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Quote from: KupaCrypto on August 14, 2023, 06:17:23 AM

Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

Yes, adherence to the trading plan is healthy in trading. It is wrong to move from one strategy to another without completing it. This movement often causes losses.

It is true that most of the time you have to stick to the trading plan until the end, but on the other hand, sometimes insisting on continuing the strategy is a mistake. If you see a defect in the results, you should re-evaluate the plan and then decide whether to continue, move to another strategy, or stop.

If you are driven by greed, then switching from one strategy to another is definitely a bad idea. This may give a result once or twice, but at a distance it can bring losses.
If your strategy is not working, then it should be rethought, I agree with you. Worse than a non-working strategy can only be its absence.
I agree with you, sometimes stopping and waiting without doing anything is the best strategy at this point in time.

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Quote from: KupaCrypto on August 14, 2023, 06:17:23 AM

There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend, Traders are expected to encounter Challenges during trading and relating these challenges with people's experiences can be the key in solving the challenge,
Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

Better to find a trading pattern, and trading strategy to your side because not as always others strategy is working on you and suitable on it is to change every time it doesn't work, also make a backtrack with your trading mistakes, this serves to you as a guide and identifier with your trading activities. I know this could be an expensive learning but this is part of the trading journey of course, if your not too much confident why not take a try with the scalping or spot trading for a while.

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Quote from: KupaCrypto on August 14, 2023, 06:17:23 AM

There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend, Traders are expected to encounter Challenges during trading and relating these challenges with people's experiences can be the key in solving the challenge,
Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

These are factors that lead to unfavorable trading and investors need to be aware to avoid them. While any position that is in the red needs to be analyzed if it's still viable to hold them, we also need to look at our green position. In my opinion profitability should be the main concern in which we evaluate our trades and if a coin doesn't appear to be profitable we should switch investments. But even a trade that makes us money can be unprofitable. For example, if we make 5% on a project where we invest countless hours on research and time observing the market for the optimal buy and sell time, we maybe could have made higher returns in another project. Also we need to keep our opportunity cost in mind, all the hours trading we could have worked as an employee and get a monthly salary. So, there are multiple levels of profitability and we should consider them all when evaluating our positions.

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Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

Sticking to the original trading plan is actually good but there are circumstance in the course of the trade that will necessitate a change of plan that's why as a trader always have a contingency plan/strategy for every trade you execute so you don't get stucked in the middle of a trade that's not going in your favour and needs an immediate change of action you don't start working on emotions and blind trading.

Those who work with trading plan are the ones that will become successful in trading because greed is one of the things that will that keep making traders to end up in loses. It is good to always ask questions no meter how good we are in trading. Traders need a lot of effort to analyze the market so that one can be more profitable as a trader. Those we keep losing in trading are doing that because of eithner they are not ready to learn or they can't analyze the market very well. Market analysis is a very important part if being a trader unless we are using bots.

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Quote from: KupaCrypto on August 14, 2023, 06:17:23 AM

Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

Sticking to the original trading plan is actually good but there are circumstance in the course of the trade that will necessitate a change of plan that's why as a trader always have a contingency plan/strategy for every trade you execute so you don't get stucked in the middle of a trade that's not going in your favour and needs an immediate change of action you don't start working on emotions and blind trading.

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You could classify those things with your emotions. And it's not a factor of what happens in the market but a factor where you are trying to make yourself vulnerable towards how you are going to react with the market. It's going to lead to unfavorable trading, but you can do something about it if you step away from the emotions itself. That's why I love bots so much because they are consistent with trading.

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Quote from: Quidat on August 20, 2023, 02:43:33 PM

There's no guarantee in speaking about trading when it comes to successful or profitable trades on which there's always that kind of probability that no matter how well or hard we do really make out that kind of analysis then there's always that chance for it to lose or ends up on being negative due to volatility and there's no way on avoiding this. This is why on the time that you would be seeing your trades going south or something that do speak about becomes errors or mistakes then usually people do get impulsive but experienced ones are already get used to it.

That is the reason why trade is not suitable for many people because even though we control technical matters, surely at certain times we will suffer losses. There is always a possible loss from every trade that we do, but what distinguishes the extent to which we are able to face psychological and emotional in it, so that even if we experience losses it will not make us psychologically influenced which excessive. That we can get when experience has taught us to face many things and experience will also shape us to be more mature in all things trading is no exception.

Quote from: Quidat on August 20, 2023, 02:43:33 PM

This is why we do make out some multiple back up plans if ever a certain trade would really become that a losing one on which if ever the price dips then we do DCA if ever it do gains up then we do secure profits. We know that trading could be neither be having that kind of type which you might be dealing up with spot or futures which it does really have that kind of different approach when it comes to positioning and does require that different kind of dealing in times of durations or on how you would be placing yourself towards the market.

Everyone has their own pattern of how they are involved in bitcoin both related to trading and investment. A backup plan is needed so that someone will not stop when experiencing losses in one place and that reason a person must also know his ability, whether they are suitable to trade or indeed more suitable for investment.

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Quote from: Quidat on August 20, 2023, 02:43:33 PM

There's no guarantee in speaking about trading when it comes to successful or profitable trades on which there's always that kind of probability that no matter how well or hard we do really make out that kind of analysis then there's always that chance for it to lose or ends up on being negative due to volatility and there's no way on avoiding this. This is why on the time that you would be seeing your trades going south or something that do speak about becomes errors or mistakes then usually people do get impulsive but experienced ones are already get used to it. This is why we do make out some multiple back up plans if ever a certain trade would really become that a losing one on which if ever the price dips then we do DCA if ever it do gains up then we do secure profits. We know that trading could be neither be having that kind of type which you might be dealing up with spot or futures which it does really have that kind of different approach when it comes to positioning and does require that different kind of dealing in times of durations or on how you would be placing yourself towards the market.

Of course, it is difficult to plan now - especially because of the unpredictability of the market. It is not always possible to close a deal at a loss - you can lose all your capital. Intuition and portfolio diversification play an important role in trading. Impulsive trading, unfortunately, often takes place and can wipe out all the profits we earn by hard work in a matter of minutes

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Quote from: KupaCrypto on August 14, 2023, 06:17:23 AM

There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend, Traders are expected to encounter Challenges during trading and relating these challenges with people's experiences can be the key in solving the challenge,
Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

That is the difficulty of trading and technically even though we have carried out the right strategy there is a kalan we suffer losses at certain times. Experience will direct someone how he is able to get out of pressure on the condition of loss. Emotions must also always be maintained to be stable when experiencing losses or when having to change trading patterns on the trip, so that it does not affect psychology when everything does not go well. Having a good trading plan and we also do not need to be rigid when we have to change other strategies because it could be the grip of our strategy not suitable in certain trade and must be adjusted quickly so as not to suffer losses.

Trading is arguably elastic and everyone does not only hold on to one strategy when you want to get a profit, because the core of running trade is only to achieve profits and that we must also be realistic when certain starters must be changed because there is no compatibility in undergoing certain trade at time at time which is the same.

There's no guarantee in speaking about trading when it comes to successful or profitable trades on which there's always that kind of probability that no matter how well or hard we do really make out that kind of analysis then there's always that chance for it to lose or ends up on being negative due to volatility and there's no way on avoiding this. This is why on the time that you would be seeing your trades going south or something that do speak about becomes errors or mistakes then usually people do get impulsive but experienced ones are already get used to it. This is why we do make out some multiple back up plans if ever a certain trade would really become that a losing one on which if ever the price dips then we do DCA if ever it do gains up then we do secure profits. We know that trading could be neither be having that kind of type which you might be dealing up with spot or futures which it does really have that kind of different approach when it comes to positioning and does require that different kind of dealing in times of durations or on how you would be placing yourself towards the market.

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Quote from: KupaCrypto on August 14, 2023, 06:17:23 AM

There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend, Traders are expected to encounter Challenges during trading and relating these challenges with people's experiences can be the key in solving the challenge,
Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

That is the difficulty of trading and technically even though we have carried out the right strategy there is a kalan we suffer losses at certain times. Experience will direct someone how he is able to get out of pressure on the condition of loss. Emotions must also always be maintained to be stable when experiencing losses or when having to change trading patterns on the trip, so that it does not affect psychology when everything does not go well. Having a good trading plan and we also do not need to be rigid when we have to change other strategies because it could be the grip of our strategy not suitable in certain trade and must be adjusted quickly so as not to suffer losses.

Trading is arguably elastic and everyone does not only hold on to one strategy when you want to get a profit, because the core of running trade is only to achieve profits and that we must also be realistic when certain starters must be changed because there is no compatibility in undergoing certain trade at time at time which is the same.

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Quote from: avp2306 on August 20, 2023, 04:54:49 AM

Not actually years since he could develop that for months of proper researching and experiences on his trades. Its just it depends on your willingness to learn since if you just trade and leave the scene then came back when you feel to trade again then it will really take you for years before you can develop some strategy since your inconsistency will make your progress slow. But if you are eager to try and risk something just to learn for this you can learn a lot of thing without reaching years on trading.

This process will be different for everyone, maybe it will take someone less time, but basically this will take years. And the result will be those who will properly assess the risks, when the priority is to preserve your capital. Many beginners trade without stop losses and it seems to me that this significantly increases the risks for all traders, whether you are a beginner or an experienced trader.

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Losing isn't quite unusual when you are new but if that will be consistently happening despite that you are in trading for several months, then we would that say there is a huge problem with us. Is not only we are too greedy, chasing trends, or chasing our losses but there is a problem with how we decide in every situation. Decision-making really matters in trading because even if you have a long trading experience but if you still lack of making a good decision or we can say we are following your emotions, you can't expect something good to happen to you either.

Before a beginner is formed as a trader, he will need several years to form his trading strategy and gain the necessary experience. It can take from three years and all this time the trader will not have any significant profit, so when I hear the words beginner and trading, I understand that few of them will succeed and only a few will be able to go this way to eventually become traders who will receive profit.

Not actually years since he could develop that for months of proper researching and experiences on his trades. Its just it depends on your willingness to learn since if you just trade and leave the scene then came back when you feel to trade again then it will really take you for years before you can develop some strategy since your inconsistency will make your progress slow. But if you are eager to try and risk something just to learn for this you can learn a lot of thing without reaching years on trading.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 20, 2023, 12:00:58 AM

Losing isn't quite unusual when you are new but if that will be consistently happening despite that you are in trading for several months, then we would that say there is a huge problem with us. Is not only we are too greedy, chasing trends, or chasing our losses but there is a problem with how we decide in every situation. Decision-making really matters in trading because even if you have a long trading experience but if you still lack of making a good decision or we can say we are following your emotions, you can't expect something good to happen to you either.

Before a beginner is formed as a trader, he will need several years to form his trading strategy and gain the necessary experience. It can take from three years and all this time the trader will not have any significant profit, so when I hear the words beginner and trading, I understand that few of them will succeed and only a few will be able to go this way to eventually become traders who will receive profit.

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Greed and chasing a trade are mostly what leads to losses in the Market, Took me a lot of time also to overcome this type of issue i have now adjusted my trading style and have learned my lesson to always stick to the trading plan no matter how hard, only that way one can to able to maintain consistency

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Quote from: KupaCrypto on August 14, 2023, 06:17:23 AM

There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend, Traders are expected to encounter Challenges during trading and relating these challenges with people's experiences can be the key in solving the challenge,
Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

Losing isn't quite unusual when you are new but if that will be consistently happening despite that you are in trading for several months, then we would that say there is a huge problem with us. Is not only we are too greedy, chasing trends, or chasing our losses but there is a problem with how we decide in every situation. Decision-making really matters in trading because even if you have a long trading experience but if you still lack of making a good decision or we can say we are following your emotions, you can't expect something good to happen to you either.

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Quote from: KupaCrypto on August 14, 2023, 06:17:23 AM

There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend...

A lack of skills and experience usually leads to unfavorable trading. In such cases, instead of opening a short, a long position is opened and vice versa. It's all becoming like a casino. And so it goes on until all the money is lost.

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Quote from: KupaCrypto on August 14, 2023, 06:17:23 AM

There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend, Traders are expected to encounter Challenges during trading and relating these challenges with people's experiences can be the key in solving the challenge,
Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

When you trade, you cannot simply expect that all your trades will be good enough to stay you in profits. In fact, there are more unfavorable trades happening than those favorable ones. That is because the market is not stable and will always be prone to changes every now and then, which makes it hard to predict a lot of times. And since most of the traders too particularly the newbies who claimed to be good traders brought along their greed and expect immediate profits, then that will make their trades more unfavorable to the market. The fact that you trade simply because for profits and not with passion to understand the market well, then it’s not surprising that you’ll end up trading that the market won’t favor.

Have that realistic approach and not something like a perfect trader kind of mindset because it would really be just disappoint you out because we know that this market is truly unpredictable which

means that every step you would make wont really be giving out an assurance that it would be positive. This is what always those people misconcepts about trading and dealing with this market.
Specially when you are still newbie on which having this kind of common impression is really that you would feel on the time that you would be starting on. On the time that you would be able to face up the reality of this market then this is where self realization would kick in and you would be having that kind of impression that the initial mindset you do have is very wrong.

Therefore, you would really be making out adjustments basing up on what you had encountered and you wont really be that too dumb enough for you not to distinguish on how risky this market is.
If you dont make it serious then dont expect about serious results. Loses are inevitable but you could really be able to lessen it out if you do know on what you are doing.

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Quote from: KupaCrypto on August 14, 2023, 06:17:23 AM

There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend, Traders are expected to encounter Challenges during trading and relating these challenges with people's experiences can be the key in solving the challenge,
Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

When you trade, you cannot simply expect that all your trades will be good enough to stay you in profits. In fact, there are more unfavorable trades happening than those favorable ones. That is because the market is not stable and will always be prone to changes every now and then, which makes it hard to predict a lot of times. And since most of the traders too particularly the newbies who claimed to be good traders brought along their greed and expect immediate profits, then that will make their trades more unfavorable to the market. The fact that you trade simply because for profits and not with passion to understand the market well, then it’s not surprising that you’ll end up trading that the market won’t favor.

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There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend, Traders are expected to encounter Challenges during trading and relating these challenges with people's experiences can be the key in solving the challenge,
Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

No matter how experience you are in trading, the market is always the master. Even sticking to the trading plan isn’t perfect either, because there are unpredictable things that would happen without warning.

Even pro traders out there are getting liquidated in their positions too. Whatever technical analysis, predictions and insights that they have, they cannot outsmart the market.

Risk management is always the best skill that we need in unpredictable situations in the crypto space.

You are right there. That’s why there are unstoppable losses in trading because it’s hard to take an edge over the market because of how unpredictable it is, regardless if you are an experienced trader or not. With that realization, even sticking to your original trading plan may not guarantee that your trades will become successful. Furthermore, no matter how your trades look perfect, but as long as the market condition will never favor your trades, then you will never achieve the goal that you have set. If you want to trade successfully, do not trade just because you think it’s the right thing to do, but because you understand the market’s condition and you know exactly when it will be profitable to trade.

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Quote from: lienfaye on August 17, 2023, 08:48:00 PM

Well it depends. It's good to follow your trading plan since that's what you prepared for. However there are instances wherein changing strategy is also beneficial and that is if you know the current plan is not going to have a good result. Thus, it depends on the situation since we all want to profit when we trade.

But it's not right if you're frequently switching strategy and didn't complete the current one due to your greed. The reason why you need to condition yourself to set aside emotion when dealing in trading because it can influence your decision to stick to your plan.

If you are continuously losing money in trading then its better to revise your strategy since there is no point in following a strategy that is giving you loss only. Sometimes changing the path also work and that's how we learn. You wont get a mature strategy straight away, one has to follow different strategies before he figure out what best work for him. To me best strategy is to invest for long time and you are following long term investment plan then you dont need to change it frequently.

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