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February 04, 2013, 06:12:42 PM
#15
You don't need to trade the actual gold to have a currency based on gold (or silver or any other hard asset).

The alternative would be certificates that represent gold, and I don't mean the fractional reserve type that lead to bank runs either. I mean you have a right to the actual metal.

Peter Schiff has already started something like this, though it is not available in the USA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goI8rAAJKtE#t=9m33s

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February 04, 2013, 02:45:40 PM
#14
Use gold as in private coinage, coins used in day to day trade, free exhange, free import and export.

I don't ever see this happening.  A return to the gold standard I can see but using physical gold as a medium of exchange isn't feasible on a a large scale.
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February 04, 2013, 10:33:28 AM
#13
Gold is a really bad form of money for everyday transactions, just better than any other commodity.  Representative forms of it are far superior.  Bitcoin crushes both gold and its representations as a form of money.
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February 04, 2013, 08:13:03 AM
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gold for daily to day trading?

i hope you don't mean to buy a pint of milk. because the size of a coin that has a value of a loaf of bread or a pint of milk is smaller then        .         <- that dot. for "private coinage" to use on daily bases.

I think there exists somewhere a plastic coin with a gold nugget cast in.
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February 04, 2013, 08:04:52 AM
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Which country would use gold

From another thread:

It took decades but finally the government of Kelantan (a state in Malaysia - They have a federal system like the USA) last year listened and introduced Gold and Silver currency which is legal tender in that state. They are even paying civil servants using it.

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Another Malaysian state (Perak) has now introduced its own Gold Dinar and Silver Dirham coins. Kelantan was first, in August of 2010.
- http://constitutionaltender.blogspot.com/2011/03/another-state-in-malaysia-introduces.html


Yep, apparently the Islamic laws requires Gold and Silver as a form of 'zakat' and legal currency. The states above have a majority of Islamic civilians, and thus the proliferation of gold and silver.
Have been to Malaysia last year and visited both Perak and Kelantan. Very nice. Did not see any gold coins, though.
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February 04, 2013, 06:19:56 AM
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gold for daily to day trading?

i hope you don't mean to buy a pint of milk. because the size of a coin that has a value of a loaf of bread or a pint of milk is smaller then        .         <- that dot. for "private coinage" to use on daily bases.
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February 04, 2013, 04:08:34 AM
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At least 2 countries ARE already using gold as currency de facto.

1. Zimbabwe. Google "zimbabwe gold dust" for proof.
2. Vietnam. See  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-04/guest-post-central-bank-snuffs-out-vietnam%E2%80%99s-thriving-gold-market

Interestingly, according to the zerohedge article Vietnam population holds 30 billion USD worth of gold. Should they replace this gold by Bitcoin it would make 1 BTC worth 3000$.
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February 04, 2013, 12:30:32 AM
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To use gold, first they will need to stack it!

Let's see who is doing that.

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia--turkey-ukraine-buy-gold-but-bullion-tiny-part-of-fx-reserves-2012-8
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February 04, 2013, 12:12:05 AM
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but,but gold is not money  Shocked Uncle Ben told Senator Ron Paul!
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February 03, 2013, 11:28:52 PM
#5
Which country would use gold

From another thread:

It took decades but finally the government of Kelantan (a state in Malaysia - They have a federal system like the USA) last year listened and introduced Gold and Silver currency which is legal tender in that state. They are even paying civil servants using it.

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Another Malaysian state (Perak) has now introduced its own Gold Dinar and Silver Dirham coins. Kelantan was first, in August of 2010.
- http://constitutionaltender.blogspot.com/2011/03/another-state-in-malaysia-introduces.html


Yep, apparently the Islamic laws requires Gold and Silver as a form of 'zakat' and legal currency. The states above have a majority of Islamic civilians, and thus the proliferation of gold and silver.
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February 03, 2013, 09:55:07 PM
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1 India, since gold is already widely distributed amongst the population.

Also interesting are these plans from the RBI (India's central bank):

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It wants banks to encourage products linked to accepting physical gold as deposits and investing public money in gold related products, and extend loans against gold as collateral.

Indians own about 20,000 tonnes of gold, or three times the holdings of the U.S. Federal Reserve, in jewellery, bars and coins.
- http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/02/01/gold-india-idINDEE91009U20130201

That equates to roughly $66,800,000,000. Divide that by 1B people and they'll have $66 each, and that's only if all the women in India surrender their gold jewelry. Highly unlikely one would, let alone half a billion plus of them.

I don't know how much the average woman in India has in gold, but my ex-wife owned about three pounds of the stuff in only the form of jewelry, and she was barely middle class. Here's an interesting read: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:FDcG1zORUdAJ:www.abwic.org/Proceedings/2007/ABW07-203.doc+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjW4Wy8_96ct4frbuduvpcjHP7x8mGvchZxXu5DZRJ11ZxpTWxFxHFqopjodUea0G_OVQAZgx4wURNTRPYe78rn5JnVKqUYdXtKlZ6CQCNpZfTDLAxxgSFcvZ13A5M3F7Ev_sEq&sig=AHIEtbTH-KMv76FzqsZZ-eA20_c7x9BqjQ

BTW, I'm talking about my real ex-wife, and not Maria. Which reminds me. Where is my sweetheart?
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February 03, 2013, 09:28:24 PM
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1 India, since gold is already widely distributed amongst the population.

Also interesting are these plans from the RBI (India's central bank):

Quote
It wants banks to encourage products linked to accepting physical gold as deposits and investing public money in gold related products, and extend loans against gold as collateral.

Indians own about 20,000 tonnes of gold, or three times the holdings of the U.S. Federal Reserve, in jewellery, bars and coins.
- http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/02/01/gold-india-idINDEE91009U20130201
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February 03, 2013, 08:56:56 PM
#2
Which country would use gold

From another thread:

It took decades but finally the government of Kelantan (a state in Malaysia - They have a federal system like the USA) last year listened and introduced Gold and Silver currency which is legal tender in that state. They are even paying civil servants using it.

Quote
Another Malaysian state (Perak) has now introduced its own Gold Dinar and Silver Dirham coins. Kelantan was first, in August of 2010.
- http://constitutionaltender.blogspot.com/2011/03/another-state-in-malaysia-introduces.html
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February 03, 2013, 08:11:48 PM
#1
Use gold as in private coinage, coins used in day to day trade, free exhange, free import and export.

Which country would use gold, if the dollar tanks?
Which country will use gold, when the dollar tanks?

My guesses:

1 India, since gold is already widely distributed amongst the population.

2 South africa, as they have gold mines and already have krugerrand as legal tender.

3 Australia, because they have lots of gold mines.

4 Argentina, because they have problems right now.
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