Blacklisting him from DT1 did what exactly? NOTHING it changes NOTHING. He is still on DT2 and according to robovac he is more entrenched in DT with more robust powers to trust abuse than when he was on DT1.
Theymos appears to be gradually catching on. I mean the new flagging system is certain an indication he is NOT complicit with the observably scamming and untrustworthy DT's on the Dirty Turds poll.
On the other hand it was CLEARLY explained to him that merit and trust were already fragile and wide open to gaming and to keep them separated as much as possible (although that only makes it slightly harder for a single group to cease control of both control systems. What does he do?? ties the FIRMLY together so that merit = trust. This seems an unthinkable move and indicated either pure foolish trust in humans NOT to be corrupted by financial gain who he seems to believe will do the fair and correct thing even when that would cost them financially ...and he made them accountable only too...... EACH OTHER. LOL
I mean surely even one so "hopeful" as Theymos can not miss the FACT that a huge proportion of DT1 all feature in each others top 20 fans and recipients ... in fact they are LOADED UP with each others merit gifts to each other.
If he could someone write that off as well..." they are all the best posters in each others minds" simple as that.
He would then have to double down on that foolishness to miss the FACT that huge proportions of DT1 have OBSERVABLE AND CLEAR INSTANCES OF FINANCIALLY MOTIVATED WRONG DOING in some cases clear scamming. AND YET these are all the most TRUSTWORTHY MEMBERS in each others minds apparently?? LOL
He would then have to super double down not to notice how the same groups of people support FLAGRANT TRUST ABUSE on members that have ZERO INSTANCES of financially motivated wrong doing and in some cases are the members that fought these proven scammers on DT1 and pushed for a 2 000 000 000 USD air drop as compensation.
He would then need have huge chunks of his brain removed to not NOTICE these same group are mostly dominating the HIGHEST PAYING SIG CAMPAIGNS that their fellow DT pals are in control of as scampaign managers.
He would then need the remaining parts of his mind to be destroyed to not accept that the moderators here will mark AS BAD a report of a post that just blurts out " who made this cunt bleed" " ignore this used tampon" " other sexual deviance that brings not argument nor attempt to debate the OP in anyway"
Then DELETE on topic and relevant posts that corroborate their specific points with observable events that those posting this kind of low level insults report LOL
We do not believe Theymos is at that sub human perhaps even sub TmaN level of stupidity.
So if he is not stupid and not complicit with these DT members stripping the board of free speech and its rev streams then what is WRONG with Theymos?? why tolerate members being trust abused, why tolerate all this obvious gaming and scamming, why tie merit and trust, why make idiots like tman and other scum bags merit sources??
We speculate the answer is when you spend a lot of time and effort creating experimental systems you want to wait before scrapping them as damaging garbage because that is like admitting a waste of time and effort. ALSO in his favor the systems SHOULD become more ROBUST against this systematic abuse and profiteering from this abuse as they organically grow. SHOULD but we say it will take forever and then break down in to abusing FACTIONS that will abuse everyone except opposing factions. So you will have various groups of DT spring up over time that will group together and be forced into an understanding we are free to abuse all others except factions that can create a MAD situation.
You will notice Theymos does not debate well when discussing this situation. It is a one liner here and there usually something that is quite easy to debunk using observable instances and you will find you thread deleted if you ASK too directly about anything too specific and personal. He claimed cryptohunter (who "may" have a case for being pissed at getting trust abused for whistleblowing on a proven scammer who was randomly attacking cryptohunter at the time, only to find when he voiced a complaint that 2 of the scammers KNOW ASSOCIATES doubled down on the trust abuse and ADMITTED IN BLACK AND WHITE he gave the scam tag because cryptohunter presented observable instances about his scamming pal.) LOL may have a case for being upset. This is the total reverse of what the trust system is FOR RIGHT? you dont have scammers giving scam tags to people that demonstrate they are scammers LOL
However because cryptohunter did not say "the lovely person lauda has trust abused me" but said this scamming piece of fucking dirt lauda has trust abused me I want this croatian scamming shit stain. Then that means you are CRAZY AND INSANE . Also apparently cryptohunter (according to theymos) started spreading LIES?? when asked in a thread to present the lies THE THREAD VANISHED??
So what can we take from this. Theymos we believe does not bother looking deeply into the history of members here at all. He simply believes what excellent members like suchmoon says, also probably does not take kindly to his systems being called a bunch of crap. (the new flagging system is not crap it is excellent but again, weak implementation leaving the old system there in place and grandfathering in ITS ABUSE LOL. So you develop eventually an excellent system then hamstring it straight away to appease the abusers.
Theymos does not seem to be worried about a few innocent members being fucked by his babies that the systems of control have shit out. He is thinking let's sweep these TEETHING issues under the rug and it will all sort itself out as it grows and develops. It will self regulate eventually and I can be free of any accountability for the actions of 2M potential scammers and freaks I don't know. Smart move and yes good idea. Who would want the final buck to stop with them as this grows and grows.
DT could work but you need training wheels....
Any DT1 found guilty of financially motivated wrong doing at any time = out entirely forever all merits send and received deleted.
Any DT1 found guilty of using the trust system to punish people with ZERO instances of financially motivated wrong doing = out entirely forever all merits send and received deleted.
Any merit source giving merit to even 1 post like " who made this cunt bleed" = instantly removed and all merits sent and received deleted.
Like with all babies they need some discipline. Theymos is like that father that watches the increasingly violent and greedy children hitting the other kids and says well I will just keep having more kids then they will all learn that if you hit people you will get hit back one day and things will just sort themselves out and I can watch tv all day.
Actually theymos just keeps handing the violent and greedy kids increasingly larger weapons and meth (merit source powers and tie to trust) and telling himself well i want this all to self regulate as soon as possible this may be the quickest way. I mean I may lose a few innocent kids but let's think of the bigger picture soon I will have no responsibility the natural pecking order will be sorted out and only the toughest will survive. These won't eventually attack each other because they know it is too risky. That's great Theymos but your DT/MS babies however you rotate them will still be a bunch of violent, greedy, net negative bunch of scum bags when they deal with other kids they view as soft targets. You can watch tv ... your offsping will fuck over every other person they get a chance to.
That analogy is not even as bad as things are here, because the most violent greedy and successful manipulators are able to power up who they please including their alts and totally ensure they are accountable and held in check by themselves and pals (who benefit from this system also who will not rock the boat).
Theymos needs to get out of his arm chair, turn off the simpsons and start banning and blacklisting those with UNDENIABLE instances of financially motivated wrong doing and those that seek to put scam tags on those with ZERO instances of financially motivated wrong doing. FOR A START.
Then tackle the prime cancer creation of mert. Then have another few simpsons episodes and see where we are at. No point waiting for the magic fairies to tell the corrupt DT and merit sources to suddenly start allowing those that are not going to be fully supportive and complicit in their racket a place of DT. You will just end up rotating scum bags on DT. Do you rotate your used shit paper? (well pharmacist probably shouldn't answer) no no no you flush that away and get a new roll.
Get rid of that low functioning corrupt sig spamming mod hilarious and co. That dumb cretin just gave 8 merits to a post that should by the board rules be DELETED.
I am going to post " do not feed the troll" when ever we like and especially on his threads. Fucking weasel that he is.
So we think he sees it but thinks it is too much work to fix it and want to see if it will fix itself.
It wont. He only needs to demonstrate to REAL SCAMMERS who ARE REALLY financially dangerous they are out and not coming back. He need to make people realize if you are giving merit for shit you are NOT going to remain merit source and all your sent and received merits will be deleted.
They will all fall in line.
They can try to cover each others asses with excuses, and other bullshit but they can not because the observable instances are there. The only real danger to cover ups are mods themselves like hilarious and co and crying dumb fish who can delete your TRUTHS away. They can really hide the truth that is worrying and should be tackled first.