Topic: Which rank can we trust really? (Read 902 times)

Technically speaking, in the world of the internet, you have to stay very paranoid, and trust no one. Not saying that look everyone with the eyes of doubt, but when it comes to important matters like finance, never trust anyone and that includes everyone in the forum. You never know who's the person behind the screen of the account you are talking to or making a deal with! Forum ranks are in no way a proof that a person won't scam you if they want to, even in real life, big rich people have scammed banks and other financial institutions and stole money in form of not paying taxes.

Sure

stop bumping and posting on an old thread if you just reply with a generic post that has been mentioned a hundred times before

I'd want to trust Satoshi, but he pulled a Houdini

NO.

Trust does not relate to ranks. Trust belongs to the person who uses account, not the account rank.

If a trusted person uses an account in the forum, that account is always trusted, at whatever rank it has at anytime points.

It is trusted at brandnew rank.
It is trusted at Junior member rank.
It is trusted at member rank.
It is trusted along the way to Legendary rank.

If you falls into trust points, it will cause serious traps because trusts can be exchanged as I saw. I see them as faked trusted users and with that kind of 'faked trusted' users, they can change to untrusted at anytime points they want. At the end of their time in the forum, they end as untrusted, scam ones.

I don’t think that there is any relation between Trust and Rank. So a Member rank can be more trusted than a Hero Member. So we should not Justify It with rank. But its right that the more High rank the more chance to stay safe for deal.

I personally trust the forum member who have lots of previous smooth deal history. Again a person with whom I already made some deal previously. 

Only the most rank of all, corpses. Only they are guaranteed not to cheat you.

Trust but Verify.

Personally, I'd copy the rank names of the military, starting with Private, Corporal, Sergeant ... all the way to Captain, Major, Colonel, General. ... Satoshi would be the Commander in Chief or something, and the Staff would become Joint Chiefs ...

the ranking is indeed needed in every organization, to determine which are senior and beginner.

Let alone the bitcointalk Forum, in everyday life government has ranks ranging from Group A to D.
This is a sign that the A beginners and B, C and D can be said senior and Legendary.
For me there is nothing strange about the current rank, you just enjoy it between likes and dislikes, it depends on how to think.

If you think well about the current rankings, you don't need to worry about this problem, just give your best you will get what you dream of.

Please:


Before I locked this poll, I changed my vote - because for Member and Full Member only I voted. You can see, my opinion earlier.

But such members are remained mostly "orig" bitcointalk.org members at this time, I think...
They trying to save the original ideas: P2P community, no trusted third party, not to allow to scamming others and help if somebody was scammed, to change our Economy - to correct our wrong, centralized money system, ...
Such members trying to save and realize Satoshi's dreams. Please see the remark in the first block in Bitcoin-Blockchain.
But we should detect, the dreams wasn't implemented with bitcoin. Please see my opinion on reddit:

Bitcoin is only a paper-money, and it is able to use in our wrong, centralized money system! We use a buzzword for this here: "Fintec" already.

This topic used to be pinned in the Newbies section: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trust-no-one-33835

You shouldn't even trust a moderator without having a good reason, more than one ended up scamming other forum users.

The higher one's rank the bigger the opportunity to burn your account and disappear will be. I've seen many a hint that a decent number of established members don't have a pot to piss in.

No one should be under any illusion that if something landed in a long standing member's lap the temptation to exploit it will be strong and it may only not have happened because the chance hasn't arrived yet. There are enough old schoolers here who wound up screwing people.

We'll never know whether it was a long con or spontaneous but the higher up you go the more is dangled in front of you if you've placed yourself in the right circles.

There've been people I've grown up with who turned around and fucked me for piffling advantage after knowing them for decades. On the internet I'd times that possibility by a few million no matter how carefully crafted someone's rep is.

I can't see the poll's result but you should know that it doesn't prove anything.
You got the answer for your question in the previous replies but for some reason it seems you are not reading them or just ignoring them because it is not what you were expecting.

I tried to comprehend your post but couldn't, replying to the part I qouted above, firstly the poll was a waste of time since it's just a wrong idea to trust anyone just because of his/her rank. You can't never be sure who's behind the accounts on the forum as buying and selling of account occurs daily on the forum so accounts can chances hands at any moment and still stay under the rader for quite some time (days, months or even years) without getting notice. Therefore trusting just because of an account rank is the same as trusting a random online user just because they were the first to discover an opportunity before you. In this case (just because they joined the forum before you did).

Trusting because of posts quality (merit received, style of posting etc) is just stupidity too, also just basing your judgement on the trust the user has recieve is also not advisable since trust are quite easy to manipulate. In my opinion you should only trust those that have quite a excellent record in that area of your interest. If you're interested in a loan, only transact with those that have excellent record in that area, and when you need a third party for more safety, only employ the service of escrow that have proven without any doubt to be considered trustworthy. Still though nothing is gauranteed.

If I good understand - the bigger ranks, the more new merits are only tools here to scam others. They aren't show, how much your experience or your renown more... Or?
It let possible to scam mostly newbies or not members... All others should know - nobody should trust here anybody. Or?
As greater the rank (i.e.) as bigger tool it is to scam others. Or?
Hero's i.e. got (mostly bought already...) their Rank - because the opportunity in it to scam others... Or?
And many others do great jobs for you - and you will able to pay off they with merits

Why using we then such tools? We should avoid such tools or similar opportunities......
And, if we shouldn't trust others - we should negate the result of this poll. Or?

I locked this poll to save the result

I would trust no one here, when it comes to my money. That's why I have chosen Bitcoin to be my favourite form of money.
Some people might know where this quote comes from:

There are many misconceptions about whom to trust or not.
A User with a lot Posts / Merits / Rank can still scam you. A person who is good at writing may not be good when it comes to trust and he may try to gain advantage of the situation.
There is a trust ranking for everyone, that can give you a little insight of the trust able person. In all these situation we still need to trust someone and generally active DT members are trust able.

Ranks is irrelevant to trust thing,you can trust newbie or legendary if they have trade history here without any issues for that trust system will help you but also read the untrusted feedback which might tell the entire trade history of the person you trade and also you need to see the recent trade history if someone is higher rank because accounts were hacked and sold so you may not be dealing with the real owner now.

Don't trust on anyone before you DYOR and investigate their characteristic through their history in the forum.
- Rank: people can buy accounts to have high-ranked accounts.
- Merit: people can exchange or buy merits.
- Trust: people can buy trust or feedback (sometimes they will be caught if they exchange trust / feedback back and forth, but sometimes they do get trust legally from loan services).
Fundamentally, all of things are elements that help you to judge one's general trust/ reliablility.

Obviously, I wouldn’t trust anyone, not even a moderator. Your trust shouldn’t be based on number of merit earned over the months, btt account rank and not even the trust level.
BTT account like every other account on the internet can be hacked.
If for any reason you have to trust someone on btt forum, I’ll suggest you trust someone that you’ve grown on btt to trust. By that I mean, a user who you’ve studied it’s posts and comments over a long time and it’s pattern/standards remain consistent.

Best advise would be to learn the best Risk Management skills.