Topic: When will the bears take advantage? This bull run lasts so long - page 3. (Read 584 times)

This is one thing some really don't get, the only ones that can crash the price are the ones that hold coins, bears that have pockets full of cash and are waiting for a price drop can't influence the price down, they can only do so up if they decide to buy at which point they are bears no more.

The run will be over when a simple thing happens, there will be less money willing to enter the market than profit-taking and exist by the current holders., not everyone wants to spend 10 more years waiting to buy their dream house or tour the world and not everyone is interested in 300% returns for some the money they made from December till now might be enough.
But nobody has a crystal ball capable of seeing when this will happen!

With the situation is uncertain and things are going to be have not positive movement just because of this all currently no one can predict about when we are going to have bull run even things are on good in last few weeks and peoples are taking good advantage of this all as well but still it's not clear when we will be able to have some good change.
Analysis are showing bitcoin could be on positive move with nothing is clear but mostly are feeling as development are happening 2025 could be good for having big changes, and surely we will be able to watch new ATH or most wanted six figures for the first time but still we need to be calm and having faith in this all.

This can’t be the bull run already, we haven’t even experienced much time of the bulls than we have been enduring for the bears since last three years just after the bull market of 2021. The next halving is still far away and if you check from past bull season, there is always a gap between the halving and the subsequent bull run. The uncertainty of the date for bull run is what makes it intriguing to follow and be anticipating for something big during that period.

I can’t really say if this is the right time to sell, but from all past indications, we are still early in the bull run because bitcoin is even yet to coming to doubling its current all time high, which everyone thinks it’s going to obey the market pattern that it has been following from its inception. No need of speculating here, it’s just that what you’re expecting is not yet the right time for it to happen.

I've not been into the Crypto sphere by the last crytop circle but based on my research, the last half happened by 2020 in the month of May and the halving didn't just so immediately but til the end of the year that the bull run began to showcase its possession.
Actually when I came in lately according to false speculations a lot of us had thought the bull run was to take place immediately after the halving but it was all misconception and wrongful expectations.
The bull run would surely come but not so immediately. According to experts, bitcoin has sequence events but doesn't mean a bull run should be expected as accompany to the halving. History of 2020 even may repeat or likely we should expect the bull run by next year. Although we can still be liable to keep breaking the ATH but not yet a surge to the bull market.

I just see it that because of the ATH that occurred before the halving made everything to change from the traditional way and that is why the bull run is lasting this long and with the way the market it moving we may not experience any bear till after the main bull run begins then the bear can start because there will be massive selling of coins at that time which will make the prices to undergo major corrections that will lead to the bear season.
              I know that most investors are waiting for a dip so that they can start accumulating but that will not happen anytime soon so everyone should HODL on to their coin and should not sell till when a massive bull run begins but it's only short term investors that are even too anxious about a major bull run but for long term investors they are even looking for an opportunity to accumulate more Bitcoins when the bear market comes.

I do not expect the trend to be upward until the next half, at least this did not happen in any of the previous cycles, and I do not think it will happen in this cycle either, although the factors have changed and differed from previous cycles.

I think that we will continue to rise until the middle or end of next year, and then we will begin a phase of significant decline until the next halving. This is just a personal point of view and may or may not be correct.

I think I need to be more concrete. It's definitely not a time for a full bear market because halving happened a month ago and at least for a year, the bull market is guaranteed but isn't this rise unusual? Since November 21, 2022, Bitcoin's price has been going up and up from 15K. What triggered it? It went up from 15.5K to 73.7K and there hasn't been a single moment of a significant struggle for Bitcoin's price since that day.

Are miners at a loss when they mine today? I think that halving can't trigger a bull run the way it triggered in past because today you get compensated by ordinal spammers that pay more than a sane person can imagine. They paid a 30 BTC fee in halving block if I remember correctly.

In the past halving triggered bull run because block reward value got half and miners couldn't profit by mining but today ordinals compensate that loss. Am I wrong?

As the current state of the market is, it will be hard for the bear market to dominate it at this time, the market is a few months after the halving, Which by history, is when we anticipate the bull run to be pushing forward to take over the crypto market to skyrocket bitcoin and other altcoins.

I think the bearish market will dominate the crypto market after the bull run of this year and next year. Maybe by 2026/2027, the bear market will dominate the crypto market cos that's its season to do so

it is obvious that cryptocurrency especially Bitcoin market price is unpredictable that is why I don't believe in some speculations of the price of Bitcoin and any other cryptocurrencies so therefore what u know that is important to anyone who want to sell it bitcoin is when you know what you're doing...in norms the price of bitcoin increasing is been determined by the gravity of the demands, when the demand is lesser the price of bitcoin will drop in value and when the demand is higher the price retardant to high. Let me say this that bear market should not put fear or make you to panic, because is obvious that both bullrun and bearish season is what makes the profit and loss exist in cryptocurrency generally mostly bitcoin investors, so you don't need to be afraid of bitcoin market.

Expectations of bullrun is just imagination and also exaggeration to everyone, their is something I know very well that sometimes that deceived us, what makes us to think that something that's not real be real is base on information we obtain, I don't like to air my interior intension out, base on I know very well that cryptocurrency price is unstable and the price can interchange at any time, so we should not believe that bitcoin price will just skyrocket without experiencing fluctuations in price tag.


As I stipulated before that price of bitcoin is unpredictable and I know very well that bullrun manifest when their is a quantum of demands, and is obvious that when supply is higher than demands it really affect the chances of bitcoin getting increase in the market,  so I believe that price of bitcoin can never be constant....And its clear that when enter into bullrun the market will change colour, and it will affect other cryptocurrencies, for now I don't think that bullrun season has kick-off.

Few consider this as an extended bull run while most of us don't consider this as bull run as we assume bull run is yet to begun it would start either by end of this year or next year hence people are still filling their portfolio but yeah we did witness market going crazy with Altcoins and Bitcoin achieving new ATH but it was not as expected as Bitcoin didn't do even 2x of previous ATH, hence I believe we are yet to witness real bull run this year.

Macro bull market is effect now despite selling days like today seems to have turned out to be, it can still be labelled positive very bullish on a wider view.    

BTC price action has risen from the teens, please dont tell me that didnt involve a bull market.   Also it has not ended now just because we have been back and forth round in circles for months now.  Its frustrating but I would say bull market remains.

A measure sometimes used to define a lost bull market is any decline of more then 20% from the peak.  However BTC is extremely volatile and it would likely be too constrictive to define this asset in the same way as stocks for example.

Are we tired of the bull market already? if we look back to the last time we had the bear market sometimes last year and how it lasted us, many of us were so tired and fed up to the extent that we want to see the bull market begins, and so be it very nicely on us all, we had it earlier than expected before the commencement of the halving and we still sustain it after the halving, this alone will be a reason why we should remain focused on the current season and enjoy it while it last.

To my knowledge, as per the history of Bitcoin, the bull market of Bitcoin gradually starts after Bitcoin halving. The market doesn't get really bullish after halving until the next after halving, and the year after halving is usually when Bitcoin gets to the peak of the bull run, but this season took a different dimension because the price of Bitcoin gave a new ATH even before the halving took place. According to some claims,  the ETF contributed to the Bitcoin price hike, but if the history of Bitcoin price still remains as it used to be, then I believe that we are still to expect more bullish movements in the price of Bitcoin until after 2025. The market may start to get bearish towards the end of 2025 or 2026.

this is a god awful post . no bull run ever lasts too long.

btw I would argue this is not a bullrun for mining ⛏️ so we are nowhere close to a full on bull run.
 

It is very difficult to determine when the holders or investors exit and enjoy the profits, it is a mystery. We all want to get out at the ATH, but the bullish trend certainly doesn't know where the peak is. Learning from past experiences can certainly help, but even that doesn't guarantee that we come out at the right time.

For me personally, I will never sell all my assets at one time even though the price is in line with expectations. The cycle will likely continue to repeat itself and we can still expect higher prices in the next trend. But the best thing is, exit when your target has been achieved even if the market is not yet at the peak of its bullish trend.

You are asking a completely meaningless question at a time when most expect an even greater price increase, because if you missed it, it is possible that the conditions are being created for a perfect bull run, which has already received a great boost from spot ETFs (US), and we have not yet seen the effects of the halving.

In such an environment, the bears are almost helpless, although they are trying all the time to keep the price below $70k, and they have even seriously knocked it down to $56k. The dominance of the bears will have to wait, and in my opinion it will not happen (under normal conditions) for at least another year and probably a little more than that.

The price seems not high like the bullish price we expect after halving but still good enough to see. But I understand why the current situation is different from the previous sentiments after halving it is due to the mindset of the investors changing as well. It is not only the FUD but also political and conflicts in some countries affecting the situation. The majority are not holding long and patience unlike before but selling easily when short pumps come.
I couldn't say when but I expect this will happen 2nd quarter next year. The situation is uncertain and we can really feel the bull season that we expect, something missing like what we experienced in the past.

The bull run hasn't even started.

Price still sitting right around previous cycle ATH. The early pump past the old ATH was entirely from the ETFs buying and hype surrounding that. You'll know the bull run has started once the price starts flying up higher from this range, making current prices seems very low. And yes people will turn into sellers eventually if price gets out of control like it always does during bull markets. It is generally expected the bull run will peak middle-to-late next year and then we'll have another bear market.

Bearish trend has to stem from sellers, didnt we already deal with alot of selling since March high.   If they bought coins recently it was at prices in this area so what is left to sell for a recent speculator.

The sellers besides speculators would be just be things like Mt.Gox payments or government selling off seized coins.  However I do think there is enough buying to soak up most of a bearish trend, the bias is probably upwards at this moment.  At worst we are just to repeat prior months, mostly sideways.

This year I was expecting that we would see a main bull run later after halving, in winter, like we see traditionally but today the situation is absolutely different, we saw an all-time high of many coins very soon and the price has been increasing for months, good news after good news, now I can't imagine how long this bull market will last. At the moment, it looks like there is no place for bears and after so much positive news, I can't imagine what should happen to make people start selling.
What do you think, when will bears take advantage and start dominating the market? Is this bull run the major bull run that we will see till the next halving?