WHICH COIN HAS THE LOWEST ANNUAL CREATION INFLATION ?

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Quote from: balu2 on July 04, 2016, 10:37:54 AM

2014 bullrun was 11 months straight upside.
Uno market is hard to pump and dump. Community won't tollerate it. Now last scammer Vern is out. Future is bright and lasting growth is on the cards.

This thread is now about Unobtanium

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Is there a graph of UNO emission curve? I can find one for Monero or Bitcoin but not for UNO

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WAVES has a set supply at 100,000,000 and rewards will be fees. So zero inflation I guess

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For the record, I didn't shill anything. I said several times that I think the dev instamined digitaldarkducknote due to very fast emission and low hashrate at the beginning (if that's shilling, then OK, I guess), and I only hold a small amount I mined. I would never touch PoS coins, especially ICO garbage like NXT, NEM, and Qora. I came in and tried to answer OP's question based on what I knew about some low inflation coins. There's only been one coin getting shilled in this thread, and it hasn't been by me.

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Sure, no hard feelings for jwin. He seems intelligent and is just like everyone else. All good Grin

If he just wouldn't hate on my investement so intensely that'd be great. Roll Eyes

About XDN: i haven't determined if XDN works how advertised but i'm sure if it does a low-inflation-coin can just implement that feature while implementing a fair launch and low inflation into a coin that didn't have it to begin with is an impossible task.
The monetary properties of a coin are there from launch or they aren't. It can't be changed in the future like some anon-feature that's trivial to add to any existing coin if and only if it would actually work.

I personally don't see a lot of value in anon-coins because LTC is the most effective BTC-mixer there is. Makes anon-coins nearly pointless imo.

Also note how messages on the blockchain would actually bloat it real fast in case it was ever used by a broader audience. Blockchains as messaging systems aren't really viable currently imo. Also usecase is questionable but i said that already.

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Quote from: BitcoinNational on July 05, 2016, 06:57:03 AM

i liked ducknote, but i liked UNO more.

we can agree to disagree, jwin is a respectable fellow, so just a little more roughhousing and teasing, like your math sucks, UN will emit far less than 1000 coins over the next 12 months ... still has more halvings to come too ... currently in era #10 Wink

so what do we got:

iX : 0% (no more blockreward) network supported by fees
i0 : 0% (no more blockreward) network supported by fees
UNO : under 0.5% (micro-blockreward for next 300 years)
digitalnote : 0.3%
NXT: ?
NEM: ?
QoRa: ?

You're right, it's about 540 UNO in next year. I took block reward times number of blocks in a year last night, and I must have had wrong block reward. This time accounted for decay that will happen in 100k blocks and everything, and inflation comes out to ~0.3%, so very similar to digitaldarkducknote.

NXT, NEM, and QORA are all 0% - tx fees alone reward "forgers".

As an aside, and I'm really not trying to push the dnote just correct misinformation, but the messaging feature is different than bitmessage because in bitmessage the messages are transient - if you're not on the network when it's sent, or within 2 days, then you will never receive it. Digitalnote has an option to put it on the blockchain where it can received at any point in the future, or send it by mempool in which case is "self-destructs" after 14 hours or so.

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i liked ducknote, but i liked UNO more.

we can agree to disagree, jwin is a respectable fellow, so just a little more roughhousing and teasing, like your math sucks, UN will emit far less than 1000 coins over the next 12 months ... still has more halvings to come too ... currently in era #10 Wink

so what do we got:

iX : 0% (no more blockreward) network supported by fees
i0 : 0% (no more blockreward) network supported by fees
UNO : under 0.5% (micro-blockreward for next 300 years)
digitalnote : 0.3%
NXT: ?
NEM: ?
QoRa: ?

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Quote from: balu2 on July 04, 2016, 11:26:14 PM

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OP didn't ask about anon-coins either Mr. anon-pos-shitcoin-pumper. Can you link the ann of your "interesting bearing" ducktales-coin?
you understand 'interest = inflation', do you? Interest is debasement too.

So 'encrypted messaging' is what gives your coin value? lol (bitmessage is for free btw)

ann-link to your shitcoin please

It has lower inflation than the coin your promoting:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-digitalnote-xdn-icco-announce-news-1082745

Digitaldarkducknote has ~6.86B coins in circulation and will emit around 19.7M in the next twelve months for an inflation rate of about 0.3%.

Unobtanium has ~197k coins in circulation and will emit around 2600 in the next year for an inflation rate of about 1.3%.

Sorry to bring math into the discussion, maybe if you post some more memes you'll convince some folks that UNO is really a great opportunity for...something.

I don't hold any of the coins I mentioned except for digitalnote, and I don't hold very much of that. I was just mentioning coins that I knew had very little or no inflation, and also taking the time to call a shitcoin a shitcoin. Keep bashing ducknote and derailing the thread, the fucks I give are approximately zero. Happy independence day

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Quote from: jwinterm on July 04, 2016, 10:59:27 PM

Quote from: balu2 on July 04, 2016, 08:51:51 PM

Quote from: jwinterm on July 04, 2016, 12:30:49 PM

Lol brigading shitcoiners invading threads and spamming memes, the hallmarks of a legitimate and serious project. Again, sorry for provoking them op, may your thread rest in peace.

lol, go buy some ducknotes Tongue

Shall we discuss the distribution of NXt? Or the history of closed source Qora?
What do you have to offer to OP besides heavily monopolized tokens?

Please enlighten us with the alternatives to "the one".

Got low inflation POW to show? Which one?

I have some ducknotes from mining early on, but it's dead in the water because it emitted its coins so fast that people don't want to invest in something they feel (understandably so) might be controlled by one or a few early miners, and duckdarkdigitalnotes actually offer some improvements in the technology that it forked from, such as encrypted on and off blockchain messaging and interest bearing deposits, unlike the shitcoin you're pushing repeatedly which only had fast emission and no additional features or technological improvements.

The OP didn't ask about POW v. POS or anything else, merely lowest annual creation inflation. Keep staying off topic and shilling your rare and valuable garbage, I'm sure you're attracting lots of "investors".

OP didn't ask about anon-coins either Mr. anon-pos-shitcoin-pumper. Can you link the ann of your "interesting bearing" ducktales-coin?
you understand 'interest = inflation', do you? Interest is debasement too.

So 'encrypted messaging' is what gives your coin value? lol (bitmessage is for free btw)

ann-link to your shitcoin please

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Quote from: balu2 on July 04, 2016, 08:51:51 PM

Quote from: jwinterm on July 04, 2016, 12:30:49 PM

Lol brigading shitcoiners invading threads and spamming memes, the hallmarks of a legitimate and serious project. Again, sorry for provoking them op, may your thread rest in peace.

lol, go buy some ducknotes Tongue

Shall we discuss the distribution of NXt? Or the history of closed source Qora?
What do you have to offer to OP besides heavily monopolized tokens?

Please enlighten us with the alternatives to "the one".

Got low inflation POW to show? Which one?

I have some ducknotes from mining early on, but it's dead in the water because it emitted its coins so fast that people don't want to invest in something they feel (understandably so) might be controlled by one or a few early miners, and duckdarkdigitalnotes actually offer some improvements in the technology that it forked from, such as encrypted on and off blockchain messaging and interest bearing deposits, unlike the shitcoin you're pushing repeatedly which only had fast emission and no additional features or technological improvements.

The OP didn't ask about POW v. POS or anything else, merely lowest annual creation inflation. Keep staying off topic and shilling your rare and valuable garbage, I'm sure you're attracting lots of "investors".

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Quote from: jwinterm on July 04, 2016, 12:30:49 PM

Lol brigading shitcoiners invading threads and spamming memes, the hallmarks of a legitimate and serious project. Again, sorry for provoking them op, may your thread rest in peace.

lol, go buy some ducknotes Tongue

Shall we discuss the distribution of NXt? Or the history of closed source Qora?
What do you have to offer to OP besides heavily monopolized tokens?

Please enlighten us with the alternatives to "the one".

Got low inflation POW to show? Which one?

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Lol brigading shitcoiners invading threads and spamming memes, the hallmarks of a legitimate and serious project. Again, sorry for provoking them op, may your thread rest in peace.

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2014 bullrun was 11 months straight upside.
Uno market is hard to pump and dump. Community won't tollerate it. Now last scammer Vern is out. Future is bright and lasting growth is on the cards.

This thread is now about Unobtanium

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ARRRRH!
m8te!!

Wait UNO last pumped in 2014, we kinda of suck at pumping.

Last price spike lasted 20min (x3) looks like it was BigVern attempting to corner the market, later we had his cryptsy UN coins seized 'lawfully', and he then dumped his backup stack. So the latest UNO shitpumper was BigVern. And if he can't pump it, doubt any one could ... cuz it might be the most transparent chain in crypto.

the UNO shitpumpers truck
we'll be bigger than URO!

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Omg I've unleashed the UNO shitpumpers Shocked

My apologies OP...

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Uno can be directly traded for precious metals at coaex or with other people in the community btw if that is what people are looking for. Uno-community is a cluster of gold and silverbugs.

99% of other coins pale im comparison especially in a fiat-meltdown-scenario.

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Quote from: jwinterm on July 03, 2016, 10:02:32 PM

I recommended coins that have 0% inflation, as requested by the OP. I'm not a fan of any of them, but at least the don't pretend to be something that they're not, i.e., fairly distributed PoW coins.

You're talking out of your ass, sorry.

Here's the table, blocktime was 3 minutes, always. Nothing was ever changed in the emission. The coin forked exactly once and that was to implement auxpow (merge mining) with bitcoin.
Everything is documented in the blockexplorer. Care to provide something to back your talk up? Probably not,eh?

Blockreward fell exponential. There is no better way to produce a low inflation coin.
Uno is bitcoin on steroids.

B=blockreward

Have a magnificent day.

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Quote from: gustav on July 03, 2016, 09:46:38 PM

Quote from: jwinterm on June 30, 2016, 09:20:27 PM

See NXT, NEM, QORA, etc.

Quote from: jwinterm on July 03, 2016, 06:11:01 PM

super fast emission curves.

You recommend coins that all had their entire supply generated in the genesisblock but then dare to call Uno 'super fast emission'. This is inconsistent reasoning. You've got ulterior motives. gtfo

I recommended coins that have 0% inflation, as requested by the OP. I'm not a fan of any of them, but at least the don't pretend to be something that they're not, i.e., fairly distributed PoW coins.

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Quote from: jwinterm on June 30, 2016, 09:20:27 PM

See NXT, NEM, QORA, etc.

Quote from: jwinterm on July 03, 2016, 06:11:01 PM

super fast emission curves.

You recommend coins that all had their entire supply generated in the genesisblock but then dare to call Uno 'super fast emission'. This is inconsistent reasoning. You've got ulterior motives. gtfo

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Quote from: jwinterm on July 03, 2016, 06:11:01 PM

trolling clone coin shitcoiners with super fast emission curves.

Another coin with really fast emission, and thus really low creation inflation is digitalnote (formerly darknote, formerly ducknote), which actually does offer some innovations over the coin it forked from (bytecoin), such as encrypted on and off blockchain messaging, as well as interest bearing deposits that are being worked into a proof-of-activity to supplement proof-of-work.

UNO 2 year very competitive and public mining phase on the most developed mining network ... Difficulty was high troughout. Unlike say ... cryptonote tech which was novel, unknown and obscured to the general mining public.

That's 'super fast emission curves' ... unlike say ... every POS coin under the sun that mines out in 10k blocks (@30sec) ... no that's a-okay.

Then ignore the pile of ICO ... we just premined it all group. With devs that 'cash in' $millions ... cuz got to diversify before they realize dis shit is an untested beta version.

Wiener is a red herring. And I don't think he owns much of any thing. If he does then he has done well about not pumping and not dumping for 3 years. But I am sure like some super villain he's just timing the market for the perfect moment.

Mean while LOWEST ANNUAL CREATION INFLATION ?
That is also know as cost to hold, or cost to preserve wealth.
Sometimes innovation comes with sticking to the classical model of money and working with the most reliable tech, UNO did that, what a shit clone Wink

ps UNO is directly trade able for a half dozen anon coins Wink

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