On which casino did you visit OP? Was it offline? But since you saw low volatility slots there, why not stick on them? Although maybe you find them inconvenient because you know, we still need to travel and experience some hassles only to play there. So, an online version would be better. But on some local casinos that I play, I still see a couple of low-volatility games.
Anyway, you can try reaching out the casino of your choice and recommend it to them but there are also casinos who likes to read threads in the forum. They might read yours here and they may consider it next time on their update. Like a high-volume slot game, there must still be a house edge on them, so they still can earn through it.
Topic: Where have all the low volatility slots gone??? (Read 255 times)
You make a good point about how slot games are changing and how unstable they are. Many new slots do tend to have bigger variance, that's true. This might be because big sums look so good. But the company should provide several options so that players can discover what they're seeking. Players who don't like taking risks and players who do like taking risks can both find games that fit their style. The people who make games should think about this range so that more people can have a better time.
It would be ideal if each slot would say how often each multiplier is hit on average, but speaking from experience, slots that have the highest multipliers don't have that of a steady pace for payouts.
This won't be good for the gambling providers and the casino. 
Imagine someone gamble on x slots, they claimed 1K multipliers is usually happen after 10K bets, there's should be someone who will try to gamble until it reach 10K bets, if he didn't hit the 1K multipliers, he will scream both of the providers and casino scammed him.
Well, 10k bets is a lot... I guess there would be many bonuses along that way, but who knows how profitable those bonuses will be, in my experience, many will be under x10! Sometimes it can be really hard to hit x100... There are no guarantees when it comes to slots, what we can do is try and hope for the best!
Honestly speaking, based on my observation as a slot player for a long, volatility isn't a big deal now to most gamblers. Generally, if we do some interviews with some slot players out there, surely they will say that there's not much difference now between low and high-volatility slots as in the end, they will still experience being wrecked.
Sometimes, some gamblers are lucky at low volatility then unfortunate at high volatility slots, and vice-versa.
Sometimes, some gamblers are lucky at low volatility then unfortunate at high volatility slots, and vice-versa.
You described my experience. I had some pretty big luck with high-volatility slots, and many times I got wrecked playing low-volatility slots. The bottom line, if we are unlucky we will lose no matter what slot we choose!
In the end, I can only say that high volatility slots are much more interesting, with many more features and bonuses we can get. That comes with the price, as I always write, slots can give a lot, but they can take even more... keep that in mind.
It would be ideal if each slot would say how often each multiplier is hit on average, but speaking from experience, slots that have the highest multipliers don't have that of a steady pace for payouts.
This won't be good for the gambling providers and the casino. Imagine someone gamble on x slots, they claimed 1K multipliers is usually happen after 10K bets, there's should be someone who will try to gamble until it reach 10K bets, if he didn't hit the 1K multipliers, he will scream both of the providers and casino scammed him.
I also appreciate the allure of more frequent wins, even if they come with a lower ceiling, a steadier pace that I enjoy when playing slots. I agree with what was said about how the higher the RTP, the lower the volatility. I also prefer that because it allows for longer gameplay, and there's more entertainment and excitement in playing. As a new player back then, I was less concerned about volatility, and I didn't know about RTP before I started playing. I lacked awareness because I was more focused on graphics or animation. So, in terms of low volatility, I think each provider has games like that nowadays; it just depends on the specific game.
Agree with everything said here but one thing. I think RTP and volatility are different metrics.
Maybe a slot game with higher RTP should be giving back more of the money it gets, but if it has a multiplier of let's say 30000x, then it wouldn't be able to support frequent wins, because that large payout would have to be funded somehow. So lower payouts like 1.2x, 5x etc would not happen that often probably.
It would be ideal if each slot would say how often each multiplier is hit on average, but speaking from experience, slots that have the highest multipliers don't have that of a steady pace for payouts.
I also appreciate the allure of more frequent wins, even if they come with a lower ceiling, a steadier pace that I enjoy when playing slots. I agree with what was said about how the higher the RTP, the lower the volatility. I also prefer that because it allows for longer gameplay, and there's more entertainment and excitement in playing. As a new player back then, I was less concerned about volatility, and I didn't know about RTP before I started playing. I lacked awareness because I was more focused on graphics or animation. So, in terms of low volatility, I think each provider has games like that nowadays; it just depends on the specific game.
Once the gambler becomes aware on this feature, they can easily get the info of this in each provider.
Because most casinos these days are already providing such information to their players.
But I think, most gamblers don't really look into this info, RTP and other details attached to each provider.
At first, they will be after for the aesthetic features of the game and later on, they will dig deeper about the game.
I also appreciate the allure of more frequent wins, even if they come with a lower ceiling, a steadier pace that I enjoy when playing slots. I agree with what was said about how the higher the RTP, the lower the volatility. I also prefer that because it allows for longer gameplay, and there's more entertainment and excitement in playing. As a new player back then, I was less concerned about volatility, and I didn't know about RTP before I started playing. I lacked awareness because I was more focused on graphics or animation. So, in terms of low volatility, I think each provider has games like that nowadays; it just depends on the specific game.
The slot and the most of the casino games which also include the feature of the card game will not easy to predict,but you have made the prediction in the right way.It will help you make the money in huge way,the gamblers should increase the betting money to the game after the money profit is huge.The slot game have the more volatility because of the number of the participants,the gamblers also able to earn more at the end.The winning in the game was based on the volatility of the game money,but the gamblers should accept the loss before he start the game.If the gamblers get winning in the slot game,he can loss of money in same slot game.
I also appreciate the allure of more frequent wins, even if they come with a lower ceiling, a steadier pace that I enjoy when playing slots. I agree with what was said about how the higher the RTP, the lower the volatility. I also prefer that because it allows for longer gameplay, and there's more entertainment and excitement in playing. As a new player back then, I was less concerned about volatility, and I didn't know about RTP before I started playing. I lacked awareness because I was more focused on graphics or animation. So, in terms of low volatility, I think each provider has games like that nowadays; it just depends on the specific game.
I'm actually waiting for a slots maker to do something similar -- not that it'd entice me much.
It's interesting that some of the oldest and logrdt running casinos in crypto actually have some of the most technologically advanced and versatile slots. To be honest I wasn't even aware. This seems like a good selling point to experienced gamblers and it makes me wonder why it's not promoted more. I've mostly been playing on Stake and over there when playing slots I actually have a preference for the so called stake original slots, which are made by the casino and not any specific third party provider. These had good RTP and also were provably fair.
I was hoping we would also see more games like these but with lower volatility.
But the bigger and most advertised casinos don't seem to care that much. Probably the profit in higher volatility stocks is better in the long term so if a casino gets big it tends to ignore them?
Yeah, these oldies don't get the attention they deserve. Not surprised you haven't heard of them but surprised some posters claim to have years of experience yet didn't know. There are crypto gamblers... and there are crypto gambler posters
The market caters to slot players, which is why "crypto slots" are only RNG slots featuring crypto buyins, but not slots using cryptographic hash functions like the examples I shared do. If developers created good slots but fixed the RNG to use cryptographic hash functions, they benefit from lower house edge (because they don't need to pay annual RNG 3rd party verifications, customised RTP (players can set volatility as high/low as they want, players would flock.
I don't know where they have gone but I know and the casinos should know this well too that the real catcher in bringing the more and more players to play slot are the huge multipliers and surely these multipliers we cannot find in those low volatility slots.I think that most slot providers now almost offer only high volatility slot which as per their description is "the chance to win often is lower compared to other slots but the chance to win big in a short amount of time is higher",that is where most slot providers are as of now.
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You mentioned one of the reasons that makes sense about this problem, now people come with thoughts and beliefs about how easy it is to get a win on slot games like in the old days when slots were new which I also felt that in the past getting a win on this game was not as difficult as it is now, without realizing that now everything has changed, casinos increase the difficulty of winning for a bigger profit, it happens because maybe one of the reasons is like you said that now there are so many other slot providers or that means competition from other competitors is getting tougher which obviously will make a reduction in the audience who play which makes casino revenue increasingly according to.
Honestly, lately I also feel that getting even a small win is very difficult from slot games. I think very few people will know about the changes that occur in the type of slot game, all they know and they want is nothing more than to continue gambling, not caring about other things especially with problems like this. It seems that only really good luck can bring us to victory if there is indeed a change in this type of game, but however it is better that we should not be too serious in gambling, because even though victory is not too difficult as in the past, if we overdo it, then of course the number of defeats will still dominate.
If they could realize that this was a wrong thought, they would not have used a lot of money to play slots because, after all, slot games really need luck to win, so those who don't have luck will always lose. Even if they can win, their win won't be very big, and if they compare it with their losses, the amount of their win will still be smaller, so they don't have a big chance of getting the big win. Normally, the situation has changed, and the difficulties we face are also getting bigger because, with technological developments in the gambling business, casinos have also made changes. And that's what makes many gamblers unable to win easily. Moreover, now many slot providers also have lots of slot games ready to attract the interest of gamblers, so competition from each casino will be even more difficult. A wise gambler will not fall into that situation and can still use slot games in his spare time and not chase wins.Honestly, lately I also feel that getting even a small win is very difficult from slot games. I think very few people will know about the changes that occur in the type of slot game, all they know and they want is nothing more than to continue gambling, not caring about other things especially with problems like this. It seems that only really good luck can bring us to victory if there is indeed a change in this type of game, but however it is better that we should not be too serious in gambling, because even though victory is not too difficult as in the past, if we overdo it, then of course the number of defeats will still dominate.
I feel the same way as you, where I very rarely get big wins. Just getting a small win makes me happy because that's what I can get right now so if I experience defeat more often, I will accept it too. But with my limitations and self-control, I can avoid losing a lot. Also, I don't lose a lot of money playing slots because this slot game is very tempting and makes me want to keep playing, especially if there is a bonus feature I can buy to increase my chances of winning. But the opportunity from the Bonus feature also can't guarantee that I can get a big win, so I limit the amount of money by just doing normal spins to spend my free time.
That's true. The reason behind it is for a higher chance of profits for their business and it's always been against the players. Sure, slots give multiwins that are hard to explain. It could go to thousands of multipliers but many times it will take always your whole balance and nothing will come out. Slots are for those who have deep pockets unless you are lucky enough to hit it at your first 10-20 bets which happens very rarely.
In online slots, they put the enhanced RTP for a reason. Many slot players are upset because of how rare a winning chance could happen and so they offer them that new feature. I am not really a fan of this game because like I said, those are for players who have deep wallets, and just like you I don't want that too. I take low multipliers as long as I can play longer but I do want a chance for high multipliers too which is why I like playing Keno because it has both. Also, with original games like it, I can bet small amounts. This is a good option for those who are targeting the wagering amount to increase their bonuses weekly and monthly.
In online slots, they put the enhanced RTP for a reason. Many slot players are upset because of how rare a winning chance could happen and so they offer them that new feature. I am not really a fan of this game because like I said, those are for players who have deep wallets, and just like you I don't want that too. I take low multipliers as long as I can play longer but I do want a chance for high multipliers too which is why I like playing Keno because it has both. Also, with original games like it, I can bet small amounts. This is a good option for those who are targeting the wagering amount to increase their bonuses weekly and monthly.
Honestly speaking, based on my observation as a slot player for a long, volatility isn't a big deal now to most gamblers. Generally, if we do some interviews with some slot players out there, surely they will say that there's not much difference now between low and high-volatility slots as in the end, they will still experience being wrecked.
Sometimes, some gamblers are lucky at low volatility then unfortunate at high volatility slots, and vice-versa. Not sure about how volatility works in physical casinos
I agree, it doesn't matter anyway on what you choose as for the volatility because it doesn't feel like that there's an actual difference at all.Sometimes, some gamblers are lucky at low volatility then unfortunate at high volatility slots, and vice-versa. Not sure about how volatility works in physical casinos
but at least in online casinos, players pick slots now based on design and how attractive the huge multiplier is in the banner of that said game.
This is so me, I just like to think of how I am going to have fun with the slots and that's technically what you've said as the few factors on how I choose to have fun with based on the design and some other little factors. 
If you want volatility you play a hacksaw slot. high risk high reward. If you want low volatility go play big bass bonanza from pragmatic. All slots, online at least, show the RTP and IMO the bigger the RTP to lower the volatility.
You can go to stake.com and play the enhanced RTP games as well and lower the volatility.
You can go to stake.com and play the enhanced RTP games as well and lower the volatility.
I'm actually waiting for a slots maker to do something similar -- not that it'd entice me much.
It's interesting that some of the oldest and logrdt running casinos in crypto actually have some of the most technologically advanced and versatile slots. To be honest I wasn't even aware. This seems like a good selling point to experienced gamblers and it makes me wonder why it's not promoted more. I've mostly been playing on Stake and over there when playing slots I actually have a preference for the so called stake original slots, which are made by the casino and not any specific third party provider. These had good RTP and also were provably fair.
I was hoping we would also see more games like these but with lower volatility.
But the bigger and most advertised casinos don't seem to care that much. Probably the profit in higher volatility stocks is better in the long term so if a casino gets big it tends to ignore them?
I'm not sure why providers are doing this lately, perhaps high volatility is mkre profitable to them? Either way... Don't you also think there should be more options to the player in therms of volatility?
Even though it is very difficult to win, slots with high volatility seem to be a favorite lately. Although to be honest I prefer slots with low volatility because they are easy to win, I agree with what you say, nowadays it is very difficult to find slot machines with low volatility, especially the newest slot machines.
demand is changing among gamblers, so more then likely, they also did their homework on how to exhaust their max earnings from this particular game. they won't stick forever to a particular setting if they know they are at a disadvantage. the major aim of these casinos is to always gain more profits as much as possible.
because if the providers changed such feature, it means, they have their basis why they alter their settings. it is of course always in their favour, not the player's end. and if the gamblers are still buying it, then they don't have to worry about changing it back to where it was. they know their stats, otherwise, they will easily be bankrupt if they are not too careful with their offered features to the gamblers. because if one gambler found its loophole, he can easily exhaust their vault and that is what they don't like to happen.
I'm not sure why providers are doing this lately, perhaps high volatility is mkre profitable to them? Either way... Don't you also think there should be more options to the player in therms of volatility?
I think slot machines with low or high volatility will be equally profitable because the game providers have created algorithms that favor them. Maybe because market demand (gamblers) prefer slot machines with high volatility, so more and more slot machines have a maximum win of over 10,000x. Maybe no limit is the one who likes games with high volatility the most, then pragmatics starts to follow suit
Even though it is very difficult to win, slots with high volatility seem to be a favorite lately. Although to be honest I prefer slots with low volatility because they are easy to win, I agree with what you say, nowadays it is very difficult to find slot machines with low volatility, especially the newest slot machines.
Maybe now the situation is different from before, where there is not much competition between casinos and not many slot game providers added to casinos. The large number of slot providers in the casino also determines volatility or other factors. But I don't understand and I'm also not looking for slot games with a certain volatility.
But if people can't win their big wins, it's because they didn't have their luck, making them curious to try again. Of course, in slot games, we should not chase after winning because it will be difficult and there is a possibility that we will experience a lot of losses.
You mentioned one of the reasons that makes sense about this problem, now people come with thoughts and beliefs about how easy it is to get a win on slot games like in the old days when slots were new which I also felt that in the past getting a win on this game was not as difficult as it is now, without realizing that now everything has changed, casinos increase the difficulty of winning for a bigger profit, it happens because maybe one of the reasons is like you said that now there are so many other slot providers or that means competition from other competitors is getting tougher which obviously will make a reduction in the audience who play which makes casino revenue increasingly according to.But if people can't win their big wins, it's because they didn't have their luck, making them curious to try again. Of course, in slot games, we should not chase after winning because it will be difficult and there is a possibility that we will experience a lot of losses.
Honestly, lately I also feel that getting even a small win is very difficult from slot games. I think very few people will know about the changes that occur in the type of slot game, all they know and they want is nothing more than to continue gambling, not caring about other things especially with problems like this. It seems that only really good luck can bring us to victory if there is indeed a change in this type of game, but however it is better that we should not be too serious in gambling, because even though victory is not too difficult as in the past, if we overdo it, then of course the number of defeats will still dominate.
Most of the time, people are getting adds by (Highest RTP).
So, that's why the reason why people more often discuss about (RTP) rather than Volatility. IMO, perhaps you can looking on casino who provided a lot provider slot and looking on the bottom because most of casino will always put newest slot on the top.
Feel free to tried these.
So, that's why the reason why people more often discuss about (RTP) rather than Volatility. IMO, perhaps you can looking on casino who provided a lot provider slot and looking on the bottom because most of casino will always put newest slot on the top.
Feel free to tried these.
There are still some out there, and IIRC Crypto.Games have (had?) one. There are also some of these on my local casinos though they are usually not the ones being played by the gamblers because they, well, give out lesser winnings compared to traditional slots. Low-volatility slots may give you consistent winnings, but one single lose streak and you'll find your winnings down the drain, maybe even lose it all.
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