Where are all the bitcoin's Moon boys ?

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Quote from: adzino on January 31, 2022, 03:50:18 PM

All those videos and posts are just clickbait titles to increase their views. When the price of bitcoin starts to increase, crypto currencies become a trending topic. Those "influencers" and video content creators take the opportunity to boost their views and channels. So they make those unrealistic prediction and videos because they know that people will click and watch those videos to remain hopeful. All those predictions are baseless and only for creating FOMO. Avoid them.

This, people need to think a little bit before they begin to follow the financial advise of someone that is just rambling on the internet, real money managers which can actually make money from the markets charge a lot of money for their advice, so with this in mind it is incredibly unlikely that someone on the internet looking for clicks and views has something worth to listen to.

Because if that was the case then soon enough he will join the ranks of those money managers and make a fortune for themselves and their clients, and since that is not the case for all of those influencers we can take an educated guess about their true level of knowledge when it comes to the markets in general.

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Quote from: adzino on January 31, 2022, 03:50:18 PM

All those videos and posts are just clickbait titles to increase their views. When the price of bitcoin starts to increase, crypto currencies become a trending topic. Those "influencers" and video content creators take the opportunity to boost their views and channels. So they make those unrealistic prediction and videos because they know that people will click and watch those videos to remain hopeful. All those predictions are baseless and only for creating FOMO. Avoid them.

The fact is that only a few content creators on YouTube create quality and informative content. Most content creators only think about how
they can increase the number of views of their videos, therefore we will find lots of clickbait titles on our YouTube homepage. Avoid watching
channels whose video creators don't have good analytical skills. Because I found quite a lot of channels on YouTube that predict the price of
Bitcoin without a clear basis. So content creators just give their audience what they want to hear, such as predicting an unrealistic Bitcoin price.
Because most newbies are easily influenced by unrealistic predictions, that's why when Bitcoin price is bullish, there are many Bitcoin price
prediction videos popping up.

This is not surprising because most of the youtubers are only after for their own personal gains and interests, as if they're sharing genuine knowledge but the fact is they are pulling us away from the reality in crypto. And newbies also believe in them because its the thing they want to hear and believe. And now, reality blows. Those bitcoin's moon boys have become mute since they have nothing to say anyway when the hardest part of crypto happens.

Actually it doesn't matter if youtubers are after profit, but at least they don't think only for their own personal gains. It means that they
as YouTubers must have a moral responsibility, not only looking for profit, but provide useful knowledge for others. Don't harm others
for their own gain. Finally, the Bitcoin moon boys who have sprung up on YouTube platforms when the bearish trend like now cannot
create content. It also makes them not profit when a bearish trend occurs, they should be youtubers who provide useful knowledge and
information for their viewers. So whether in a bullish or bearish situation, they will still benefit. The conclusion is that Bitcoin moon boys
will only benefit for a moment, they will not be able to make them successful YouTubers.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Don't worry mate they will Pop up again when the bull return so don't missed them so much Grin

Joking aside you can find most of them in Wall Observer thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wall-observer-btcusd-bitcoin-price-movement-tracking-discussion-178336 and yeah even in this bearish market they are still confident that Bitcoin will make a comeback very soon .

Also I am a Moon Boy but i also know the fact that volatility is the reason for all of these so I would rather wait than be eager to lose in the end .

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Quote from: Sanitough on February 01, 2022, 03:53:48 PM

Quote from: Shasha80 on February 01, 2022, 07:28:07 AM

Quote from: adzino on January 31, 2022, 03:50:18 PM

All those videos and posts are just clickbait titles to increase their views. When the price of bitcoin starts to increase, crypto currencies become a trending topic. Those "influencers" and video content creators take the opportunity to boost their views and channels. So they make those unrealistic prediction and videos because they know that people will click and watch those videos to remain hopeful. All those predictions are baseless and only for creating FOMO. Avoid them.

The fact is that only a few content creators on YouTube create quality and informative content. Most content creators only think about how
they can increase the number of views of their videos, therefore we will find lots of clickbait titles on our YouTube homepage. Avoid watching
channels whose video creators don't have good analytical skills. Because I found quite a lot of channels on YouTube that predict the price of
Bitcoin without a clear basis. So content creators just give their audience what they want to hear, such as predicting an unrealistic Bitcoin price.
Because most newbies are easily influenced by unrealistic predictions, that's why when Bitcoin price is bullish, there are many Bitcoin price
prediction videos popping up.

This is not surprising because most of the youtubers are only after for their own personal gains and interests, as if they're sharing genuine knowledge but the fact is they are pulling us away from the reality in crypto. And newbies also believe in them because its the thing they want to hear and believe. And now, reality blows. Those bitcoin's moon boys have become mute since they have nothing to say anyway when the hardest part of crypto happens.

Neither mute or does still have something to say on which you would really be seeing these words whenever there are sudden turn of events in the market.Most likely they will tell that it was already some correction

and its normal on a market which is true but those are actually some sort of reasoning on which those noobs would just simply believe on but for those who have experiences would just tell

these words on having a big NAH!!! in mind since we know on how reality works and these things wont affect us no matter how they would claim up something.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Personally, I think that some of the crypto analysts, or as you affectionately called them "moon boys", are just bloggers who earn both from watching their videos and promoting certain crypto projects or their referral links for profit. That is, there is nothing special in their reviews, but just a loud cry about flying to the moon. However, there are those who try to read the charts and the news background, which, according to their logic, is precisely the trigger for a trend change in the market. But unfortunately, as you clearly noted, they all say this when the price of crypto assets rises, but when prices go down, they take a vacation and wait for the trend to change again. So it is dangerous to believe these "moon boys", because they themselves do not really know anything, but simply express their point of view, which very often has nothing to do with reality.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on February 01, 2022, 07:28:07 AM

Quote from: adzino on January 31, 2022, 03:50:18 PM

All those videos and posts are just clickbait titles to increase their views. When the price of bitcoin starts to increase, crypto currencies become a trending topic. Those "influencers" and video content creators take the opportunity to boost their views and channels. So they make those unrealistic prediction and videos because they know that people will click and watch those videos to remain hopeful. All those predictions are baseless and only for creating FOMO. Avoid them.

The fact is that only a few content creators on YouTube create quality and informative content. Most content creators only think about how
they can increase the number of views of their videos, therefore we will find lots of clickbait titles on our YouTube homepage. Avoid watching
channels whose video creators don't have good analytical skills. Because I found quite a lot of channels on YouTube that predict the price of
Bitcoin without a clear basis. So content creators just give their audience what they want to hear, such as predicting an unrealistic Bitcoin price.
Because most newbies are easily influenced by unrealistic predictions, that's why when Bitcoin price is bullish, there are many Bitcoin price
prediction videos popping up.

This is not surprising because most of the youtubers are only after for their own personal gains and interests, as if they're sharing genuine knowledge but the fact is they are pulling us away from the reality in crypto. And newbies also believe in them because its the thing they want to hear and believe. And now, reality blows. Those bitcoin's moon boys have become mute since they have nothing to say anyway when the hardest part of crypto happens.

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I think nobody can predict exactly market condition. Because bitcoin is decentralization.Bitcoin price always dumps and pumps it will be never stable. Bitcoin decentralised digital crypto. Now bitcoin price little dip but bitcoin price already touched $65k+ in 2021.Many people interested in bitcoin investment i hope bitcoin will recover price this year.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

I think most of these people from the social media influencers and YouTubers does not focus on Bitcoin, instead they advertise and hype up alt coins.
We have seen a lot of them shilling so bad with the coins they are invested in.
And I guess there's no need for them to pump Bitcoin up because people trust Bitcoin enough and so without anything that hypes up in the media, Bitcoin can grow on its own.

Prime example of this is this - I see NasDaily advertising and trying to pump up SLP and AXS again as he made a content about an Axie player who became millionaire a couple of days ago, and guess what, his content is 6 months late during the boom of that specific NFT game.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on February 01, 2022, 07:28:07 AM

Quote from: adzino on January 31, 2022, 03:50:18 PM

All those videos and posts are just clickbait titles to increase their views. When the price of bitcoin starts to increase, crypto currencies become a trending topic. Those "influencers" and video content creators take the opportunity to boost their views and channels. So they make those unrealistic prediction and videos because they know that people will click and watch those videos to remain hopeful. All those predictions are baseless and only for creating FOMO. Avoid them.

The fact is that only a few content creators on YouTube create quality and informative content. Most content creators only think about how
they can increase the number of views of their videos, therefore we will find lots of clickbait titles on our YouTube homepage. Avoid watching
channels whose video creators don't have good analytical skills. Because I found quite a lot of channels on YouTube that predict the price of
Bitcoin without a clear basis. So content creators just give their audience what they want to hear, such as predicting an unrealistic Bitcoin price.
Because most newbies are easily influenced by unrealistic predictions, that's why when Bitcoin price is bullish, there are many Bitcoin price
prediction videos popping up.

That's expected, in order for them to make their youtube channels popular, they need to catch the attention of the people and that's only the information that people would be interested at, compared to bullish and bearish market, we know that people are more interested on hearing some bullish news.

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Quote from: adzino on January 31, 2022, 03:50:18 PM

All those videos and posts are just clickbait titles to increase their views. When the price of bitcoin starts to increase, crypto currencies become a trending topic. Those "influencers" and video content creators take the opportunity to boost their views and channels. So they make those unrealistic prediction and videos because they know that people will click and watch those videos to remain hopeful. All those predictions are baseless and only for creating FOMO. Avoid them.

The fact is that only a few content creators on YouTube create quality and informative content. Most content creators only think about how
they can increase the number of views of their videos, therefore we will find lots of clickbait titles on our YouTube homepage. Avoid watching
channels whose video creators don't have good analytical skills. Because I found quite a lot of channels on YouTube that predict the price of
Bitcoin without a clear basis. So content creators just give their audience what they want to hear, such as predicting an unrealistic Bitcoin price.
Because most newbies are easily influenced by unrealistic predictions, that's why when Bitcoin price is bullish, there are many Bitcoin price
prediction videos popping up.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

I do not agree with what you say. It is normal that there is even less talk about moon now given that the expectations for last year fell short and this year we have not started off very bullish. But I remember in the crypto winter that started in 2018, I was subscribed to some youtube channels and in the end I ended up unsubscribing because they kept talking about the price going up when it was clear that we were in a crypto winter and that until the next halving we were not going to beat ath.

And now something similar is happening. The other day I saw a video of CryptosRUs, and he was saying that despite the current price, he remains bullish etc.

So no, not all the Bitcoin moon boys have gone into hiding, they are less visible now, but there are still some.

On that note, I believe that even though the market is down I do agree with George "CryptosRUs" which I also follow on YT that some people are still Bullish regardless of Bitcoin price right now because of your buying point even though @Poker Player is right too because most of all this crypto YouTubers are noisier when the market is in the Green.

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All those videos and posts are just clickbait titles to increase their views. When the price of bitcoin starts to increase, crypto currencies become a trending topic. Those "influencers" and video content creators take the opportunity to boost their views and channels. So they make those unrealistic prediction and videos because they know that people will click and watch those videos to remain hopeful. All those predictions are baseless and only for creating FOMO. Avoid them.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Just ignore them & DCA slowly over many years. These guys are just really early adopters, most of them have no TA background. They don’t know how to read charts & analyse markets. Bitcoin doesn't behave like regular markets.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Some of the moon guys are still around, simply because they have built up large followings and are able to generate profit from that traffic - Bitboy Crypto being one example. I think, in fairness, being a moon boy has generally paid off given the exponential price rise of bitcoin since its inception. The issue is that the growth has tapered as the market has matured. The moon boys will be back every time the bull cycle returns.

I think the best YouTubers are the ones who are neutral on the market and predict the true picture of the market. Would anyone want to listen to youtuber who keeps on saying that bitcoin will pump while it is going in the opposite direction?

People listen to the people who more often accurately predict the market and it does not matter if the market dumps or pumps. Telling true technical knowledge is more important.

Honestly people wouldn't want to listen to the real market analysts because when they predict an impending bearish market based on their technical analysis, many people especially newbies wouldn't want to hear such a sad analysis, but always at easy with moon guys who are obviously after the traffic and number of views on youtube and their deceitful analysis always enjoy massive followership partly because a lot of newbies are having a mindset of getting rich quickly not minding any consequence of investing blindly

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Quote from: pushups44 on January 29, 2022, 09:15:32 PM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Some of the moon guys are still around, simply because they have built up large followings and are able to generate profit from that traffic - Bitboy Crypto being one example. I think, in fairness, being a moon boy has generally paid off given the exponential price rise of bitcoin since its inception. The issue is that the growth has tapered as the market has matured. The moon boys will be back every time the bull cycle returns.

I think the best YouTubers are the ones who are neutral on the market and predict the true picture of the market. Would anyone want to listen to youtuber who keeps on saying that bitcoin will pump while it is going in the opposite direction?

People listen to the people who more often accurately predict the market and it does not matter if the market dumps or pumps. Telling true technical knowledge is more important.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

They might be busy in crying out in a corner. Obviously nobody can predict the market accurately.
The Youtubers and the moon boys would not have expected the crash and so they would not be coming into the limelight these days.
But at the same time, there are also people who say "I told you bitcoin would crash" when the market is dumping and then vanish when the market goes green.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Yes, that's actually the reality we face it we has been affected by FOMO, influencers like that are bad influencers who actually bought the coin during sideways or dumps and then promoted the coin until it pumped and hype then sold it to take profit and then silent during the dump because inaccurate predictions. I've had this happen several times with influencers like that which made me try to research the project I want to invest in and read the market situation to avoid loss

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

That is it, whenever the market starts to increase, you will see everybody will turn out to become an analyst, and start predicting things that will never even happen. Some of them will start telling you that the market will reach $1,000,000 before it will drop, but all these things are lies and never happens. Only people who truly knows what they are doing are the ones that understands that these people are just liars, and they know nothing at all about where the price is moving to.

Some of them just start predicting rubbish out of excitement, not that they know it,. That’s how they end up misleading those who have no knowledge of how cryptocurrency works at all into investing at the wrong time.

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Quote from: virasog on January 29, 2022, 01:49:29 AM

The market isn't recovering as it moves a one to two thousand value up and then again dump. For the market to become a bit bullish bitcoin need to close a day or two above 40-41K.
Secondly, there are only few 'Dark Boys' who spread negatively or tell the bearish targets. People only want to listen to the bullish news hence they love moon boys only.

People are fond of always wanting to hear only the positive news. Even when they’re know deep down in themselves that the market is going to be bearish, they still find it difficult to accept the fact that we are in a bearish trend. They just want to hear that news that there will be a bull run again, over and over, but that is not the truth. So, they end up lying to themselves and investing wrongly.

Since majority of the people wants to be lied to, this is never going to stop, those moon boys will still continue to predict that there will be a bull run soon, and they will keep doing this for like two to three years coming, and when there finally becomes a bull run. Why some of us have already accepted it that they bull run is over, and we’ll have to wait like three or four years from now to see the next one take place again.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Some of the moon guys are still around, simply because they have built up large followings and are able to generate profit from that traffic - Bitboy Crypto being one example. I think, in fairness, being a moon boy has generally paid off given the exponential price rise of bitcoin since its inception. The issue is that the growth has tapered as the market has matured. The moon boys will be back every time the bull cycle returns.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

They only want profits or say views to attract new followers to their side by printing more of analysis saying it will go up so invest but they don't have any idea about anything but as you say when they see market reacting to opposite direction they evade from the scenes so they don't get interaction with them later on.This is not new thing at all and speaking truly we don't need to give them any importance at all and end up their fake business.

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That is what we ex[ect for only something hype. But those who love Bitcoin exactly will not pay attention to them, to how they advertise Bitcoin and how they bring the hype so highly. We all know that Bitcoin has value and now the market is still crashed. Never blame everyone. Just be patient and wait for the turn of Bitcoin. It may not be easy but we must only do it.
I am sure that everyone doesn't know the future what will be going on. Moreover, when they promote something, they will make it as high as possible when in the hype.
So, don't put your eyes and thought on them because their focus is different.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on January 29, 2022, 04:50:32 PM

Giving 100% trust on someone isnt really recommended on the first place but if you do and then experienced out those worst scenario or situations then this is where you do learn up some experience which pretty sure that you would really be aware on next time and able to avoid it whenever you do encounter it again.

Being optimistic isnt bad and also as a person which we do have the rights on expressing out ourselves whether the market is on bull or bearish position.It just it isnt really not right to
give out guarantees on where price would be going because this market is never been predictable in the first place.

Moonboys could really make out some full u-turn whenever they do see the market is doing opposite on what they are shilling in.

Even if we look at their references, it is still the research that will determine in the end. and I totally agree with what you say because it's not good if we just rely on our beliefs 100 percent to others.
even though they are reliable but still they are human beings that there will be a time when the analysis they do can be wrong.
I personally do still see some of them for now but not to rely on them but to compare what I researched whether the results will be the same as others so I can be more confident with my choice

if you've been here long enough, you will understand that basically they are just also speculating to what they think will happen in the market, according to TAs or their experience combined. being human as they are, they are also prone to miscalculations and all. so at the end of the day, if you are talking about your hard-earned money, it is still on you how you will manage your funds. they may serve as a guide but the final decision should still be yours.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on January 29, 2022, 01:25:49 PM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

They were just using the hype surrounding cryptocurrencies to their advantage and now that things are not going so well they are hiding as there is nothing else for them to say.

This is why it is a waste of time to follow people like that, they are not really offering you any advice that is worth your time since what they describe is something that anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see on their own, with the advantage that you do not need to watch a 20 minutes video promoting their stuff, so if you can stay away from those channels as they are complete garbage anyway.

We can't say that or they are buying more coins and using them to manipulate the market later. We can't see their plan or have the idea about it but for sure these people aren't leaving yet, they still watching the market and executing their plan one day. I know how much we feel bad about them but apparently, they are still a part of the market, they are also investors which they have the freedom to do what they want.

We can't hold them and besides, we are sometimes happy with their existence as the moment they got hyped the market, we are also benefiting from it.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Yes, that could be their reason. Lesson learned, we should take it easy when it comes to introducing a project to someone else not unless maybe if your intention is to shill a scam coin because you wont care if what can happen next and it will be easy for you to abandon your social media accounts.

When the market is pumping, everyone is excited, this is why it is easy to encourage someone to invest because they also wanted to feel the same as the others that have already harvest their profits. There is nothing bad with that mindset but its better if they can keep something for themselves, I mean do not give your 100 percent trust.

Giving 100% trust on someone isnt really recommended on the first place but if you do and then experienced out those worst scenario or situations then this is where you do learn up some experience which pretty sure that you would really be aware on next time and able to avoid it whenever you do encounter it again.

Being optimistic isnt bad and also as a person which we do have the rights on expressing out ourselves whether the market is on bull or bearish position.It just it isnt really not right to
give out guarantees on where price would be going because this market is never been predictable in the first place.

Moonboys could really make out some full u-turn whenever they do see the market is doing opposite on what they are shilling in.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Yes, that could be their reason. Lesson learned, we should take it easy when it comes to introducing a project to someone else not unless maybe if your intention is to shill a scam coin because you wont care if what can happen next and it will be easy for you to abandon your social media accounts.

When the market is pumping, everyone is excited, this is why it is easy to encourage someone to invest because they also wanted to feel the same as the others that have already harvest their profits. There is nothing bad with that mindset but its better if they can keep something for themselves, I mean do not give your 100 percent trust.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

They were just using the hype surrounding cryptocurrencies to their advantage and now that things are not going so well they are hiding as there is nothing else for them to say.

This is why it is a waste of time to follow people like that, they are not really offering you any advice that is worth your time since what they describe is something that anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see on their own, with the advantage that you do not need to watch a 20 minutes video promoting their stuff, so if you can stay away from those channels as they are complete garbage anyway.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

I do not agree with what you say. It is normal that there is even less talk about moon now given that the expectations for last year fell short and this year we have not started off very bullish. But I remember in the crypto winter that started in 2018, I was subscribed to some youtube channels and in the end I ended up unsubscribing because they kept talking about the price going up when it was clear that we were in a crypto winter and that until the next halving we were not going to beat ath.

And now something similar is happening. The other day I saw a video of CryptosRUs, and he was saying that despite the current price, he remains bullish etc.

So no, not all the Bitcoin moon boys have gone into hiding, they are less visible now, but there are still some.

It would be pretty dumb to express that Bitcoin (or any other cryptocurrency) is going to the moon, when the market has been crashing for the past weeks or even months. No one will take you seriously, which is expected.

I'm generally reserved when reading such predictions and generally don't follow any of those influencers or market researchers. It's a highly volatile market and I'm not anticipating anyone successfully predicting any future movement.

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I think it's a part of the general problem that was recently discussed in another thread.
Namely, people are very interested and excited to invest in Bitcoin when it's expensive, and then they forget about it every time it loses a significant amount of value. So influencers, who are most interested in getting views and thus monetization and getting paid for ads, are not motivated to say that Bitcoin will rise again and people should buy the dip because the interest of the audience isn't there. At least, that's one possible explanation.

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Some of them disappear, but quite a lot are still active and are posting possible targets and predictions that they have for short term and long term. Only a handful of people I know are delusional of bitcoin thinking that it's still going up despite the market showing signs that it is up for a rough ride (Tommy Lee, ehem).

Some of these youtubers you speak of even help their audience discern what is best for their money and tell them not to go 100% on bitcoin at times. The ones who are leaving the scene when the going gets rough are those bots or creators milking a bull run when it's still on.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

I do not agree with what you say. It is normal that there is even less talk about moon now given that the expectations for last year fell short and this year we have not started off very bullish. But I remember in the crypto winter that started in 2018, I was subscribed to some youtube channels and in the end I ended up unsubscribing because they kept talking about the price going up when it was clear that we were in a crypto winter and that until the next halving we were not going to beat ath.

And now something similar is happening. The other day I saw a video of CryptosRUs, and he was saying that despite the current price, he remains bullish etc.

So no, not all the Bitcoin moon boys have gone into hiding, they are less visible now, but there are still some.

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the content they present is very simple, it's just that the intonation when they deliver is able to convince the audience who incidentally is still a beginner, even the tutors shown are only from up-and-coming market conditions, so don't be surprised if the market is falling like now they are not able to provide tutors to wake up because I also believe they are part of the victim's own theory which is also sometimes inconsequential.
so actually with the presence of this forum there are many benefits from various discussions about market developments under any conditions.

what you say is true but the influencers are not to blame in its entirety.
because the content presented is in accordance with the title or thumbnail provided by the creator, besides that it only displays something useful and doesn't even force anyone to do it like the tutorial.
but we must be wise and smart in drawing conclusions in seeing tutors about trading, so as not to feel disappointed and then blaspheme them.
assume their abilities are limited.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Lolz. That is somehow true idk. Even twitter is always flooded with the same strategy. In the downtime twitter does show some good signs of buying in this dip sort of tweets however they are not as trendy as youtube video would be. So yup, missing out the moon boys is realistic here. In joke way I believe that they themselves might be helping to recover their own losses.

Anyways, getting influence by these peeps and then investing or trading your money is not that much rightful. Honestly, this market is not meant for that. Its free market, you should choose your own assets and goals here. Since this is off the chart unstable market the risk is truly ours, whether to put up the money in the market or not?

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Just a couple of days ago, saw one of those moonbois (no need to mention names, I unfortunately have to come across them daily because of my work) put out a Tweet saying something like "If you can't stand to lose 50% in a week you don't deserve to be a millionaire". Something like this.

So they're definitely nursing some pains, and fielding in the hurt. Just another day in the life of a cycler.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

This group of people are complete novices in this field. Influencers are not all stupid, but the majority of those who are promoting cryptocurrency are extremely stupid; they are the moon boys, to put it mildly. Find someone who has been working in this field for a long period of time. This type of person will be able to tell you more when the bitcoin is in red, and they will also tell you that history will repeat itself. Those moon boys are afraid of the red days, so they will either hide or say nothing because they are not knowledgeable when the chart is red.

They are acting stupid because from that they can hype people, this is normal since they always want to get profits from theirselves so don't expect them to act professional and tell the truth towards the current score on the market. Maybe they are hiding but provably they are just waiting for some opportunity for them to earn back even we are in red days.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on January 23, 2022, 07:09:48 AM

I personally for the current situation I don't need it because bitcoin is not easy to predict, maybe their previous content was wrong to predict which made them choose to be silent.
even if there were they would definitely suggest "HODL" so it's the same because neither I nor anyone else would choose that option and I never see or follow them because I have my own goals and predictions which I find better and more comfortable.

Predictions are just what it means........ Predictions, don't expect them to be 100% accurate, people just use the situation of the market to say what they think will happen in so and so time, it doesn't necessarily mean that's what actually going to happen,

Most predictions are made out of excitement about the market price movement, and once the market is down most of those making these predictions are probably not too motivated to give any prediction until the market has reversed, although I think it is fun to see different predictions but shouldn't be taken as financial advice, every investor should be able to have their own set goal to achieve.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

This group of people are complete novices in this field. Influencers are not all stupid, but the majority of those who are promoting cryptocurrency are extremely stupid; they are the moon boys, to put it mildly. Find someone who has been working in this field for a long period of time. This type of person will be able to tell you more when the bitcoin is in red, and they will also tell you that history will repeat itself. Those moon boys are afraid of the red days, so they will either hide or say nothing because they are not knowledgeable when the chart is red.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

It seems that you looks like asking for the FUDders when the Market is Booming ? this same scenario when the FUD spreading stops when the Bull Market comes and we are calling them but no one comes around .
now that the situation is changing course so the Moon Boys are keeping their silence though We can see in Wall Observer thread that the Moon boys are still active though slowly accepting this scenario as a Bear market.
meaning it is acceptable that when the market is bulling the positive people are circling and it will go opposite ways when the Bear is on the board.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

or maybe they're waiting for some sort of information from experts when it comes the market reason they don't have content on these situation..lol because to be honest i don't believe that they are experts when it comes making prediction about the market wherein for sure they just making content about it in order to get attention in the internet because indeed crypto is getting popular nowadays so its not surprising most influencer didn't exist when there's a bad situation and they come up only once there's a good news just to get more views and etc.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

You cannot call them Moonboys anymore if they will appear now? as this is a Darkboys time to bring more fud and scenario that will bring more negative and panic to weak investors Grin

and also their prediction is for the positivity and they know that in times like this they cannot help anyone but will only bring irritation for many.

but look at the market now as recovering? later you'll see them back lol.

The market isn't recovering as it moves a one to two thousand value up and then again dump. For the market to become a bit bullish bitcoin need to close a day or two above 40-41K.
Secondly, there are only few 'Dark Boys' who spread negatively or tell the bearish targets. People only want to listen to the bullish news hence they love moon boys only.

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actually they are boys on youtube who often appear on youtube when the bitcoin market price is bullrunning and disappear when the market price is bearish, they are only limited to joining in to convey the current market price because many viewers are enthusiastic to see many bitcoin investors who being successful. whereas when the market price fell they did not dare to convey information about bitcoin, because the boy was not an analyst for the future bitcoin market price.

Most youtubers are only focused on finding viewers, so when Bitcoin rises above $60k, there are a lot of videos on YouTube that talk about Bitcoin.
Because it must be admitted when a bullish trend occurs, Bitcoin has always had a lot of fans, so a lot of youtubers are taking advantage of it.
This means that very few YouTubers really want to educate people about Bitcoin, this does sound sad. But the reality is like that, many people are
willing to do anything now in order to attract viewers, although he does not have the ability to analyze Bitcoin movements. So it's not surprising
for me when the bearish trend is happening right now, many Bitcoin moon boys either suddenly disappear or move on to other things. Therefore
when I watch videos on YouTube, I always make sure these YouTubers do have good knowledge and experience about the crypto world.
I don't want to watch videos that provide useless or misleading information.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

This is common in all influencers, youtubers or those who are involved in the world of social networks, in fact there are many people who always make trading operations taking into account what they see and hear, but none dares to generate news before that a movement occurs, whenever the movements occur they release the news, and many times that is not the main reason for it, I take these effects as a possible style of manipulation, that is why if I trade, I do the analysis without watching the news and without contaminating my thoughts with what others think, after I make the decision I place my order and then if I see the news, if I see that there is a fundamental piece of news that will obviously affect it, then I can react to the market, which if it gives me time to react because I always trade long term.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

It's okay if they don't come out when the market is not looking good. It's not really a matter if they face or not and we know that if we're talking about social media personalities that are making contents about cryptocurrencies.

They're on it for the content. And that's why they're just talking just to make the use of their time for the contents that they make. Anyway, it's always like this, when the market is in bull run, everybody loves cryptocurrencies and when it's not, it's the opposite.

Because when the market is bullish like the previous year where the Bitcoin price almost reached $70k, many people are interested in talking about it
and it is easier to attract ordinary people to like cryptocurrencies. Because it must be admitted that most people really panic and stress if a bear
market occurs like now, and it's usually better to talk about other things and do other activities to forget for a moment what's happening in
the crypto market right now. So that's probably the reason social media influencers choose not to create content about the bearish trend,
because not many people will be interested in crypto when it is bearish, because the main goal of influencers is usually to attract people to invest
in crypto. Creating content about bearish trends only makes people more afraid to invest in crypto, so not many influencers want to create content
about the bearish trend. In fact, if we study crypto well, the bearish trend is a good opportunity to buy crypto. That's another reason why more
newbies end up buying crypto at peak prices. Because most ordinary people are interested in investing in crypto when influencers tell positive things
about crypto only.

It's the same like in 2017, when the market is bullish, everyone gets excited and interested for bitcoin because they smell money. But it's a wrong strategy for them to get in when the peak is there.

They should make themselves a plan if they want to invest to bitcoin. It should be during the price falls and not only when it's going up in the sky high.

They're making a huge mistake from doing that and that results to a wrong decision which makes them hate the market because they're losing.

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I personally for the current situation I don't need it because bitcoin is not easy to predict, maybe their previous content was wrong to predict which made them choose to be silent.
even if there were they would definitely suggest "HODL" so it's the same because neither I nor anyone else would choose that option and I never see or follow them because I have my own goals and predictions which I find better and more comfortable.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

You cannot call them Moonboys anymore if they will appear now? as this is a Darkboys time to bring more fud and scenario that will bring more negative and panic to weak investors Grin

and also their prediction is for the positivity and they know that in times like this they cannot help anyone but will only bring irritation for many.

but look at the market now as recovering? later you'll see them back lol.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on January 22, 2022, 10:13:49 PM

They are seasonal moon boys LOL. Do you think they really care about Bitcoin or Bitcoin price? I don't think so. They just need to view as much as possible, so they could earn revenue from ads. Those are real moon boys they are still in Bitcoin and accumulating in a dip like Microstrategy or El Salvador president. This is the real-time to invite nearest investing on Bitcoin. Because the current dip is 2x lower than ATH the chances of loss are very low. We shouldn't expect the dump to continue and should start to recover from this zone.

That's the reason why I don't follow seasonal moon boys. It's not even worth watching their video. I just watch sometimes video-related technical issues. And yea, they will pop up again once BTC will start recover. That's the reason why people lose funds by watching YouTube videos.

I think it freaks them out, so they don't calm down enough to think about bitcoin content, or maybe they really don't care because they just make videos for their own sake, without getting into the world of bitcoin. I agree with you, although not all of them are like that but most of the content creators or whatever they are called are around when bitcoin recovers. Yes, they don't think about their followers. They only think of themselves.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

I don't know, how it becomes an unrealistic prediction!!

Every trader and hodler said that Bitcoin will cross the previous ATH after halving, is that unrealistic?
They said Bitcoin can surpass the Gold marketcap, is that unrealistic?
they predict Bitcoin will touch $60K by end of 2021, is that unrealistic?

which one is unrealistic I don't actually get that.

Bitcoin is not one direction financial system that goes only upward all time, correction is also a part of the system you have to consider it.

Currently, I placed my buy order from $35K to $20K. if it will go below $20K probably I will be out of funds. And I will Hodl till next Bull run. Throw out your emotions and be realistic.

The OP must have bought following the hype and failed to realize that the market is not one-sided as you rightly pointed out. Some traders only want to see an uptrend and when there is any correction, there is a problem, and stop blaming people for your actions, traders should make their own decision from what they see in the market that is if they have learned anything about the market that is.

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Quote from: DanWalker on January 22, 2022, 12:41:32 PM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

I don't know, how it becomes an unrealistic prediction!!

Every trader and hodler said that Bitcoin will cross the previous ATH after halving, is that unrealistic?
They said Bitcoin can surpass the Gold marketcap, is that unrealistic?
they predict Bitcoin will touch $60K by end of 2021, is that unrealistic?

which one is unrealistic I don't actually get that.

Who told that bitcoin will touch 60K by end of 2021? Almost all of them were predicting bitcoin over 100,000 to 150,000K by the end of the year. The point here is that they give so much high targets that people are unable to exit at the right time.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

content creators want traffic from views. so naturally they make content like that, even when bitcoin go down there is still many make negative news and spread FUD. Basically, not all content creators have the purpose of educating, many are only focused on getting traffic.

So by telling that the next target of bitcoin can be near 30,000K or telling bear targets will not gain them traffic ?

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Who can bear hearing these people talk and scream with those cringe graphics and thumbnails, I'll never understand.

Then again, you would not find a lot of exclusively "Bitcoin" moonboys on these social media channels. Most of them are basically peddling alt-coins and projects. Giving overly optimistic targets is their way to grab more eyeballs and get paid a higher "influencer fee".

Let us hope that by the time this cycle recedes, enough people would have learnt their lessons about influencers on crypto and youtube. They are the vultures. And don't get fooled by bot accounts and farm accounts posting "positive" stories for 1 dollar a post.

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Quote from: DanWalker on January 22, 2022, 12:41:32 PM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

I don't know, how it becomes an unrealistic prediction!!

Every trader and hodler said that Bitcoin will cross the previous ATH after halving, is that unrealistic?
They said Bitcoin can surpass the Gold marketcap, is that unrealistic?
they predict Bitcoin will touch $60K by end of 2021, is that unrealistic?

which one is unrealistic I don't actually get that.

Bitcoin is not one direction financial system that goes only upward all time, correction is also a part of the system you have to consider it.

Currently, I placed my buy order from $35K to $20K. if it will go below $20K probably I will be out of funds. And I will Hodl till next Bull run. Throw out your emotions and be realistic.

While I understand your point of view, predictions aren't always accurate, and usually, they are out of touch. Let me point out that a large amount of people actually believed that the $100.000 mark was plausible within 2021. When I pointed out that it's highly unlikely and unrealistic, a lot of people were pissed and said otherwise.

Don't get me wrong, I believe that the market will recover eventually, but it'll definitely take time.

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They are seasonal moon boys LOL. Do you think they really care about Bitcoin or Bitcoin price? I don't think so. They just need to view as much as possible, so they could earn revenue from ads. Those are real moon boys they are still in Bitcoin and accumulating in a dip like Microstrategy or El Salvador president. This is the real-time to invite nearest investing on Bitcoin. Because the current dip is 2x lower than ATH the chances of loss are very low. We shouldn't expect the dump to continue and should start to recover from this zone.

That's the reason why I don't follow seasonal moon boys. It's not even worth watching their video. I just watch sometimes video-related technical issues. And yea, they will pop up again once BTC will start recover. That's the reason why people lose funds by watching YouTube videos.

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They're still here, they're just low key and they don't want to make any more wrong moves because they will only dig their graves right now if they ever continue doing so because they've been wrong about the pump in the prices so what's the point of talking right now when they know that they're more likely to get the wrong speculation.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

I guess they are retired temporarily in this bear trend and enjoy their money from their channel and wait for the next bull trend to make another video that will attract people to come back to the market. You do not have to pay attention to them as they only show or create videos based on the current situations and besides that, they do not always give the right videos so you need to be careful of that. I do not blame them or think much about them as I do not watch their videos too often and if somehow I find the videos about the bullshit, I will skip it and move to the next videos. We should filter what we watch so we do not watch the wrong videos.

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Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

This is normal, most of them are going with the hype, if bullish, I believe that's the time to Bitcoin will get more attention or other cryptocurrencies, that's why other influencers are extremely active during bull run because they know that they will get more people for their content.
So, that's why I am really hats off for those people who are still active even bear market, whatever market we have bullish or bearish they are still into it, that's what you call passion and commitment.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Please know that they are only doing it for views since it's kinda job for them and I don't think they would allow any negative reaction if they do something that they aren't good that would eventually lead them to loss and probably would lose some of their followers too.

They would rather choose silence than show something that they aren't good enough and trust me, once there's a pump they will all going to make a scene. It's just like they are hodling instead of panic selling and I think there are influencers out there too who encourage us to hodl instead of panic selling since this is just a temporary drop or they rather buy the dip.

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Most influencers just take advantage of every bullish situation and stay silent when their analysis goes wrong and enters a bear market.
they only create content for their own benefit. some influencers do have good skills in trading, but most of them only capitalize on the followers they have.

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Quote from: Yogee on January 22, 2022, 05:58:44 PM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

....Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.

You already described them as "moon boys" so what do you expect them to say or do on a downtrend? Most of them would probably say "HODL" to save their faces or stay silent while relaxing counting their fiat and stable coins.

Would be just using up our common sense then those moonboys would definitely be having that reason on telling that we should HODL and buy when its cheap since this might be the last time
we would seeing these prices.
They would really be having always something to say whether the market would be on bullish or bearish trend.So its better not to mind on what they should gonna say
because no matter what the condition would be then there would be always a word about it.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

....Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.

You already described them as "moon boys" so what do you expect them to say or do on a downtrend? Most of them would probably say "HODL" to save their faces or stay silent while relaxing counting their fiat and stable coins.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 22, 2022, 05:34:45 PM

Most of the viewers are bullish, they will lose their viewers if they change their views on crypto. They would rather keep it silent, or focus on the bright side, like the news and rumors that will make the market bullish again. I know that some views maybe feed up with some bullish information, but they'll get discouraged eventually if that does not result in a positive market movement especially if they don't follow understand the market volatility and is not patient enough to hold.

Well the reason could be a busher because it turns out that they are a liar after the becomes bullish prediction where the fact bitcoin is unpredictable price.
All they know is to make content for their viewers if they will create content for bearish trend, there are a lot of questions from those who did not understand so I think they prefer to choose to become silent than making any noise while the market experiences downtrend.
But who cares about them --we know how bitcoin will work we don't need those moon boys because we understand the market perfectly.

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Most of the viewers are bullish, they will lose their viewers if they change their views on crypto. They would rather keep it silent, or focus on the bright side, like the news and rumors that will make the market bullish again. I know that some views maybe feed up with some bullish information, but they'll get discouraged eventually if that does not result in a positive market movement especially if they don't follow understand the market volatility and is not patient enough to hold.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

That's to show you that they just analyze what come into their minds, actually you are making a positive sense independence that Bitcoin prediction is not paramount, we have to believe and also come to conclusion that the price of Bitcoin can not be known by someone else, i kept on emphasising on it, because i denotes that bitcoin is specifically occur in regulations of price through demand and supply, Which is very obvious to everyone due to the market determination process.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Well, crypto market is unpredictable, so no one can really foresee accurately what is going to happen next. Youtubers should let it very clear to their audience in every videos they make, so they wouldn't be blamed by the public during times like this. The point is that some of these social influencers are greedy and make claims about the future of cryptocurrencies as they could predict the future in order to pass confidence to the viewers who will start following their steps, signing up through their referral links in different sites and depositing money where they are advised to.

Then when the market crashes, people really get mad on them, as they are seen as crypto fluctuations' specialists (as something like this really existed). To avoid being trashed on the internet, there is no other option besides stepping aside.

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Quote from: sunsilk on January 22, 2022, 04:35:50 PM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

It's okay if they don't come out when the market is not looking good. It's not really a matter if they face or not and we know that if we're talking about social media personalities that are making contents about cryptocurrencies.

They're on it for the content. And that's why they're just talking just to make the use of their time for the contents that they make. Anyway, it's always like this, when the market is in bull run, everybody loves cryptocurrencies and when it's not, it's the opposite.

Because when the market is bullish like the previous year where the Bitcoin price almost reached $70k, many people are interested in talking about it
and it is easier to attract ordinary people to like cryptocurrencies. Because it must be admitted that most people really panic and stress if a bear
market occurs like now, and it's usually better to talk about other things and do other activities to forget for a moment what's happening in
the crypto market right now. So that's probably the reason social media influencers choose not to create content about the bearish trend,
because not many people will be interested in crypto when it is bearish, because the main goal of influencers is usually to attract people to invest
in crypto. Creating content about bearish trends only makes people more afraid to invest in crypto, so not many influencers want to create content
about the bearish trend. In fact, if we study crypto well, the bearish trend is a good opportunity to buy crypto. That's another reason why more
newbies end up buying crypto at peak prices. Because most ordinary people are interested in investing in crypto when influencers tell positive things
about crypto only.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

It's okay if they don't come out when the market is not looking good. It's not really a matter if they face or not and we know that if we're talking about social media personalities that are making contents about cryptocurrencies.

They're on it for the content. And that's why they're just talking just to make the use of their time for the contents that they make. Anyway, it's always like this, when the market is in bull run, everybody loves cryptocurrencies and when it's not, it's the opposite.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 22, 2022, 03:26:13 PM

All of them are bullish, they cannot make money when the market is bearish

i am a bitcoin hoarder. i can many money when its bullish.. but i can also make money when its bearish

first you have to define money(bitcoin and fiat are both currencies)

for me i have funds on both currencies..

my btc increases in value in a bull.. my btc increases in amount in a bear
my fiat increases in amount in a bull.. my fiat increases in value in a bear

there is opportunity in both sides especially if you have value on both sides to take opportunities

you can flip the mindset and stop imagining you can only "buy" from one and "sell" from the other. once you start to pretend that bitcoin is the legal tender and fiat is a asset. where you flip the terminology. then you too can see the dynamic change.

when the 'price is high'
sell bitcoin to get more fiat.
buy more fiat using bitcoin

when the 'price is low'
sell fiat to get more bitcoin.
buy more bitcoin using fiat

and thus take advantage in both directions

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Speaking of Moon, who noticed that the Moon Carl, a top crypto-currency influencer has changed his Twitter handle to The floor, I guess the dip has supprised everyone, well I never counted on their prediction, I only saw them as hustlers working for their pockets so nothing surprises. I would just advice newbies to avoid FUD and FOMO this period because we would have alot of it, especially coming from low market cap project, always do your research.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

^ We don't really know what is the reason but I think creating content is what they need and I think for them, the bearish market will become subscriber becomes panic. There is no accurate prediction ever, those experts claiming themselves are not really an expert, they are a part of social media destruction, and giving unrealistic predictions is pretty normal for them. So I think the right decision is never to listen to these streamers at all.

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All of them are bullish, they cannot make money when the market is bearish as dump people are not investing money. If they will continue to talk despite the dump, they will only make mistakes, so they better choose to shut up and wait for the current situation or the market to turn bullish again.

Their job is just to create hype, not to create panic.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on January 22, 2022, 03:08:13 PM

..., you are their revenue source.

Exactly.

Bitcoin is created for the long term. We have a target of use and not a price target.

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The permabulls are still saying that it's just a dip, the hype content creators are saying that crypto is done for, real analysts are trying to make their own predictions. It should be a common sense to not take investment advice from content creators, because you are not their client, you are their revenue source.

And with Bitcoin you can at least hodl and have a very high chance of making profit in the long run, as long as you can sustain your unrealized losses. But with shitcoins you will never make a profit once they start dumping.

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That could be dangerous advice. There is an old saying, never try to catch a falling knife, it will cut you going down (hard). Meaning if you buy at 35K and it drops to below 10K, you will kick yourself for taking a huge loss.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

easy answer is. when people want to sell. they are trying to then coax in buyers. so when the price goes up the sellers want to get the price as high as possible.
when the price goes down they shut up.

you can spot these guys very easily. if they are telling you to buy while its 'green (going up) its because they are ready to exit.

i am a hoarder i have no intension to sell. so i happily tell people when the price is going down that its DISCOUNT where buyers can buy coins cheaper.

however those wanting to sell wont influence people about times of discount to buy, and instead only influence people when the price is going premium.

so the smart advice. never listen to people telling to you buy the hype(pump). listen to people telling you to buy the dip(dump)

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

You would really get ashamed whenever you do let yourself out and told them about positivity whenever there are some serious dump in the market which I couldn't really that blame off those moon boys out there to have these kind of feelings.

We do have our own will and mindset to tell up things since this is a speculative market since from the start which you are fully aware on what would be the thing could happen along the way.
We don't need some motivation from those people yet its better not to anticipate or do look for those people yet its normal that each one of us
does have their own words and views towards market.

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The bullish excitement is not only limited to YouTube, but other social media platforms as well. Periods of booming market is the time when most people get interested in crypto and traffic on social platforms and even on forums like this one greatly increases, those "influencers" simply just follow the hype and use it to the advantage, talking about what coin would do 100× in 2 hours.

When the price drops and people lose interest somewhat, those left in the space are either seasoned crypto enthusiasts or holders who regret not selling earlier. This reduces the audience for such moon posts and the accounts hibernate or change strategy. The dip period also does the job of filtering out social influencers without actual content.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

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Hours before your post ...

Quote from: mynonce on January 22, 2022, 06:38:34 AM

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Year 2030:

Most of the guys who are active here from 2020-21 would tell you similar stories. From my part, I first invested in Bitcoin in 2021. Back then I had purchased BTC at $60,000 per coin (a few months later, the rates dropped to $30,000 per coin). There were some isolated threads in this forum back then, claiming that BTC would hit $1 million or even $10 million in the future, but hardly anyone took them seriously. Me too, never thought that it was realistic. The good thing is that I still have a small part of what I purchased in 2021 remaining in my wallet. I know a lot of people who sold all of their coins within a few years. Can't blame them, right?

Thanks to Sithara007

The message is still valid.

The Moon boys were here 10 years ago, now you have Moon men ... they became great.

Btw.: $30,000 as the bottom can change, but the target remains ... mark the words of the Moon men.

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Interesting question but as you said, they are missing and still undetected till date Cheesy

but this is natural, they are content creators who will make anything to create an account on platforms, whether YouTube or others, up, both in traffic and finances there.
but when things like this of course they will not make stupid things, because indeed they will not dig their own graves with the speculations they say of course

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

Moon talk is seasonal, you should know that already Wink

when the market is green they talk moon, when the market is red they talk bottom, it is that simple, lol, truth is emotions are very high now, so YouTube influencers needs to be cautious of what they say at this time because most investors only concerned is to exit the market, cut lose and never to come back (especially new investors who bought at the top).

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.

Actually, the YouTubers will still be creating content, but now just with bearishness, with some "market crash", "bitcoin to 10k", with the video thumbnails with red candles and with their mouths agape. That's how they roll — they'll create clickbait videos regardless of market sentiment.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

The problem is very simple. With the price movements becoming more and more unpredictable, there are no actual specialists in that "field". (And if there would be any, they would be busy making money, not posting around)
I was expecting 100k get touched before Christmas. I was wrong. I also warned that the future cannot be predicted and people should be careful with what they do.
I am no specialist, but even now I think that there's a chance for the trend turn bullish. Of course, I may be wrong too.

Want hope? Zoom out the chart. You'll see that it already went once from 65k to 29k then to 69k... you can hope (with me) that it'll happen again (but again, I can't guarantee anything). Good enough?

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

They could and likely a few are just silently buying coins and hoping the dump continues.

Why make a bullish prediction at 40k when you can save yourself the effort and buy at 35k when everyone's panicking?

Predictions are predictions, there are enough that have been unrealistic and enough unrealistic ones have come true throughout time. If people think something's unrealistic though, why listen to it anyway?

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It's very much easy to take profit in a bull market & it's easier to provide a signal in such a market. But when it comes to the bearish season, it's not easy nor a lot of people can make a profit. Only the most experienced guy can do that. I was following a few Twitter handle lately; they are inactive for the last 2 days LOL. They used to share their signal and when trade hit the signal, they were likely to post & take the credit. As you said, they are not anymore there to say a word or two LOL.

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The crypto market is unpredictable. People who are into the cryptocurrency try to spread positivity rather than negative news about the market. Considering the previous year growth there'll be some break for the bearish move. The best players of the market consider it the time for investing more, whereas the rest starts to panic thinking whether the market will recover or not.

With hope the influencers make predictions, but the market has outlawed the predictions. Possibly now certain people's prediction have come true with which we can understand who has does the true study about the market than making random predictions.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 22, 2022, 12:28:07 PM

Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

I don't know, how it becomes an unrealistic prediction!!

Every trader and hodler said that Bitcoin will cross the previous ATH after halving, is that unrealistic?
They said Bitcoin can surpass the Gold marketcap, is that unrealistic?
they predict Bitcoin will touch $60K by end of 2021, is that unrealistic?

which one is unrealistic I don't actually get that.

Bitcoin is not one direction financial system that goes only upward all time, correction is also a part of the system you have to consider it.

Currently, I placed my buy order from $35K to $20K. if it will go below $20K probably I will be out of funds. And I will Hodl till next Bull run. Throw out your emotions and be realistic.

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Every time the market is green, we see a lot of youtube and social media influencers come out to guide people and to predict the targets for bitcoin and altcoins. But as the market dumps, we see no sign of these moon boys. Why don't they come to advise us in the these times.
Maybe they are unable to face the public because they have given too much unrealistic hopim to the people ?

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