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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

Many people always prediction bitcoin price raise up above $50k but now how bitcoin price still down where is their prediction come true, why many people trust with shit information giving by some one without get recommendation for bitcoin have higher price, why always make sense with bitcoin said become higher price.

We should not expect some predictions to make sense because bitcoin is a very volatile coin and because of its volatility makes it very difficult to be able to predict the coin accurately and moreover, what many analyst are using to drive the market price for now is speculation, and without speculation, we might not have seen the value of bitcoin where it is now, although it would still be very useful because of its real use case, but presently lack adoption to rely on its real use case to drive the value to a high peak.

We will see some of these crazy predictions, but as someone who understand the market too, we should be careful not to follow those prediction blindly because if we do, we may end up falling victim of fomo which is one bad thing for investment.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

I think every people have a freedom to predict by their own analysis and beleve the capability of bitcoin in the rise the value according to their faith. I think giving a self prediction from their own analysis is not a fud news everyone want to give positive prediction for bitcoin future not to bring a fuds.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

I always read such post especially in speculation thread, what astonished me most is the unrealistic prediction of the price of bitcoin without any proof to back up those predictions I believed those behind those predictions does so to achieve certain aim recalled when bitcoin attained ATH in 2017 a lot of prediction then that its price would reach $50K was spread as FUD then which prompted a lot newbies to buy at peak thus losing their investment.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

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There will always be that kind of trend in the market, the important thing to keep in mind is:

1.- The market will have a new ATH, whether or not they want to pass (When? It is not known how long will it takes, but it is safe)

2.- Adoption is news that is always happening every day (This is something very positive)

3.-Some encourage the FUD, to panic and sell cheap for them to buy cheaper.

The news should know how to interpret, have criteria and arguments in the market due to reading books, articles, is a way to know what information to take and which to discard.

I recently read this article: Bitcoin May Be Forming Long-Term Bottom as Bulls Fight Back, newsbtc.com, which gives a vision of what can really happen, based on Fundamental and technical analysis, the important thing is to have the full conviction that the Bitcoin market will be much more interesting and it is best to be inside, no matter what.

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All of that is just an assumption for every different individual and I don't really make that a problem when they say prices that basically don't look realistic, because no matter what price they say, they just assume and as we know if the crypto market is not easy to predict. All back again to self-confidence, if you think the price is not realistic then make your own predictions and assumptions about the value that is at least more realistic to achieve.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

I think that is exactly what is happening in the market now and it is getting very difficult to really use speculation to manipulate the market as most people we have in the cryptocurrency space have fully understand the whole way that bitcoin and other cryptocurrency work.

Even if they create FUD, you will hardly see many people react to it or panic sell because of that and even if they try to create a FOMO new, you will not find many people that actually do also respond to this also, so I think that things are beginning to change as no one wants to rush into making decision again based on other people’s opinion which has really been a weapon of destruction to a lot of people's finances over time, so we may begin to see those people, disappear from the market.

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We need to acknowledge the fact that the people interested in speculating crypto has dropped significantly since we've gone through the bear market. There are not many retail traders left in the market and IMO that's the primary reason for the lack of FUD in the forums like it was back in the days. There is an insignificant amount of people that would react on that FUD if you know what I mean.. Institutional investors laugh when they see FUD. They never make decisions based on other people's POV, especially a newbie posting on a forum.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

Pay less attention to those people who keep on shilling about bitcoin's price in the upcoming years without making any real analyses of its adoption and its usage. I think what these new comers have come to the realize is that...though bitcoin's value is volatile FUDS like these in the forum don't have any effect on the price of bitcoin. Bitcoin's price is mainly affected by major development about it such as its halving or increase in the adoption in other countries.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

Those people are definitely still there, they are still posting here and there some predictions in hope to influence some decisions, but the thing is most of the people here on this forum are well informed and know the truth and how they have no idea what they are talking about and just posting useless prediction, so their posts get rotted it out and they don't show up in the front pages because there are hardly anyone responding to them.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

Well, I have seen a lot of this kind of theory, especially in the Speculation section. FUD can never be removed from folk here in this oscillating market and the same for people who think the price will hit a million. I'm pretty sure that we all knew that no one can predict the price of Bitcoin but still we created some speculation just to give some FUD or positive news for our own cause.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

People like those will never learn and are either do not want to, or they're just trolling here in the forum. If you're knowledgable enough, you'll know in yourself a real threat or real catalyst that might dictate the prices, on contrary to those which really does not mean anything. And you'll also know that no matter what technical analysis you do, you can't and won't predict the price trend.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

Many people always prediction bitcoin price raise up above $50k but now how bitcoin price still down where is their prediction come true, why many people trust with shit information giving by some one without get recommendation for bitcoin have higher price, why always make sense with bitcoin said become higher price.

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The decision to invest will always be on ourselves. Whatever the posts we can read or comments we see in this forum is somehow part of our decision making. Its true that positive posts can make as feel good about it. And I guess its normal to feel that way and those users are maybe just expressing themselves. We are all expressing our opinions here. In the end, we are still the one reliable in whatever decision we choose to do.

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I can see still many people who're dealing with that type of issue, I also think those type of common talking should be paused here because of a newcomer when seeing this then he or she must be perplexed. I don't know why people are doing this thing, what are the advantages of this step, but from my experience, I can say that no one can be able to predict about the price of Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency, but it's true that Bitcoin price is more or less stable in recent time so this is almost the right time to do something for future purpose, I hope Bitcoin will bring back to us a good price within very soon.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

this only means people now in crypto aren't stupid to listen or even buy those statements and i am sure that those topic starters realizes that so they stopped being fool to think that another victims will come out.

how can you predict a super volatile market like this?that even those so called experts Fails and now hiding under their closets.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

I guess, they learn how to behave but fud are very common in crypto society because no one can really predict the market price in the following days,months or years. There are only few who can predict it correctly like the big whales who have the control of the price but the small investors are in no position to make a prediction.

Many are waiting for the right moment, once the market will start to bounce back then I am pretty sure that the crypto society will become active again.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

In a way you answered your own question. You think those people do it whenever there's a dump and when there's bad news they scream FUD. There's nothing like that now because there's no bad news and there's no dump. If a 10% loss of value over the course of weeks is a dump you haven't been here long enough. It's a dump when it happens in a few hours.

What's the connection between saying that it will cross 50k and predicting the price? I'd say that a price prediction is "it will be at 50k in 2020" Saying that it will reach 50k is more of a statement than a prediction and it's a true statement. I'd say there's a 99,9% chance that bitcoin will reach 50k. The problem is that it can happen next year or in 5 years.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

There is a trend in this forum whenever there is a dump there will be a group of people who will spam the forum with FUD and then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars, right now I don't see anyone predicting the price. Does it mean people have learnt no one can predict the price or just waiting for right moment again?

Almost all of the predicted price of Bitcoin is speculation. The rest, maybe only a few predictions are correct, because they do chart analysis. Of course, we as traders expect a good price for Bitcoin. Right now I prefer to do short trades to take a little profit.

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A group of people who do like that, creating their own FUD aims to influence forum members and new investors. They aim to buy bitcoin at the lowest price and then sell it at the highest price by spreading positive news again.
But the outstanding FUD is not strong enough to influence the current price of bitcoin, except for Whales who does FUD. If only a small player will have no effect.
As good members, we must respond positively to FUD and must first read the outstanding FUD, then conclude whether the FUD is true according to the current news or only false news.

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Quote from: Wysi on November 16, 2019, 04:22:05 AM

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then there are a set of people post unrealistic things will bitcoin will cross $50k if it pumps by few hundred dollars,

When Bitcoin price was under a dollar or even a $100 then when someone said bitcoin may reach to $20k, this was unrealistic too. When something has not happen yet is always not real but that does not mean it is not going to happen.

Not sure if I am making sense here.

Anyway, Bitcoin can reach the $50k mark very soon and possibly after the next halving or in the next few years. It's supply and demand.

PS: Those FUD people and those optimistic people are always around us.

Exactly. There were people claiming it wouldn't ever get above a US dollar. Then that it wouldn't hold dollar parity etc.

The answer is: no one knows and it was (and to a certain extent is) a binary proposition in that it will be worth a whole lot or very little.

That said, the longevity so far and the long term fiat price of bitcoin changes augur well for the future price. In short, the fact that bitcoin has done so well over the past decade makes it more likely that the long term bullish hypothesis for bitcoin comes true.

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