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On the contraary it looks like somehow bitcoin has historically moved WITH the stock market.
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Who are the freemsons who are the bosses of the whales, do a google search
OK, I agree that the stock market is due for a crash, and a big one at that, but I don't know anything about this Freemasonry shit.  Sounds like a whole bunch of paranoid conspiracy crap. 

When interest rates start rising and bonds and other fixed return investments start getting more attractive, you bet your ass the stock market will fall.  There's no market in the world that keeps rising forever, and it's been proven in the stock market repeatedly.  Will bitcoin rise because of that?  Who knows.  It isn't as though crypto is a safe haven asset for troubled times--bitcoin is one of the riskiest investments known to man.  And I think low interest rates have contributed significantly to crypto speculation.  People borrow cheap money to plow into this stuff, and it blew bitcoin up like a balloon.  It's economics, not some voodoo plot by the illuminati/freemasons/people who did 9/11.
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The biggest problem I have with this theory is that - currently bitcoin price is showing very positive correlation with VIX. meaning when stock goes down, bitcoin goes down. not sure the correlation could be reversed anytime soon.

This.

Part of the reason the US stock market blew up is because interest rates are so low, and people are desperate for yield. But this is the same thing making Wall Street types look at bitcoin. They look at the returns and their eyes get googly (or they get upset because they missed THE trade of 2017).

If interest rates rise, people can get returns without taking mad risks, so both stocks and bitcoin should drop.
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The biggest problem I have with this theory is that - currently bitcoin price is showing very positive correlation with VIX. meaning when stock goes down, bitcoin goes down. not sure the correlation could be reversed anytime soon.
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Has the UK left the EU already? The date for leaving is March 2019, we can talk about the effects that after that date.
Right now the UK is still a member of the EU and nothing has changed.
Well, I've been meaning the Brexit vote rather then the actual process (yep, my mistake, sorry). The noise on all mainstream european medias was insane and almost all of them were saying that the UK will become a closed island, all companies will leave it in a hurry asap after the vote. Despite all those FUD the country ended 2017 with a stronger economic growth in key industries.
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The coming usa stock market crash will lead to a huge explosion in Bitcoin prices.

Some of those investments might transfer to BTC but I think they will mainly go to gold. Thats what long, established investors have done for decades now. Its safe, proven and its what they know. Why would it have to change now?

BTC is largely for the new breed of investor.

Gold fell from 1.9k to 1.2k through US manipulation. Not sure how that's safe?
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I can agree somewhat with the title,
1. Brexit. Every european mainstream media claimed that the country will financialy die after leaving EU but the UK had a good growth in their economy in 2017.

Has the UK left the EU already? The date for leaving is March 2019, we can talk about the effects that after that date.
Right now the UK is still a member of the EU and nothing has changed.
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Do you guys realize the market had three down days including being down 600. Cryptos are down while the stock market is down

As he states above

Also remember, If most folks are only putting in 'money they can afford' if the stock market tanks and/or you have less job security as a result, etc, etc

Discretionary extra money ..used for crypto may dry up....you may WISH to buy crypto..you may FIND you don't have the means due to stock market

and/or other FUD due to such a crash in the stock market.



This is the biggest thing, stock markets tend to crash when the economy is performing poorly and unemployment increases and spending across the whole economy does so too. When times are hard people won't be looking to invest in stocks or anything else for that matter, they'll be saving and trying to get through it.
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Do you guys realize the market had three down days including being down 600. Cryptos are down while the stock market is down

As he states above

Also remember, If most folks are only putting in 'money they can afford' if the stock market tanks and/or you have less job security as a result, etc, etc

Discretionary extra money ..used for crypto may dry up....you may WISH to buy crypto..you may FIND you don't have the means due to stock market

and/or other FUD due to such a crash in the stock market.

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Do you guys realize the market had three down days including being down 600. Cryptos are down while the stock market is down
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To be honest I see different talks about the stock market bubble for the last few years and the ones that keep repeating it usually say that everything will explode pretty soon. But with all the respect to your provided sourses (yes, they are always can be concidered as  reputable) I will not agree that Stocks will have any problems in that year. Just take a look on the latest global FUD that was spreaded among the markets for the last year:
1. Brexit. Every european mainstream media claimed that the country will financialy die after leaving EU but the UK had a good growth in their economy in 2017.
2. Trump elections were shown by democrats and their establishment as the apocalypse for the economy but it still shown a pretty good result in 2017.
3. Germany have spent 4 months without a government. Some people were saying that their economy suposed to die during this time. But it still growing and Frankfurt will soon become the EU financial capital.
The stock market has performed greately on the recent year and I don't see any serious reason for big changes in 2018. But if something happens the chance that the traditional investors will enter cryptomarket is still low. They will rather buy some obligations then bitcoin.
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Yes but the thing is intelligent investors invest becasue of fundamentals not because something is going up or down. Stocks are overvalued and so they will fall 100% but when, the earning are staying  stable but the market is up over 40% higher or more than it should be especially with the near bankrupt position of the usa.
USA Stock Market is a REAL BUBBLE
The US stock market really is a threat, but the owners of the shares in the same conditions as we do. They put a lot of money in stocks and don't want to lose the money. I am sure that they will not sell shares. If they fall in price then they will buy them cheaper. Now the dollar is falling in value and maybe it will make their shares more attractive.
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The coming usa stock market crash will lead to a huge explosion in Bitcoin prices.Looks like the Illuminati whales that control bitcoin are also working a conspiracy on wall street.Earning are what move stock prices and the USA is hollow its deficit of debt,debt higher than ever, the us dollar is falling and inflation is rising and will continue to rise.the Earning on wallstreet have been flat since 2013 but the strange thing is the US Stock exchange is going higher and higher and it is all base on hot air, or a conspiracy. The stock market will collapse when the Illuminatti whales want it to and then people will run from stocks and put the money where.
In gold where you can not even hold gold if you buy it in large quantities for the laws and how they restrict people from taking delivery of gold? No they will put it into cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin is the king of them.Just wait for the media to start talking about the stock market crash and if you have the patience to hold now then you will make huge gains!!

https://www.investopedia.com/news/1929-stock-market-crash-could-it-happen-2018/

https://www.rt.com/business/410317-bond-market-crash-prediction/

but there is much information talking about this and it is getting ready to happen.I think this is why the whales are driving the price down now they know this is coming because the freemasons plan these things together and they execute them together.

Who are the freemsons who are the bosses of the whales, do a google search

If the cryptocurrency markets bottom out soon before the stock market crashes, then I think you could be correct. It is very possible that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will be recovering while the stock market is crashing.

However, after a cryptocurrency crash, the recovery is usually gradual rather than a quick increase. After the last crash, it took a couple of years to reach a new high.
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Yes but the thing is intelligent investors invest becasue of fundamentals not because something is going up or down. Stocks are overvalued and so they will fall 100% but when, the earning are staying  stable but the market is up over 40% higher or more than it should be especially with the near bankrupt position of the usa.
USA Stock Market is a REAL BUBBLE
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For some people crashing stock market or digital currency is a blessing. This means lower prices and the best time to buy them. So when the economy comes back again it will be a big profit for the investors. I think this is the philosophy of Warren Buffett.
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I am fully agree with mean about non expectable market going.
Because win in all this panic minority, who think not ordinary
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I don't think so, the fed will be raising rates so money will move into bonds not Bitcoin, they will pick sure money
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The coming usa stock market crash will lead to a huge explosion in Bitcoin prices.

Some of those investments might transfer to BTC but I think they will mainly go to gold. Thats what long, established investors have done for decades now. Its safe, proven and its what they know. Why would it have to change now?

BTC is largely for the new breed of investor.
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yes right now noone expects it, many sites like blomberg where the people go to trust in verified financial information are saying to invest without fear.This is another reason the things look suspicious
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The crash will come when no one will expect it.
Last few years everybody expected a crash yet the stocks registered 12 straight positive month records.
It seems everything happens against the crowd sentiment
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