Topic: When will Sam Bankman-Fried go to jail? (Read 2430 times)

https://twitter.com/mirandadevine/status/1685673614840840192



"The DOJ is trying to arrest Devon Archer ahead of his bombshell testimony Monday about Joe Biden’s involvement in his son Hunter’s Ukraine business when he was VP. US attorney in the SDNY Damian Williams issued a menacing letter yesterday - Saturday - telling Judge Abrams to order Archer to go to jail immediately to serve a one year sentence for his fraud conviction."




Damian Williams same DOJ fucker doing the SBF Con-Job



And OMG Samuel Rothschild wrote the letter for Damian Williams


Remember SBF was using his pal Zelensky to launder money which all connects to Joe and Hunter Biden so this relates to SBF and that Con-Job by the DOJ Satanic Cabal!

The USA response to the "Satanic Banker Mafia" of SBF and FTX is the weakest it has ever been in the History of the USA Banking Scandals!

Of course he is likely to Walk as the USA has become a Communist Hell Hole carrying out Communist "Cultural Revolution" across the West! 

Trust me there is no such thing as any "Rights" BS things they will do as they please and keep suppressing as the Communist always does!

In fact I think all of life is such a sick game of psychological warfare, and I have had lots of miracles in my life too, which I am grateful for, but wow everything sucks with Communists in charge! 

Totally different situation but its true that they might be able to skip out government actions or getting imprisoned due to have that kind of money which he could really bribe on but not totally be able to remove the entire risks in speaking on getting abducted or would be chopped out just like into those people who had stepped out on peoples face and stealing out their money but we know that
these type of people wont really be that easily that you could really be able to see on public or would really be getting alone considering that he is really that presuming that his life is really at danger
when it comes to this matter on which means that he would really be that be careful on wherever he would go or making himself be seen by other people specially on the thing that he had done.
He might be able to skip out that kind of legal issues but in terms of safety then it would really be a different thing because people cant really just easily forget on what he had done.
This is the power of having a huge amount of money on which you could really make yourself that able to have those exemptions or whatever you could be able to do considering
that we are living on a corrupted world where everything could be almost be bribed.

Welp. Apparently not anymore lol, sad day for people out here that got screwed by FTX and this sick son of a bastard that took money away from people who didn't mean him any harm in the past. Apparently he got absolved off of his issues and charges (although correct me if I'm wrong cause twitter and the internet seems to paint it that way) cause he has been donating money to sectors and parties that are seated in the government, basically like bribing people but under legal pretenses lol.

I wouldn't be so chill however, especially since some people who got duped by scammers and big tiktok cryptocurrency influencers have taken matters into their own hands. Pleterskin was kidnapped and beaten within an inch of his life by 6 of the people he messed with. Another cryptocurrency influencer was found chopped up just a few days ago. SBF should be very careful because threats are becoming more and more real now.

This is because the justice system isn't that reliable as it's seem and this is not only happening in the US as same fate is aslo taking place in most cases of people who are clearly criminals but due to how influential the person maybe he might surely get away with the crime. And I think same is the case of S.B.F, he has and aslo his dad is very powerful and influential so him getting away with his crimes will kinda be an easy-pisy for him and couple with the fact that he is still on trial and haven't been convicted of any crime yet

In November 2022, FTX's founding chairman SBF announced that his own established popular centralized exchange was hacked and declared bankrupt. SBF steals huge amount of dollars from public. However, he has donated these stolen dollars to some sectors, a draft of which is given below.



Source: https://twitter.com/TheBTCTherapist/status/1685728102612078592?t=TjArbmViujytoGsfnsP2RQ&s=19

you go to JAIL pre trial
you go to PRISON post trial

heres a image for you. you like them

I was attempting to distinguish between going to jail prior to trial versus going to jail after trial.  It seems that we have to think about those differently.  He is not supposed to go to jail prior to being convicted - unless he is a flight risk or he is otherwise breaking rules in regards to tampering with witnesses and things like that.   Whether he gets convicted and therefore has to go to jail after the trial is another question, and yeah there are some problems in regards to how connected his parents are, and there are problems that his parents likely committed some crimes in terms of their connection with Sam's business and also in connection to receiving proceeds from Sam's business.. so it does seem a bit surprising that those family members still are not being charged... and maybe it would become even more and more complicated to charge family members based on some of their connections to politicians who also might have some guilt/blood on their hands.

We cannot necessarily assume it is all corrupt, even though sometimes there are some questionable results that don't really seems to be serving justice.. so sometimes we have to make sure we are attempting to talk about which parts are corrupt rather than merely throwing out blanket statements that might not exactly be true.

Yes boss, what you said is very clear to me and we I know that the judiciary system in that state is somehow corrupted so in that case anything can happen, if SBF will be jail, he will not be in prison for more than a month because his parents are also affleunce. I think the reason why SBF is been warned multiple times is because the government might even be scared of him or his family, or isn't it apparent?

I believe that judges are even more reluctant to put white collar defendants in jail than they are blue collar or poor people in jail because the considerations in regards to whether they might have had prejudiced the defendant's ability to defend himself - especially when the case is more complicated.. so Sam has a right to defend himself, while at the same time, if Sam is breaking rules that are imposed on him then his right to be outside of the jail while trial is pending could end up getting circumscribed.. and I have my doubts that he will get put in jail prior to trial.. unless it is a short lesson or warning to him to make him stay in jail for a week or two in order to send him a warning regarding how serious his violation of rules has been.. He has probably been warned several times already...

...but still there do seem to be ways that he is not really being held to account.. so many of us question the appearances of fairness and is he really being treated fairly and is he going to end up getting the punishments that he deserves.. including some of the folks associated with these matters which would include a few of his family members that are likely complicit with aspects of the same crimes.

Yes he might be going to jail soner but tomorrow have to tell, what my Google gave me, is that SBF will be going to jail by October this year but I don't believe it and that's I said tomorrow will tell if SBF is going to jail or not, but he will, although he has been HOME CONFINEMENT ( house arrest) at his parents house in North Carolina close to University campus this source can explain better
 

Well maybe he will be going to jail sooner then he was expecting to. He is now being accused of witness tampering. And US prosecutors have asked for a federal judge to put him in jail.

The judge did put a 'gag order' on SBF so he could not talk openly about the case with FTX. I think he will be going back to jail, he just does not listen to the rules.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/sam-bankman-fried-due-back-court-judge-weighs-bail-conditions-2023-07-26/

"Big Scam" Bankman-Fried can try his best at avoiding the court verdicts, but at the end of the day, he was caught red-handed by regulators duping investors and is going to spend jail time. He's not some no-name scammer on Instagram looking for small fish. The financial damage he caused is way too big for courts to just brush aside as an oopsie.

Gensler' take on Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies is undoubtedly causing ripple. His label of Bitcoin as a commodity fits some descriptions, but the murkiness of regulatory guidelines still clouds the sector. Plus, the point that Gensler' attention is on big crypto exchanges like Binance and Coinbase, not potential rug pulls, raises eyebrows.

But lets be clear, CZ or Brian Armstrong's absence from the courtroom doesnt signify guiltlessness. Regulation is a winding road, with outcomes extending beyond courtrooms. Your forecast about Gensler' replacement seems stern, reflecting Bitcoin maximalists' growing discontent. Leaders like Gensler must aim for clear rules protecting investors, not fostering mistrust.

Oh gawd.. are you trolling or what?  It's too early to figure out if your prediction came true or  not.. so it seems a bit ridiculous that you are asserting that you are correct before some of the actual important matters have had chances to play out.

Yes.. sure it is likely unfair that he is out on bail in order to prepare for trial.. and it is likely unfair that his parents or family members have not been charged yet.. but we will see.. we will see.. I agree with you in the sense that I don't necessarily expect justice to be served, but it is too soon to conclude that you were right about his not going to jail... and it may well happen that he ends up getting several years in jail.. He should get 20 or more.. but still too early to know if something like 20 or more will even end up playing out.



I think that he is on bail.. and yeah a kind of house arrest with a tracking monitor probably based on fear of his fleeing.. and these kinds of things are usually allowed (especially for rich twats who have highly paid attorneys). .so that the defendant can presumably prepare for trial that is currently scheduled for October (even though surely dates could end up changing along the way).


Yes... of course you can do whatever you want, as long as you are not doing illegal things related to the case.. and he cannot leave without permission.. probably the judge.. I think some aspects of his internet had already been restricted based on his earlier behaviors.. yeah, he is a little cunt that probably does not deserve to be outside of jail.. but there is still some presumption of innocence until proven guilty (especially for rich people).


I doubt that he is restricted from those kinds of things.. even though he might be restricted from contacting some of the prosecutor's witnesses.. except maybe to the extent that attorneys come to some kind of an agreement.


again the trial has not happened yet.. and yeah, it does seem that the crimes were fairly egregious and likely it was more than just SBF who needs to be prosecuted and put in jail. but they do need a trial before they can be put in jail.. except sometimes poor people are not able to get bail.. and then some times some rich people cannot get out if there is a high likelihood of their fleeing or that there might be some other reasons that they should not be allowed out while waiting for trial..


By liberal do you mean rich person privilege?

I did not know much of anything about Stanford prior to you mentioning him... .. but presumptively you are referring to this guy:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Stanford


You sound mixed up Outhue.  The case of FTX and Sam's criminal charges are being pursued by the DOJ.. so yes, they are more serious because they are criminal charges.

The charges against Binance and Coinbase, so far, are civil proceedings.. not criminal proceedings... even though it is possible (and there are rumors that may or may not be true in regards to possible criminal charges involving Binance/CZ)...   Not all charges are the same, even if you are wanting to muddy all the various aspects and proclaim that life is not fair..

yeah.. I do agree that there are a lot of unfairnesses, but your proclamations that Sam and FTX are not being held accountable.. remains quite premature, at least so far.. .Sure, the charges against Sam and FTX could get dropped, but dropping those charges does not seem to be the current direction...

Another thing that Gensler and various politicians are doing is taking advantage of the FTX disaster and trying to equate Binance and Coinbase in various kinds of ways in order to justify the various ways that they are playing hardball against Binance and Coinbase, but the mere fact that politicians are muddying the waters should not mean that any of us should be doing the same thing.


Does not mean that SBF's lawyers are going to be successful to keep Sam from serving time.



Maybe?  Maybe not.  You seem to be guessing...


You are likely correct about that... even if the evidence might not be direct, it seems that some reasonable inferences could be made that there could be some shenanigans continuing to go on in the background and that some kinds of behaviors are still able to allow Sam to do things (such as communicate secrets) in such a way that he would not be able to accomplish if he was in jail..


Yes.. He has a right not to plead guilty.. then if he continues to not plead guilty, then his case will go to trial, and the govt (prosecutors) have the burden to show that he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.. and if they prosecutor succeeds, then Sam goes to jail.  He might be able to stay out of jail during an appeal period.. it is likely a bit early to determine how long it might take to try the matters, in the event that he does not plea guilty (which pleaing guilty might end up being the better way for Sam to get reduced jail time.. but you are right, Sam might not plea guilty).

Exactly, I was waiting for a court hearing or something, and CZ is still updating his twitter normal like he used to, CZ is flexing with his life like normal, as if nothing is going on, I doubt they found any incriminating stuff on him, if this is a tough case CZ and Brian Armstrong, the CEO of Coinbase would have been forced to face the judge right now, instead it's only Gensler and his cultish empire that are taking this so serious, Gensler never learned from the first humiliation that happened in the court where he was asked what makes Ethereum a security, I think sooner or later he will be sacked and he might possibly have ti face the the law, because right now some are saying that he is manipulating the market with the power he has been given, someone else will replace this man very soon.

If anyone plays again and someone else is going to jail instead of SBF being the ones who fall, it can be assumed that there is malicious intent on the part of law enforcement and the justice system, I think all eyes will be on him. Today the public and media play a critical role in holding individuals and institutions accountable, and any attempt to manipulate the legal process is likely to face significant backlash and further investigation.

Yes, anything can happen. However, if there is sufficient evidence to support the SBF conviction, it is more likely that he or she will face legal consequences than any other person this wrongfully targets would be consistent with any legal system that upholds the principle of "innocent until proven guilty"

Even though he classifies Bitcoin as a commodity, I'm starting to tire of him, and I'm pretty sure other Bitcoin maximalists feel the same way about him. He is just causing too much division in the crypto industry without changing anything, without even passing any regulations. This makes me believe that he is not serious about having the SEC regulate cryptocurrencies in any way, especially if Binance and Coinbase are more important to him than obvious rugpulls (and securities) $HEX and $PEPE.

with the long days ahead, definitely, his lawyers know already how to get out of this situation. or at least not get a hard sentence from this failure.
with big money involved, i won't be surprised if he will make a deal to his favour. as he's awaiting trial from the comfort of his parents' home, we all know he's not just sitting and waiting, but for sure, he's also moving his funds without the authorities' knowledge.
hence, i don't think he will plead guilty in any of those criminal charges thrown to him.

Correct, Sam is not going to jail it seems, and the stupid Gensler is not even digging more into the FTX case, instead they target Coinbase and mainly Binance exchange, this is the part where I believe that Gensler and Sam with Kevin can be an accomplice in this crime, CZ also revealed that in 2019, Gensler offered to be appointed as Binance advisor and he was turned down.

The case of Sam and FTX might not come to light if Sam was not a spoilt brat, and if he keeps doing this for long it will have a very bad effect in the future, I also feel like politicians are behind Sam and the FTX money manipulations.