Topic: When you're winning it's fun but when you're losing it's addictive right? - page 2. (Read 381 times)

When someone plays a game be it a gambling game or any other game they aim to win because winning is the main objective of everyone in the game. But in the case of gambling, because if you win in gambling, you get a return of several times the amount of the bet, so winning in gambling is more fun than in ordinary games.

Yes I agree with you that when someone loses gambling and loses his money it hurts his emotions because he is losing the game here at the same time losing money due to which it makes him more stubborn and gambles more to recover his previous losses. for this reason his emotions force him and slowly he /she get addicted on gambling and loss more then past. this is the main danger of gambling

It turns out that even if someone wins at gambling, he still sacrifices some things. For example, time that he could spend doing physical exercise or relaxing. The gambler also sacrifices his attention to his family, because during the game he devotes himself only to the game, and ignores loved ones who want to communicate with him. 
This is especially harmful for communication with children.

That's huge, there is no joy in losing or I mean anyone will never feel happy when they lose money in any case. But it is a fact that gambling is about winning and losing, but that doesn't mean that when you lose you have to be upset, because of course losing is part of the game. This means that I understand that a winning situation is fun, but for gamblers who understand the opportunities and are aware of the risks, a losing situation doesn't mean it will make them completely upset or emotional, because the goal of gambling for fun is not the result but the process of playing the game, or Simply put, you can get pleasure when you enjoy the game without thinking or caring about the outcome, whether you win or lose.

On the other hand, you say that when you accidentally win at a type of game that you don't really like, then at that time you don't feel the real pleasure, meaning I would say that you are a gambler who comes with the intention and purpose of enjoying the process. and don't make the results at the end of the session your main priority or focus. This means that every gambler has his favorite type of game, but there are some gamblers who do not feel significant pleasure when their winnings result from another type of game that is not their favorite game, because the sensation produced by their favorite game is different from other games, and they are gamblers who really come to just enjoy the process without caring too much about winning or losing.

yeah, sadly a lot of people view addiction like this, when they only see an addicted gambler constantly winning they don't notice the other symptoms of gambling addiction or they just ignore it since the gambler is making money from gambling. once the gambler stops constantly winning and the gambler still continuously gambles more than usual they will now notice a lot of the symptoms of gambling addiction. in the end, people who are like this are just unaware of what gambling addiction is, this is also why it is important to teach and spread "gambling awareness programs" to make people realise what exactly is gambling addiction is.

Losing can also be addictive because some people lose continuously but they want to get back what they lost, and they will not stop until they win. And that accidentally pulls them into a spiral of addiction without them even realizing they are addicted to gambling.

I agree with lovemayfamilis that both can be addictive and it depends on the person. I feel that gambling has an extremely strange, indescribable and very difficult to resist appeal. If we are not alert enough and cannot control our emotions, we can fall into addiction at any time. Whether we win or lose, both will cause addiction if we do not know how to control ourselves.

No, you don’t have to win in gambling to have fun.

Once you’re able to realize that gambling is not meant for you to get rich (except for the few lucky ones) then you should be able to engage in it and don’t feel any type of pressure or tension when you’re playing and not winning - I have been gambling for some time now although I’m not consistent and each time I make a deposit in my account I make sure I enjoy each games that I play to the fullest, try out new strategies and also time myself to see which of my strategies will help me last more than my usual time before I finally lose everything or withdrawal whatever balance is left in it.

From what I just mentioned above, winning or losing no longer becomes a criterion for me to have fun, as long as I’m able to play the game and make sure not to refill my account when I’m done with my balance - that’s fun for me.

When the term gambling in moderation is introduced, it dos not mean that you gamble moderately when you are losing only, you apply that even when you are having wins because if you're excessive during the good days, that mindset would be rooted into you that you and it would turn into a reflex action that would be applied across all your gambling involvements.

Every gambling session should have a timing and you should train yourself to quit when your session time is up no matter the trend you are experiencing because if not strictly followed, the psychologic buildups of indiscipline in your gambling activities would sabotage you when the loosing streak hits you.

Whether good or bad, too much of everything always has a relatively bad effect in the long run.

Most people think so and I do believe it is natural because it is hard to say that we are having fun while we are losing.
For me, having fun is combination between enjoying the game that I like to play plus winning it.
I have to say that even if I accidentally win something on a game that I do not like, I cant really feel the fun.
When it comes to your title "losing = addictive", I'm not fully agree because I still believe that addiction comes from both winning and losing.

Whether you're winning or losing, both can be addictive if there is a habit that was developed along the line. Gambling frequently without control is addictive and even if a gambler is winning he is to be considered addictive if he consciously gambles without knowing when to quit. The mindset of someone losing so much in gambling to be seen as addicted is wrong. Let's consider gambling to be football, some people play football every day in my local area. I get to watch them sometimes. They don't stop playing football at all even if they are losing they keep playing and when they are winning as well they keep on playing. It is something that they are addicted to and they do not care about the cost (winning or losing). Any outcome they are still willing to continue the next day.

The fact is that you are likely to get a gambling addiction if you continue to have a good winning ratio; you will think that you can make a living from gambling, and you have a winning formula, so winning is fun and addictive.

Winning and losing is part of addiction if you are spending more time and money. you neglect the most important thing in life, and you exist to gamble, then you are addicted to gambling regardless if you're winning or losing; gamblers are not only attached to winning and losing but more to the feeling of getting rewarded on what they are doing, its the effect of dopamine, and the process of going through the cycle of winning and losing.

Nope. The reason why we get addicted is because we experience winning and think we can do it all the time. Because of that, we don't accept reality anymore. When we lose, we keep trying to win back our losses and be on the profit side because we are very confident in ourselves. Sometimes we don't consider our chances against the house, and we don't recognize the house edge. If we did, we would easily know that we have no chance of winning in the long run, even if the house only has a 1% edge. Our lack of discipline and wrong beliefs make us addicted.

Just imagine if you are new and don't experience beginner's luck, and you are on a losing streak. Do you think you can still be addicted knowing you almost have no chance of winning?

I think in both cases there is a little bit of slight difference, your parents where bent on you to study and for you to get good grace, in other words you were coerced to making sure your results in school are not bad, however in gambling addiction these are set of persons that have the free will to do whatever they choose to do without anybody putting a knife on their neck, so gambling is basically your free will for you to continue to do what you feel is good for yourself.

Addiction comes in when you don't understand how to control a habit that you've developed over time, most persons that are losing in gambling most times do continue to gamble with the sense that one day their luck will shine, so it's not only people that are winning that get addicted, even people that are serial losers do get addicted too.

You don't understand gambling and have little knowledge about it. If you think that way, you can enjoy gambling whether you lose or win, and you don't have to win just to have fun. The most important thing when you are playing in the casino is the process, not really the end results.

There are more chances of losing than winning in gambling and you have no control over the outcome what you have control over is your reaction and your decision so base your action on fact.

Gambling is a game and winning in a game often gives you immediate positive feedback, which is why it's addicting. It's pretty common when discussed about how ADHD (IIRC) perform better in games since there's an instantaneous reward given unlike exams where scores are given out a few minutes later, or even a day/days on bigger ones. The process is pretty similar ig in your example but still vastly different things imo. I mean, I reckon the majority of people don't get any dopamine studying so yeah.

But anyway in general I do agree that winning = fun. That doesn't mean that's there all to having fun. I don't agree though with the idea that if you're winning means it's not addiction and if you're losing it is though. Kind of sets a biased mindset around defending addiction.

It's no doubt if we will feels more fun if we win especially win much money. But unfortunately, not many times we can win in gambling instead just lose our money and make us depress and we wants to recover our lost money by keeps playing gambling. If we don't have good self control, we will becomes addicted to gambling and there is no way out from gambling if we don't realizes by ourselves.

If you compare gambling addiction and study addiction, that will be different because when you have gambling addiction, you can lose everything you have and that will be difficult to gets it back. If you have study addiction, you will have much knowledge that you can share to other people. You have a passion to know many things which can useful for your life and other people around you.

If you wins from gambling, there will be a passion to playing gambling more and more to wins more money. If you can't control that, you will addicted to gambling.

It's because you are taking more time chasing all your losses which is why losing can be a path to gambling addiction. The winners on the other hand have a different path because they have a choice to just stop and enjoy all the profits after the win, as long as it's enough to stop, a satisfying win.
But, let's not take out the possibility that winning can also be addictive because of greed. If we are a person who cannot be easily satisfied by a small amount of profits then we will just keep on gambling until we cannot even tell if we starting to be a gambling addict or not. I'd be careful with both paths and keep the discipline of staying on the budget.

That just another misconception. Addiction doesn't necessarily mean you are a loser in something or gambling then everyone looking down on you that you are an addicted gambler. A wainer can become addicted, and at this stage, you find him spend too much time in gambling activities when he has some other important values to add to the society and his family. He takes his main job lightly because his wins from gambling might be far bigger than what he receives as a salary. He is already addicted this way. Let's say for instance he fall by the way side and starts losing, such person will never be able to stop. He will keep trying until he eventually give back all what he wom from his long time gambling. That's addiction. So we shouldn't always look at addiction as something that there for the ones who doesn't make any profits or wins from their gambling activities. A winner can become addicted too.

Of course everyone likes to be successful and winning is being successfully, it gives you more joy and happiness. People around you will also benefit from the joy and when you are not having joy as to winning your games, some people cast aspersion.

However, I think addiction can be in both ways in winning and losing. The only difference in winning and being addicted is that you have something positive like proceed from the gambling to show for it. If you are winning and you keep playing while you don't find time to attend to other areas of your life then you are addicted to gambling. In such case where you are engrossed in the gambling because you are winning then you are addicted. Hey... But I prefer to be addicted and having proceed to show for it and solving my financial obligations instead of being a broke loser who is addicted and loans or gets to beg for financial support every time.

I think you're having a wrong perception of gambling addiction here. Gambling addiction is not about the outcome of your gambling, it doesn't matter whether you are winning or losing. The addiction is is related and seen in the behavior itself not by the result you get at the end of your gambling.

To put it straight, gambling addiction started the moment you start neglecting your responsibilities because of gambling. If a gambler can not control his gambling habits even if he is winning consistently, it's addiction. The only thing here is that if you are addicted but winning, your life will not be as miserable as it will be if you're addicted and losing at the same time.

Do you know someone can be addicted to gambling and still win in all these games. In gambling nobody cares how many games you have won so far or lose but what people are concern with is what would be your reaction when you don't  win and if my activity in gambling is affecting me so bad either financially or emotionally. Like if I play gambling everyday and I lose most times and I play with so much money and still I don't go broke or sell my properties just to play gambling, then it is good because my gambling style is not affecting money.

What we need to be concerned about is the harms, the negative effect of gambling and guild ourselves on how to go about it, gambling is not just about win and lose but how we react to it is the most important thing. When you are affected by the way you gamble and you can't do anything about it, then it can be additive. Losing is not additive because in gambling it is either a win or a lose.