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Topic: where is the anonimity? - page 2. (Read 3839 times)
I don't think that is a big problem. Blockchain.info's location service is really approximative. Most of my transactions are located at the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. This is a big non-sense, except if at least 1/4 of the nodes are located on a boat. But. Wait ! And if the Altantide was there, accumulating bitcoins for the World domination plan ?! And if Satoshi was their God ?! I think that now, mates, you can start create 40 threads discussing the probability for Satoshi to be Atlantide's God or King !
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Surpirsed not much has been said about Dash which seems to be a good way to break the trail of ownership for smaller volume sat least. Net fees would be less than using a mixer.
Yep, because Dash has been pre-mined / instamined like crazy at the start to make specific people very rich. {No matter what they say now about
airdrops etc..} The biggest thing about most Alt coins is the trust you have to build at the start, and it did not happen with Dash. They have a
excellent implementation, but they had a false start.
I was looking at the blockchain.info site, and I noticed that there is a lot of information that can be found out about transactions. Including IP addresses to and from and everything else. Where does the anonimity come in if their is any?
No where. Bitcoin is not anonymous (http://www.bitcoinisnotanonymous.com/). It is pseudo-anonymous. This is a big difference.
There is no identity can be linked into your personal profile unless you will exposed your bitcoin address to the mass. But you can dispose your bitcoin address and use a new one without worry.
The anonymity is within using several addresses. Just use more than one.
Yep using a new address for every transaction could possibly lower the risk of finding your main wallet and your identity.
Ya, im not sure why many people still telling others that bitcoin is almost free transaction costs and anonymous. Its not in both cases.
For africa paying 0.000X for transaction (to be able to be verified in normal time) its big amount of $
You're right about Bitcoin being described as anonymous, but even in some of the poorest countries in Africa, the 0.0001 btc miners fee would not be considered much. For africa paying 0.000X for transaction (to be able to be verified in normal time) its big amount of $
Especially if that person has access to a computer and internet.
I was looking at the blockchain.info site, and I noticed that there is a lot of information that can be found out about transactions. Including IP addresses to and from and everything else. Where does the anonimity come in if their is any?
no any anonimity
The anonymity is within using several addresses. Just use more than one.
Incorrect. Users can use taint analysis to establish a link between the few addresses. If the user accidentally spend inputs in two different address in one TX, it would be a clear indication of their link.yeah there is even an online service called walletexplorer.com that everybody can use. it does the taint analysis and also has a database of exchanger's wallets for example so you sometimes can see who does a specific bitcoin address belong to.
You don't need to enter your credentials to get a bitcoin address. That's the only anonymous thing about Bitcoin.
The anonymity is within using several addresses. Just use more than one.
Incorrect. Users can use taint analysis to establish a link between the few addresses. If the user accidentally spend inputs in two different address in one TX, it would be a clear indication of their link.
The anonymity is within using several addresses. Just use more than one.
On blockchain.info, the first IP relayed from is inaccurate. It isn't the origin but it is the first node which relayed your transaction. The only information you can find is the address origin and destination. Bitcoin wasn't designed to be anonymous in the first place. Use a mixer if you want to be pseudonym.
bitcoin its medium is already anonymous.
you know that bitcoin address is a form of cryptography, almost all of the addresses is generic, except the issue that someone found a funded address.
you know that bitcoin address is a form of cryptography, almost all of the addresses is generic, except the issue that someone found a funded address.
I think you are mistaken. From what I can remember, blockchain.info only shows you the IP of the block relayer. Anyway, there is "total anonymity" from the way that your personal details are nowhere related to your bitcoin address. Sure, people can track transactions, but from whom? The only way you can compromise your anonymity is to broadcast to everyone that a certain address is yours, and tie your personal detaild to it.
The thing is people wanna to hide their information as their portfolio ,soo bitcoin shows no face or adress,the balance well they are exposed always to others to see it and why would someone be tracing someone coins just to know how much someone has? For me i dont bother to others be able to see my balance ,usually is near 0,10btc then i invest the bitcoins.
There are plenty of reasons for ppl wanting to know how much money you have, and plenty of reasons why ppl dont like it.
The thing is people wanna to hide their information as their portfolio ,soo bitcoin shows no face or adress,the balance well they are exposed always to others to see it and why would someone be tracing someone coins just to know how much someone has?For me i dont bother to others be able to see my balance ,usually is near 0,10btc then i invest the bitcoins.
You can use blockchain.info via Tor. So if you create a wallet this way, it would be next to impossible to prove it's yours. After that, with several addresses and if you're smart, all your transactions will be very private. But everything depends on what you do. If you order a pizza, the company which delivers it to your door will know your street address.
Bitcoin transaction analysis by itself only reveals the imprint of individual in the block chain, it does not reveal any real-world identities. If you are mixing bitcoin and ANY service where you share your personal information that mean you are not longer anonymous.
It is possible to be located that way: Imagine a restaurant accepts bitcoin and uses a fixed address for their over-the-counter transactions.
If your btc address will ever surface it won't be hard for someone to pinpoint your exact location at that time or learn your habits.
To protect the transactions you have done well you would need some accounts and well someone can easy dig till find the account and ammount,if you deposit into exchanges you can cover your traces but you wont see the transaction soo you cant confirm when the btc has arrived into the wallet,but bitcoin even showing ip doesnt has a name on it,soo can be anyone on that space.
Ya, im not sure why many people still telling others that bitcoin is almost free transaction costs and anonymous. Its not in both cases.
For africa paying 0.000X for transaction (to be able to be verified in normal time) its big amount of $
For africa paying 0.000X for transaction (to be able to be verified in normal time) its big amount of $
You can use blockchain.info via Tor. So if you create a wallet this way, it would be next to impossible to prove it's yours. After that, with several addresses and if you're smart, all your transactions will be very private. But everything depends on what you do. If you order a pizza, the company which delivers it to your door will know your street address.
I just would like to add to this, that often the anonymity might not depend on you. You might be the most careful person with bitcoin, but what about others you interact with? Each additional step you add to make yourself anonymous with bitcoin is only one more possible point of f**king it up. If not from your side, then from services behind people you are dependent now. You need to factor this in your plans. Bitcoin was never designed to be anonymous, thus using in a very anonymous way is a challenging task.
Because of that, the procedure to use bitcoin anonymous requires number of steps, such as using tor, making new addresses, using mixurers, etc. The more complex the procedure, the more likely it is to fail. You can use bitcoin do it 100 times correctly, but one time you do something wrong, and that will be end of your privacy.
I can recommend this recent defcon presentation Dont fuck it up though. Its not specific to bitcoin, but makes very good points about maintaining anonymity through some complex measures for hackers. All these measures introduce new possible points of failure, and off course, as shown in the presentation, ppl do fail a lot because of that.
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