Where are the real bitcoiners? Those who wanted to fight against the banksters? - page 2.

Lauda

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 2965

Terminated.

They are around. You shouldn't confuse altcoiners with Bitcoiners, even though these terms are not mutually exclusive. A huge influx of people who flock to altcoins do not care about any fundamental values, especially not those set by Satoshi. They have come here solely because of their own greed. They are often very uneducated as well and tend to shill the foulest shitcoins.

Another example of greedy Bitcoiners, regardless of the date that they've joined the ecosystem, are those (see XT, Classic, BU, Bitcoin ABC) that want to centralize the network for a bit more throughput.

Quote from: Gabo on July 19, 2017, 04:17:06 AM

I'm sad, I don't see bitcoiners anymore. Everybody only talk about money, money and money.

You are looking at the wrong place. Then again, this forum has become a shithole of spammers and greedy inferior creatures.

Quote from: very_452001 on July 19, 2017, 04:38:08 AM

If bitcoin becomes centralised then someone can increase the inflation supply from 21million to 21billion meaning at this point everyone in the world including babies can have 7 bitcoins each at least.

No. That would only be possible if it were fully centralized (which will never happen) and even then, that's the equivalent of stabbing yourself in the foot.

Thule

sr. member

Activity: 938

Merit: 276

Quote from: very_452001 on July 19, 2017, 04:38:08 AM

Your right that people just care about the money side only but what I dont understand is what gives bitcoin that money value is it being decentralised.

If its not decentralised then its not worth any high money value correct?

If bitcoin becomes centralised then someone can increase the inflation supply from 21million to 21billion meaning at this point everyone in the world including babies can have 7 bitcoins each at least. How much will each bitcoin be worth then? 7cents?

So if bitcoin value becomes 7 pennies will people still care about money side or true decentralisation? When bitcoin reaches that low stage it is too late and impossible to change centralisation status back to original decentralised status.

Thats a smart question and if you would read a bit about real economical news you would know that the plan is to bind the virtual currency with a real and limited asset so the creation of new coins will be limited

krishnapramod

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1079

Quote from: Gabo on July 19, 2017, 04:17:06 AM

I'm sad, I don't see bitcoiners anymore. Everybody only talk about money, money and money.
When I begun in 2012, I remember a lot of people talking about to figh against banksters and centralizations. Satoshi were our god and their ideals our bible but now Money is the god and I'm the atheist in the middle of this church full of newbies, haters, dumbs and greeddy's people.

Where are them?

Quote

These walls are kind of funny. First you hate ’em, then you get used to ’em. Enough time passes, gets so you depend on them. That’s institutionalized. - Red

We people generally have an institutionalized relationship with the banking system. Bitcoin wasn't meant to take the banking system head on, but to give a choice to the people who want to get out of this institutionalized state and that is happening. The more people use it, the banking system gets more weaker.

Bitcoiners have the choice and they are making use of it to take out the banks in an indirect way.

Some bitcoiners are a bit busy helping the banksters get hold of a centralized bitcoin network.

very_452001

sr. member

Activity: 1056

Merit: 270

Your right that people just care about the money side only but what I dont understand is what gives bitcoin that money value is it being decentralised.

If its not decentralised then its not worth any high money value correct?

If bitcoin becomes centralised then someone can increase the inflation supply from 21million to 21billion meaning at this point everyone in the world including babies can have 7 bitcoins each at least. How much will each bitcoin be worth then? 7cents?

So if bitcoin value becomes 7 pennies will people still care about money side or true decentralisation? When bitcoin reaches that low stage it is too late and impossible to change centralisation status back to original decentralised status.

OmegaStarScream

staff

Activity: 3500

Merit: 6152

You definitely brought a good subject to discuss. I personally believe that the real bitcoiners are the early adopters, It's not that the other people aren't but early adopters invested in bitcoin even though the price was so low and there was zero indications that the price will actually reach +2000$ in the future, they trusted bitcoin and they liked it for offering what banks couldn't.

jorneyflair

hero member

Activity: 672

Merit: 500

Quote from: Gabo on July 19, 2017, 04:17:06 AM

I'm sad, I don't see bitcoiners anymore. Everybody only talk about money, money and money.
When I begun in 2012, I remember a lot of people talking about to figh against banksters and centralizations. Satoshi were our god and their ideals our bible but now Money is the god and I'm the atheist in the middle of this church full of newbies, haters, dumbs and greeddy's people.

Where are them?

Firstly what is so bad about the banks. I know how they are pretty annoying at times but they are the backbone of our markets and we wouldn't be so developed without them. How do you think you would be able to bug a house if mortgages didn't exist since you killed the banks? In 2012 not that much people knew about bitcoin, so what would they do of banks closed, would you force them to use bitcoin?

Gabo

newbie

Activity: 36

Merit: 0

Quote from: Thule on July 19, 2017, 04:18:52 AM

These were dumb people not understanding that bitcoin was a governmental project to implement virtual currency to the world.
Now bitcoin is going to be accepted everywhere soon which will be the start of virtual currency which bankers waited for decades.

You have been used

Sometimes I think that theory, but at least we were trying to fight the banks and talking about it. Bitcoin had could be something good, but we forgot that we are f*cking humans.

Thule

sr. member

Activity: 938

Merit: 276

These were dumb people not understanding that bitcoin was a governmental project to implement virtual currency to the world.
Now bitcoin is going to be accepted everywhere soon which will be the start of virtual currency which bankers waited for decades.

You have been used

Gabo

newbie

Activity: 36

Merit: 0

I'm sad, I don't see bitcoiners anymore. Everybody only talk about money, money and money.
When I begun in 2012, I remember a lot of people talking about to figh against banksters and centralizations. Satoshi were our god and their ideals our bible but now Money is the god and I'm the atheist in the middle of this church full of newbies, haters, dumbs and greeddy's people.

Where are them?

Topic: Where are the real bitcoiners? Those who wanted to fight against the banksters? - page 2. (Read 973 times)