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It wouldn't surprise me if he goes for other nearby countries, such as Belarus, Sweden or Finland, western countries that do not belong in the NATO and could potentially be an easier target. He has already threatened Finland and Sweden if they decided to enter NATO...

You missed everything, Russian troops are already in Belarus. History shows that where Russia has sent its troops, they remain there forever. It is from the territory of Belarus that the offensive is now underway on the capital of Ukraine, the city of Kiev.
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...... the fascist western left.


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Yo dude, get your terminology straight.  
Then again, intelligence isn't exactly your best attribute....
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I published a post in Bitcointalk titled : Is Putin threatening or Serious to attack Ukraine.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-putin-threatening-or-serious-5385526

The statistical results are as follows.

The research question was : Would Russia Invade Ukraine?

30 people responded to the question but only 20 response were statistically valid.

Analysis was done using simple percentage.

9 respondents which represented 45% of respondents agreed that Russia would not attack Ukraine.

6 respondents which represents 30% of respondents accepted that Russia would invade Ukraine.

While 5 respondents which stands for 25% of population were undecided.

Hence, the researcher concludes that Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine.

But Where is Putin getting his guts to invade Ukraine?

As we all know Russia has started the invasion of Ukraine regardless of the threats of NATO and its Allies. Where is the confidence and strength of Russia coming from?

China: Although China has been cautious about the conflict between Russia but Beijing has also offered high support to Russian President Vladimir. The two world powers signed a joint treaty this month, agreeing on multiple foreign policy goals including no further expansion of NATO. NATO understands the military and economic consequences of the friendship between these globally feared nations.

Russian Military Might: Russian military is one of he best scientifically advanced force. With supersonic weapons like the Avangard, the Kinzhal and the Zircon. Russia is a force in the development of ranges of new hypersonic weapons.

Economy: It is generally believed that Russia has a fragile or ailing economy. But Russia has stockpiled large currency reserve, drastically reduced its use of dollar and trimmed its budget. It has kept overall debts to under two-thirds of his currency reserves making it the ninth least indebted country in the world. Economists believe that Russia can withstand any sanction without any effect for at least one year.

European Dependence: While Russia has reoriented it's trade transactions and  replaced  Western imports with Asian partners, the United States, who is the world’s leading energy consumer, is highly prone to shocks in oil and gas markets.  European nations also highly depend on Russia for copper, aluminum, wheat and other commodities.

Hungary and Belarus: President Orban of Hungary is regarded as a mole in the European Union. Although Hungary is a NATO nations but it has strong ties with Russia. In fact,  Hungary rejected British plea to deploy  NATO soldiers to protect them from Russian aggression. Hungarian government has consistently failed to veto any EU sanctions against Russia.  Lukashenko the President of Belarus is a dependable ally of Putin. His country which which borders the northern part of Ukraine is just 100km to Kiev. And his country could join forces with Russia or can be used as airfields, transportation and logistics purposes.

Cryptocurrencies: I am not insinuating that Cryptos should be used as a means of financing war, neither am I supporting Russia invasion of Ukraine. But some analyst have observed that the reason why Russia is giving cryptocurrencies the green light is because it could be used to bypass the the global financial systems Analyst insists that Russia companies have many cryptocurrency instruments at their disposal to evade sanctions, example are the so-called digital ruble and ransomware.

Since Trump the US government is Decapitated, it cant unify its population anymore, china and india will side with russia against the fascist western left.
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It wouldn't surprise me if he goes for other nearby countries, such as Belarus, Sweden or Finland, western countries that do not belong in the NATO and could potentially be an easier target. He has already threatened Finland and Sweden if they decided to enter NATO.

Belarus is their ally anyway, and they are using their territory to attack Ukraine - so we can say that this is aggression by two countries against one independent country. Unfortunately, it will not be easy for the countries you mentioned to remain intact, because the world has shown that it will not intervene militarily in the defense of any non-NATO country. Even if the two countries are in NATO, the procedure that the military organization has requires all members to give the green light before military action is launched, which can take weeks. It may look good on paper, but in practice, it is a bulky machine that is difficult to start.

This isn't a simple war against Ukraine, but a war against established values we took for granted, which is border integrity and peace, in the European continent, values that till now, were left intact after World War 2.

The EU was weak in 1991 when the wars in the Balkans began, the greatest crimes since World War II were committed - and they imposed sanctions on the attacked countries on arms imports so that they could not defend themselves. The EU is still weak today, and instead of strengthening Ukraine militarily, they are calculating with mostly ineffective sanctions in order not to anger Russia more than they should.
I've also read that Russia is invading Ukraine through Belarus, quite ironic that it's practically assisting Russia on the invasion. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin and Belarus itself "united" into one powerful country, since it was considered to be Russian territory since the epoch of the Soviet Union. Who knows, Putin might be envisioning its rebirth, by acquiring their old territories.

Finland is now planning to enter NATO, however, I didn't know it was such a hassle in order to assist their allies. After seeing such indifference from the EU and NATO, I wouldn't be surprised if Turkey decided to eventually invade Greece, let's keep in mind that we share quite a few similarities with Russia - Ukraine conflict.
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But Where is Putin getting his guts to invade Ukraine?

As we all know Russia has started the invasion of Ukraine regardless of the threats of NATO and its Allies. Where is the confidence and strength of Russia coming from?

Power intoxicates, yes i believe that because Russia has that kind of confidence that with its power, no any country will be able to to stand it millitary work force of Russia but history may just be about to set in, lets relate this to individuals, once we see that we have money or been in charge of things, we tend not to be approachable and our real self begin to manifest just as in case of Russia, before the invassion, Putin stated that he has no plan on invading Ukraine just to deceive the world.
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It wouldn't surprise me if he goes for other nearby countries, such as Belarus, Sweden or Finland, western countries that do not belong in the NATO and could potentially be an easier target. He has already threatened Finland and Sweden if they decided to enter NATO.

Belarus is their ally anyway, and they are using their territory to attack Ukraine - so we can say that this is aggression by two countries against one independent country. Unfortunately, it will not be easy for the countries you mentioned to remain intact, because the world has shown that it will not intervene militarily in the defense of any non-NATO country. Even if the two countries are in NATO, the procedure that the military organization has requires all members to give the green light before military action is launched, which can take weeks. It may look good on paper, but in practice, it is a bulky machine that is difficult to start.

This isn't a simple war against Ukraine, but a war against established values we took for granted, which is border integrity and peace, in the European continent, values that till now, were left intact after World War 2.

The EU was weak in 1991 when the wars in the Balkans began, the greatest crimes since World War II were committed - and they imposed sanctions on the attacked countries on arms imports so that they could not defend themselves. The EU is still weak today, and instead of strengthening Ukraine militarily, they are calculating with mostly ineffective sanctions in order not to anger Russia more than they should.
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Here and there I have spent some time in Russia because my father was had an engineering job here and also I have some relatives who live there.
The highest percentage of the Russian population is alcoholic, they'll do every damn thing to not experience alcohol withdrawal and have a bottle of Vodka at hand.
I've seen that. Road workers are hired to work at night, but they just work for maybe half of their shift and then they sleep drunk in their trucks till morning. That's why nothing is ever done in that country and roads are full of holes.
I've seen a video from a guy who travelled through Russia and came into a village to ask for directions, but there was nobody around. He finally met an old lady who explained to him that it's Saturday afternoon and everybody is drunk at home at this hour. Cheesy

It wouldn't surprise me if he goes for other nearby countries, such as Belarus, Sweden or Finland, western countries that do not belong in the NATO and could potentially be an easier target. He has already threatened Finland and Sweden if they decided to enter NATO.

Finland is going to vote on joining NATO very soon.
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Guts?  He's just doing the West a solid to take people's minds off the covaids die-off as it starts to ramp up, and to give an excuse for the monetary system collapse.  I'd bet money that they've got this whole thing worked out so I'm not particularly concerned.  Putin is one of Kissinger/Schwab's 'Global Leaders for Tomorrow' clan along with all his 'enemies' leading the 'Western' countries and stocking their cabinets after all.

I also wouldn't rule out this (fairly obvious propaganda from a suspect site):

  https://southfront.org/russian-military-operation-prevented-launch-of-u-s-bio-laboratories-in-ukraine-kiev-hiding-evidence/

There had been some pretty solid reporting of the bio-weapons development labs in these Western controlled FSU countries for quite a long time.  Since I pay attention to this stuff, I was fairly well primed to look at the covaids scamdemic through this lens when he first obviously fake born-viral footage of people dropping dead and 'bat-soup' psy-ops and such from China started to come out.

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Incredibly, Putin has attacked from virtually every direction, and Russian paratroopers are descending with almost no resistance near Kyiv - and the fall of the capital seems to be a matter of time. Although the Ukrainian army is far weaker, this is practically a surrender without any major resistance.

Given the cowards from the UK, EU, Japan, and the US, it is no wonder that Putin has decided to head west - Ukraine today, another country tomorrow - the elite in Brussels must be shaking their pants because they know Putin can walk into their backyard until the beginning of summer only if he wishes.
It wouldn't surprise me if he goes for other nearby countries, such as Belarus, Sweden or Finland, western countries that do not belong in the NATO and could potentially be an easier target. He has already threatened Finland and Sweden if they decided to enter NATO.

This isn't a simple war against Ukraine, but a war against established values we took for granted, which is border integrity and peace, in the European continent, values that till now, were left intact after World War 2.
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We will return to this conversation in a week.

I just hope you didn't think I was on Russia's side in this conflict, but it just seemed to me that they were progressing without the greater resistance that I personally expected to happen. But I know that many Ukrainians will not leave their homes without a fight, and I hope that you will show the greatest possible resistance to every terrorist and that you will have no mercy for any of them.

If you need inspiration, remember Vukovar, which with less than 2000 defenders resisted for 87 days the military force of over 36 000 Serbian butchers - when they ran out of ammunition, the city fell.

The Vukovar water tower, which is a symbol of the city, shone in the colors of your flag in support of the Ukrainian people, and Dinamo Zagreb fans also expressed their support for Ukraine in the match against Seville.



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Incredibly, Putin has attacked from virtually every direction, and Russian paratroopers are descending with almost no resistance near Kyiv - and the fall of the capital seems to be a matter of time. Although the Ukrainian army is far weaker, this is practically a surrender without any major resistance.
We will return to this conversation in a week.

Just yesterday, I managed to pick up some members of my family from Kyiv and moved them to the south of the country, but unfortunately I see real operational reports that say that columns of Russian equipment are moving closer to my house (despite 3,000 dead).

And I cannot describe what pain is in my heart because I am from the region where they speak and think in Russian, moreover, until yesterday, I had a normal attitude towards Russia, since every second family in Ukraine has close relatives in a brotherly country. I think when I fully take care of the safety of my family, I will also consider all possible options for protecting my land.

At the moment, battles are being fought near Kiev with sabotage groups and the regular army of Russia, but it is unlikely that Kyiv will be captured, since, according to my calculations, at least 20,000 volunteers received weapons in the last 24 hours.

These are videos from the last couple of hours.


Map of hostilities at 21.00 UTC

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But Where is Putin getting his guts to invade Ukraine?

This guy? LOL



I don't think Putin's guts have ever been in question.  Even our president never questioned whether or not Putin would invade, and he's got dementia.  There are those who question whether or not Putin is smart enough to know if the pros outweigh the cons, but I don't think I've heard anyone say Putin didn't have the guts to invade...  He's sort of known for being a man's man who is fearless.  Otherwise, he wouldn't be playing the games he's playing to try and get Russia banned from SWIFT and escalate the replacement of the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency.  So far, it seems it's the world that doesn't have the guts to act, although seeing the UN response team be activated for the first time in history is a good start.
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Before anyone condemns Russia, if you were to be in V. Putin's shoe what will you have done?

The rationale behind an invasion is logical. Anyone that would suggest they'd do something differently is lying. Putin cannot have Ukraine join the USSR, he recognizes the West is weak in foreign policy and will have no other opportunity to invade, and so there leaves no alternative. Doesn't take military strategist to put together his motivation or why he might be so brazen to launch a full scale invasion.

I hate conflict, but I do hope NATO gets bigger balls.. but ya, Putin has been dangerous for a long time, and if Joe and/or NATO haven't been doing what they're supposed to be doing in preparing, and being willing to pull the trigger, to shut down those nuclear & military facilities, then we're all probably going to be fucked one way or the other.

NATO will do nothing, they are cowardly and don't want their economies to suffer over a country that is meaningless to them. Having read through some of the sanction exclusions on Russia, it's amusing to see how many holes are carved out for countries that are unwilling to to sacrifice hits to their economies to support Ukraine.

And Russia still isn't banned from SWIFT. So that should tell you something about how serious all these sanctions are. We're far away from any bullets being exchanged if they can't even agree on the sanctions.
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Before anyone condemns Russia, if you were to be in V. Putin's shoe what will you have done?
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Biden

None of this would be happening if Biden didn't sacrifice Afghanistan to a bunch of 8th century barbarians.

Trump was the only recent President that stood up to Putin & Russia - it's not a coincidence that every time a modern Democratic party in the US wins the majority, there is a subsequent Russian incursion that happens under that Administration.
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Don't announce anything, just bomb the shit out of him.

There is that thinly-veiled threat of nuclear response that Putin made in his war declaration yesterday. That's a bit of a deterrent I think. And you can't be sure if he's bluffing.
I think that the mentality of Western countries' population is very different from the mentality of post-soviet union countries. I'm from Germany and it was a cultural shock for me when I spent some time in Russia.
Guys, we don't understand that if we protect human rights, laws, constitution and we think that it's bad to steal/rob/disrespect, it doesn't automatically mean that other countries and/or nations share the same.
You can't imagine how someone in your country will frighten or give money to someone to vote in elections but in soviet countries that happens.
In your country, you know that you need a valid prescription to get RX drugs from pharmacies but in post-soviet countries, you can get them without a prescription, including some hard drugs.
Do you know that you need to be someone's relative or from an elite/rich family in order to have a good job?
Can you imagine that in some post-soviet countries you had to give a bribe in order to become a student?

Yeah, this is the mentality of Russia and some post-soviet countries. Post-soviet countries understood that it's bad and they see how western culture provides better quality of life than life that depends on bribes but Russia Putin doesn't want that progress.

Compare American billionaires to Russian billionaires and you'll see a significant difference even there.
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Incredibly, Putin has attacked from virtually every direction, and Russian paratroopers are descending with almost no resistance near Kyiv - and the fall of the capital seems to be a matter of time. Although the Ukrainian army is far weaker, this is practically a surrender without any major resistance.

Given the cowards from the UK, EU, Japan, and the US, it is no wonder that Putin has decided to head west - Ukraine today, another country tomorrow - the elite in Brussels must be shaking their pants because they know Putin can walk into their backyard until the beginning of summer only if he wishes.
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Was kinda expecting this to happen eventually. What I wasn't expecting is the weak ass response from Western leaders. Biden, Trudeau and Johnson are jokes, no wonder Putin feel he can take what he wants with impunity. It'll probably take US, UK and EU a few more weeks of bickering before they can agree to a proper response but considering how well the Crimea invasion went for Russia, I'm expecting this one to end the same way.

Biden

Yeah, that veggie ain't gonna do anything against that bear.
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He needs to be eliminated before he can press that button.

That's not physically possible. If he wants to launch nukes - he will.
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IMO his guts started back with Obama, when everyone downplayed the threat that Russia poses, and everyone allowed Russia to keep building up their military & nuclear programs.. his guts, and finances, were further pumped up with Trump.. and then slow Joe combined with the fallout of a politicized pandemic is the icing on the cake.

I hate conflict, but I do hope NATO gets bigger balls.. but ya, Putin has been dangerous for a long time, and if Joe and/or NATO haven't been doing what they're supposed to be doing in preparing, and being willing to pull the trigger, to shut down those nuclear & military facilities, then we're all probably going to be fucked one way or the other.

So much unnecessary loss of human life because of a mad man on a power trip. Angry
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