Where have you saved your bitcoin keys? (satoshi saved it in cd rom! allegedly) - page 3.

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Quote from: Coyster on April 23, 2022, 04:56:28 PM

Quote from: Marvelman on April 23, 2022, 04:44:55 PM

They are not valuable to me at this stage and I have no need to protect them.

People who didn't care about the security/safety of their Bitcoins and lost it some ten years ago or so cause it wasn't really valuable then, would prolly be kicking themselves at this very point. What if the same scenario happens to you somewhere along the line as Bitcoin continues to develop, appreciate in price, and heads towards mass adoption, but you already lost your funds cause you saw no reason to secure it.

I understand what you mean. When I said I didn't worry too much about security, I meant that I didn't worry about theft and hacking. I keep my private keys unencrypted on my computer simply because I don't plan on keeping a significant amount of funds on that wallets, ever. Also, I am the only person using the computer. In this case, even if something were to happen to me, someone in my family may find those keys (if they are aware enough to look for them), and the coins wouldn't be utterly lost.
But like I said, I do not recommend this approach to anyone, and I'm planning to get a hardware wallet soon to store my long-term crypto assets.

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Quote from: ajaxtempest on April 24, 2022, 01:42:42 AM

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As for satoshi post, many do not know that he actually posted in an conspiracy forum back in 2013-2014. (allegedly).
Here was his comment

Quote

Look.

I told You all, I have my reason why I do hide my identity.

I generated a new key, without email of course to stamp this thread to that key, and when time is right, I do sign my key with my old private one...

FINGERPRINT:
DF2D 3A69 DAAB 540D D11A 8308 0494 C673 2252 C9F9

Think for Yourself of the consequences I do face.

I do agree, the risk is much less in 2013.

But still there will be wacko out there who are p.ssed off.

I was the guy who did create the concept. Others did step
it to make implementation.

I did communicate very carefull with people, and my private
key is my signature.

There is a lot said on the internet, they do ask people
of the bitcoin foundation for info.

Nobody does release info, and I am pretty satisfied,
the guys keep word.

You known, about 5 years ago, I did receive a full stack of bitcoins by a programmer of the team, by now it would be worth about 100 billion dollars ?

Well, they are somewhere on my CDroms. Somewhere.

And You known I do not care.
I do care about the system, the idea, the filosophy so we can grow to a world which is ready for high speed innovation
without the burden of commercialism.

Money has to be like a metric. To mess with it, is not the right way at all to have an honest way to trade.

So first the money has to be purified. Right now people do trade on a fraudulent system and the hard working man is robbed in the wallet.

Is this your source? - https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2415307/pg7

Code:

Father of Cryptocurrency (OP)
User ID: 41993714
Belgium
11/22/2013 03:13 PM

^ It looked like someone's trolling in that forum. I would never imagine someone like satoshi to even call himself as father of cryptocurrency.

Quote from: ajaxtempest on April 24, 2022, 01:49:46 AM

Was expecting guys and gals would atleast vote. Wanted to see the percentage.

Voted. Just add those who recommended paper wallet and steel wallet as votes.

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Was expecting guys and gals would atleast vote. Wanted to see the percentage.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on April 23, 2022, 01:16:38 PM

I don't know why you don't put as one of the options what I think will be the majority option: written down on a piece of paper and kept in a safe place (or two different safe places).

I would add one more thing and that is after you have written it down then also intimate your next of kin which can be your spouse, parents or kids. Most of bitcoins got abandoned because there owners either loss the key or left this world . I have kept few copies of my private key with one given to my wife.

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Quote from: pooya87 on April 24, 2022, 01:07:16 AM

It is wrong to only use one option if you ask me. I personally prefer multiple options and multiple backups.
For example you could have a hot wallet on your desktop or your phone containing a small amount of bitcoin that you may need quick access to whenever you want to spend some bitcoin.
Then you also want a secure storage to keep the bulk of your bitcoins which is when cold storage comes in. For backup you could use paper wallets alongside your digital storage (burnt on a disk or a USB stick or old computer,... all airgap).
If you rely on one solution (digital storage for example) you could end up losing access (e.g. data decay in this case).

Quote from: ajaxtempest on April 23, 2022, 12:50:40 PM

satoshi who stated it that he has saved it and buried it

Where did Satoshi say this?

Yeah i though of adding multiple options but it would complicate the poll. As for satoshi post, many do not know that he actually posted in an conspiracy forum back in 2013-2014. (allegedly).
Here was his comment

Quote

Look.

I told You all, I have my reason why I do hide my identity.

I generated a new key, without email of course to stamp this thread to that key, and when time is right, I do sign my key with my old private one...

Think for Yourself of the consequences I do face.

I do agree, the risk is much less in 2013.

But still there will be wacko out there who are p.ssed off.

I was the guy who did create the concept. Others did step
it to make implementation.

I did communicate very carefull with people, and my private
key is my signature.

There is a lot said on the internet, they do ask people
of the bitcoin foundation for info.

Nobody does release info, and I am pretty satisfied,
the guys keep word.

You known, about 5 years ago, I did receive a full stack of bitcoins by a programmer of the team, by now it would be worth about 100 billion dollars ?

Well, they are somewhere on my CDroms. Somewhere.

And You known I do not care.
I do care about the system, the idea, the filosophy so we can grow to a world which is ready for high speed innovation
without the burden of commercialism.

Money has to be like a metric. To mess with it, is not the right way at all to have an honest way to trade.

So first the money has to be purified. Right now people do trade on a fraudulent system and the hard working man is robbed in the wallet.

Please don ban me, If you think it was fraud post above then censor it. I have saved his communications worth 90 pages in my HDD doc file.

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It is wrong to only use one option if you ask me. I personally prefer multiple options and multiple backups.
For example you could have a hot wallet on your desktop or your phone containing a small amount of bitcoin that you may need quick access to whenever you want to spend some bitcoin.
Then you also want a secure storage to keep the bulk of your bitcoins which is when cold storage comes in. For backup you could use paper wallets alongside your digital storage (burnt on a disk or a USB stick or old computer,... all airgap).
If you rely on one solution (digital storage for example) you could end up losing access (e.g. data decay in this case).

Quote from: ajaxtempest on April 23, 2022, 12:50:40 PM

satoshi who stated it that he has saved it and buried it

Where did Satoshi say this?

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@OP you should also add steel sheet in your poll. Some people use those as well.

Done.

No need to post where to you save, just vote as it is anonymous.

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in principle everyone will store it in a way that he believes is safe and not easily lost while I personally store it in an encrypted\stored on HDD\ssd because it's easier but also make a backup by writing it in a private diarrhea because I don't know what to do happen in the future but my family knows I never get rid of diarrhea

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Just wrote it on a paper that I'm the only one who knew where it's kept.

I'm planning to do it on a dog tag and have it written there but I have qualms in doing so. It's hard to find a trusted engraver to do the job for me so, I'll just stay it on the traditional way of keeping it on paper.

Will have it put with a cover to protect it from all kinds of weather.

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Quote from: ajaxtempest on April 23, 2022, 12:50:40 PM

A thought experiment i wanted to know.
I have saved it in a disc (was inspired by satoshi who stated it that he has saved it and buried it)
memorised and saved in hdd in air gapped though!

Memorization is high at risk rather than writing in a piece of paper thats why i never opt out on having this kind of option but instead i do make paper and usb back ups
on saving up my keys but of course it wont really be that easily to be known since some of phrases or characters are placed on other areas or i do make out some
puzzle for it not to be accessed directly incase someone had able to see it out.
There are lots of options to take and each one of us does have different choices whether they would be choosing other but to said
that we are sharing up on the same intent or goal which is to make our coins safe so its doesnt really matter that much.

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Well just like the others, I wrote it in a piece of paper. I never ever ever in my life would think to store them digitally even if my PC was free of virus or malware. As long as it is connected to the internet, I am pretty much not safe to whatever elements are out there.
I am planning to buy a small safe for it, though that might be a too paranoid of a move.

Quote from: Coyster on April 23, 2022, 04:56:28 PM

Quote from: Marvelman on April 23, 2022, 04:44:55 PM

They are not valuable to me at this stage and I have no need to protect them.

People who didn't care about the security/safety of their Bitcoins and lost it some ten years ago or so cause it wasn't really valuable then, would prolly be kicking themselves at this very point, what if the same scenario happens to you somewhere along the line as Bitcoin continues to develop, appreciate in price, and heads towards mass adoption.

This kinda reminds me of this news back then. Cheesy

[Man locked out of his Bitcoin account with $250 million has two password guesses left]

@OP you should also add steel sheet in your poll. Some people use those as well.

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Quote from: Marvelman on April 23, 2022, 04:44:55 PM

I am not very meticulous about security yet. For me, where do I place my keys is not important at this stage. I tend to keep them on my computer and only use it for small amounts. But that’s just me.

Sorry to pry, but i honestly think you should change that, i know it is just you and the funds is yours for christ's sake, the amount as well could prolly be small too (right now by the way), but the thing is: it is always important to worry about your security, and there are many reasons why you should, it is great for your own personal knowledge and development to start experimenting with little amounts how to safely and securely store your coins, cause you never know when the big one will come, or when the small amout would turn big, and by then you prolly might already have been easy prey for scammers to feast on.

Quote from: Marvelman on April 23, 2022, 04:44:55 PM

They are not valuable to me at this stage and I have no need to protect them.

People who didn't care about the security/safety of their Bitcoins and lost it some ten years ago or so cause it wasn't really valuable then, would prolly be kicking themselves at this very point. What if the same scenario happens to you somewhere along the line as Bitcoin continues to develop, appreciate in price, and heads towards mass adoption, but you already lost your funds cause you saw no reason to secure it.

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I am not very meticulous about security yet. For me, where do I place my keys is not important at this stage. I tend to keep them on my computer and only use it for small amounts. But that’s just me.
Of course I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, and it might lead to a lot of headaches in the future if it were to get compromised. But at this stage in my life, I don't really care how safe my coins are. They are not valuable to me at this stage and I have no need to protect them.

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Be careful guys many of us has close affiliates, friends and many more that may know us personally or know our rejoin, this isn’t to say we don’t have trusted friends but when it come to crypto-currency we have to be careful, I believe sharing this information here is like reveal what should be kept private for reasons I don’t think it worth it, Mr op where ever you have saved your Bitcoin key Is for your knowledge, don’t create and cause others to create a thread were people reveal private messages here.

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Personally, I dont use paper, paper can get wet, can be eaten by insects and can catch fire,
the ink can even fade.

I use a stainless Steel plate similar to this > https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stainless-steel-bitcoin-recovery-seed-plate-5323755 which is secured very remotely.

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One of them I wrote on paper to store my private key and kept it in a private closet which was very safe for me, as a backup I always keep it on the SSD/HDD that I use while it's safe it's not a problem to clearly write on that paper better.

That's as an experiment I wrote it's 24 words safe.

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Quote from: ajaxtempest on April 23, 2022, 12:50:40 PM

A thought experiment i wanted to know.
I have saved it in a disc (was inspired by satoshi who stated it that he has saved it and buried it)
memorised and saved in hdd in air gapped though!

i'm a MacBook user, i store my private key wallet in the SSD.... i know it's not very secure but i don't have a lot of Bitcoins that i hold so i'm not really worried, maybe when i have a lot of assets (Bitcoin), i'll move it to a hardware wallet like trezor.

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Quote from: ajaxtempest on April 23, 2022, 12:50:40 PM

A thought experiment i wanted to know.
I have saved it in a disc (was inspired by satoshi who stated it that he has saved it and buried it)
memorised and saved in hdd in air gapped though!

Mines aren't in any of the options in the poll. I use a technique that use a deterministic way to get my seed without the need of knowing all words of my seed and I can store by just remember a specific couple of words, yet if I gave you the couple of words, it wouldn't be enough to get my coins nor seed Cheesy

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My Bad. Added paper one.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on April 23, 2022, 01:16:38 PM

I don't know why you don't put as one of the options what I think will be the majority option: written down on a piece of paper and kept in a safe place (or two different safe places).

yeah agreed why isn't paper wallet on the list? It's the easiest and cheapest way and very secure with zero chance of hacking. People do seem to prefer hardware wallets these days, but to me paper wallet is the easiest, free, and in the past I've heard of hardware wallet hacks or people forgetting their password to the hardware wallet and losing their money so paper wallet seems a little safer.

I use paper wallets, with certain parts of the key changed that only I know but is easy to remember, and stored redundantly with several other people in case something happens to my copy.

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