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Topic: Where do bitcoins come from and what gives them their value? - page 2. (Read 361 times)

legendary
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People create bitcoin by running something on their computers. They get paid for doing this so a great number of them are all doing it at the same time which makes the bitcoin network enormous.

Bitcoin gets its value from several mechanisms, intrinsic and user created.

The most valuable intrinsic characteristic of bitcoin is its scarcity. Because bitcoin is in short supply and no more will ever be created it’s value is inflationary (its value will always increase because no more can be created).

Bitcoin also gains worth by being an accepted means of exchange. This user created property increases its value over time. The more people agree that bitcoin has value then the more value it has.

Because bitcoin is always inflationary and people agree it is valuable it can be a “store of value” which also gives it worth. Most recognized means of storing value like gold can lose value over time. Bitcoin will always increase in value over large expanses of time (one year its worth $100, five years later $1000, another five years $5000, etc. always increasing over time makes it a good retirement vehicle)

Speculative interest makes bitcoin massively valuable to those fearless investors willing to risk money for short term profit. This is currently fueling the huge interest in bitcoin but speculative interest will decline as adoption increases.
sr. member
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Actually bitcoin is created from miners.But it was introduced by the legend called Sathoshi .But it was boon to lot of people.
The main advantage of bitcoin is we can expect huge profit in short term by the investments.
This is the reason for many people involved in crypto.
hero member
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It is a trust that gives value to Bitcoin and the people who trust Bitcoin determines the price of Bitcoin in the market. The same thing is associated with Fiat currencies, we believe that a $1 bill has the value of $1 because the government want us to believe it. On the other hand, when it comes to cryptocurrencies, everyone trusts the entire network and believes that his Bitcoin has some value in terms of money.
newbie
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because of the demand the value creates.
newbie
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this is a difficult mystery, bitcoin is derived from miners, but if about who found it and made it, the information is all in Satoshi Nakamoto.
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Bitcoin is created by generating random numbers, which is why it is called a digital coin. With respect to the value of bitcoin and generally decentralized crypto currency, there is no consensus. Most believe that bitcoin has no intrinsic value, and its price is formed solely on the basis of the ratio of supply and demand. However, bitcoin, like any crypto currency, provides us with the opportunity to use it to transfer money at any time to any place in the world and without intermediaries. Such an advantage can be measured from a material point of view, that is, it can be said that he still represents a certain material value.
newbie
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Bitcoins are generated through mining, the miners have their special reward (bitcoin) from the network. Also, the value of bitcoin depends on the buyers/sellers of it, thus the trend varies depending on the state of its market.
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Bitcoin come as a reward to miner who input every trx in to a block after been verified by the node, it all started in 2009 with a reward of 50btc per block in every 10minutes, which in every 210,000 blocks reduce by 2, which has brought us to the third level of it by rewarding 12.5 in every block now and will continue till we get the last block at Max supply of 21,000,000 btc.

Bitcoin value is basically determine by market base on agreement between the seller n the buyer , which trigger the price to what ever the last buyer n seller agreed on and also by it decentralized features and store of value .
legendary
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The usual explanation is to picture Bitcoin as a Supercomputer cluster. Just search the term "supercomputer cluster" and you will find out that if you connect one desktop computer to another in a single network you will be able to create a very cheap supercomputer which is also called a cluster computer.
i generally don't like your comparison because it is not a good one in my opinion!

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The miners are actually machines that verifies transactions.
wrong. miners find blocks they do not verify transactions. nodes verify them. then a miner includes those verified transactions in the block they found.

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They are called miners since they are earning rewards from 25 Bitcoins when it started
it started from 50
legendary
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creation. in simple terms
bitcoin is created everytime a block (batch) of transactions get validated and locked into a chain of blocks(block validation / tx confirmation).
the work rquired to lock these transactions into blocks and chain them together to previous blocks requires special machines called asics to create the lock. these asics do alot of mathematical computations that would today require hundreds of millions of pc's cpu power to lock one block.

the owners of these pieces of equipment are called 'miners' and they pool all their asics hard work into groups which is why there are so many asics doing the job colectively, but from different locations.

what gives it value in simple terms
the cost of the asics and the electric can be calculated. and as such miners decide logically that its not worth selling coins below the cost of gtting their coin rward for validating and locking a block

so call this first layer of price support: mining cost

their is another layer of price support which is from buyers of previous coins. they too know how much it cost them to buy the coins and would not sell for less.

so lets call this second layer of price support: buyers remorse

these two support layers give bitcoin its intrinsic value.
then separate from the value. is all the emotional illogical nonsense of random choice. which is called speculation. this can cause alot of hype wher the price jumps up alot higher than value. causing a big temporary spike. or it can cause people to think all hope is lost and people sell as cheaply as they would dare risk.

the mining and buyers remorse support area is around $6k -$12k
the speculation area is anything above that.

imagine the price like a bathtub of water
the 'cost of obtaining' support lines is the waterline of value. but above the waterline is where things get stirred up by spculation and creat bubbles. this is why although 2018 never dropped below $6k, economics guys were screaming the price was a bubble when it reached $20k
(they were saying there was upto $14k of bubbles in the $20k price.. NOT that there were $20k of bubbles.. just like housing, when house prises double for no reason the housing bubble is the extra price that cant be explained)

the bottom $6k price point has been tested dozens of times since october 2017 and seems to be holding nicely so intrinsic value (cost of obtaining support) seems to be settling above the $6k range along with the averag mining costs which for the last few months has been varying the price below the $12k range

unless mining costs drastically dropped due to a drop in how difficult it is to mine. we should not see much change in the $6k support line. but speculation and emotion of foolish people who sell at a loss or buy at a premium can change the price to go down or up. usually spculation doesnt knock prices below support lines much but does send prices up way higher.

the positive flip side of this is that as it becomes more difficult to mine and more asic miners add more asics to the network the costs will rise. which should help keep the underlying value increasing.
newbie
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The value of bitcoin is created by demand and offer by the need of market.I think the value of bitcoin comes from people's understanding of the need to change the Fiat system. Cash is indeed too easy to depreciate.
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Where do bitcoins come from? From the WeUseCoins.com video it appears they are just being produced by "miners" and sold to people. So who backs Bitcoin or gives it its value?

The usual explanation is to picture Bitcoin as a Supercomputer cluster. Just search the term "supercomputer cluster" and you will find out that if you connect one desktop computer to another in a single network you will be able to create a very cheap supercomputer which is also called a cluster computer. The ./bitcoind or the bitcoin daemon turns every machine into a simple node that handles all of the copies of the blocks of the Bitcoin network if 1 million machines are using bitcoin daemon then there are 1 million copies of all the blocks from the genesis block which is actually recording all the transactions. These transaction records can be accessed readily just by using a block explorer. The miners are actually machines that verifies transactions. They are called miners since they are earning rewards from 25 Bitcoins when it started and now atleast 12.5 Bitcoins. The value of Bitcoins is actually based on the fact that it is the largest and fastest supercomputer cluster which was built not by businessmen but by the Bitcoin community. The value of Bitcoin is also backed by the unhackable/immutable public ledger that records every single transaction. The exchanges will say that the value of Bitcoin is fictional. No it  is not. Bitcoin is an infrastructure that has exchanges, miners/auditors, users, and the supercomputer cluster/nodes that is keeping the transaction 24 hours a day. 7 days a week. 365 days a year without holidays and weekend. It is the only infrastucture that can handle this amount of abuse for the past 9 years as it started in year 2009. The central banking can't transfer your funds on Saturdays and Sundays and holidays but Bitcoin doesn't refuse the challenge. Which is why it it so valuable.
newbie
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Where do bitcoins come from? From the WeUseCoins.com video it appears they are just being produced by "miners" and sold to people. So who backs Bitcoin or gives it its value?
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