are very low. Minors and some uneducated people who do not have much knowledge about these things fall into these traps the most. When they start playing the games there is some profit to entice them in the first place which is their second trap. Later they extort money from that customer, not knowing about these scams, they continue to gamble with the hope of profit as in the first case until they run out of money and lose.

When you see the gambling advertisement, your minds will comes about how easy to win in gambling. That can makes you curious with the win so you will visit the casino, make an account and start deposit some money. Whether you lose that money or win the money, your minds will thinks to return to casino in the next days and also thinks that can I win more money from that games? That psychology will comes to your minds and telling you to keep trying although you don't know if you can win more or lose more. And yes, minors will fall into these traps the most because they can not control themselves well and they will return to casino to start playing over and over. That will be a start for them to get addicted to gambling without they realize and if they can not stop themselves, they will becomes a heavy addicted gamblers.

It's even worst when this advertisements are done by top celebrities and influencers the people trust so much. This people often assure their followers that the whole winning proccess is as easy as ABC.They do not also forget to promise bonuses just by using their promo codes and completing a few gambling sessions. People often get carried away with this easy-to-make money only to realise that it was a trap to make them gamble and even lose money.

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