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https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
I see it mentioned 2 times in 2 comments made by 2 different persons. Both on 2005 December (the month the blog post was published)
So the term was surely already used but by a minority of people

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I know this is an old post, but if you are still interested in proof-of-work systems and their applicability as a digital currency, you might want to check out http://www.bitcoin.org It's a decentralized, P2P, cryptocurrency based on a proof of work algorithm

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Mssr. Szabo, the entire cryptocurrency 'establishment' owes you an immense debt of gratitude. I do agree with some of the comments (and had arrived at the same opinion independently) that we'd be better off with a POW function that does something more important than just solving a meaningless puzzle. I'm thinking of a domain-specific function such as predicting protein folding (critical in medicine and bio-tech) or for general purpose (e.g. spending cycles on a highly distributed problem, which has its own value). Of course, the two major constraints of POW must be maintained: 1/ confirmation of the solution must be trivial, and 2/ the computational cost for producing the solution must be controllable. Or maybe not - perhaps you get more in return for having provided more value in your POW.

Time stamps, no dates ...

2005 ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20060329122942/https://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2005/12/bit-gold.html = only 3 comments

2006 ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20091017171846/http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2005/12/bit-gold.html = much spam !

No snapshot in 2010 ...

Next is in 2011 ... (does include chaord's quote) ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20110526164344/http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2005/12/bit-gold.html = Inconclusive !
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I see it mentioned 2 times in 2 comments made by 2 different persons. Both on 2005 December (the month the blog post was published)
So the term was surely already used but by a minority of people

chaord:
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I know this is an old post, but if you are still interested in proof-of-work systems and their applicability as a digital currency, you might want to check out http://www.bitcoin.org It's a decentralized, P2P, cryptocurrency based on a proof of work algorithm

Tom E*c*k*
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Mssr. Szabo, the entire cryptocurrency 'establishment' owes you an immense debt of gratitude. I do agree with some of the comments (and had arrived at the same opinion independently) that we'd be better off with a POW function that does something more important than just solving a meaningless puzzle. I'm thinking of a domain-specific function such as predicting protein folding (critical in medicine and bio-tech) or for general purpose (e.g. spending cycles on a highly distributed problem, which has its own value). Of course, the two major constraints of POW must be maintained: 1/ confirmation of the solution must be trivial, and 2/ the computational cost for producing the solution must be controllable. Or maybe not - perhaps you get more in return for having provided more value in your POW.
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https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
No reference to "cryptocurrency" ...

HOW TO MAKE A MINT: THE CRYPTOGRAPHY OF ANONYMOUS ELECTRONIC CASH
- https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

Stefan Brands, Untraceable Off-Line Cash in Wallets with Observers, Advances in Cryptology CRYPTO '93, Springer-Verlag, pp. 302-318
- https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F3-540-48329-2_26.pdf

David Chaum, Achieving Electronic Privacy, Scientific American (August 1992), 96-101.
- https://www.chaum.com/publications/ScientificAmerican-AEP.pdf

David Chaum, Security without Identification: Transaction Systems to make Big Brother Obsolete, ACM 28 no. 10 (Oct 1985), 1030-1044.
- https://www.cs.ru.nl/~jhh/pub/secsem/chaum1985bigbrother.pdf

David Chaum, Amos Fiat, and Moni Naor, Untraceable Electronic Cash, Advances in Cryptology CRYPTO '88, Springer-Verlag, pp. 319-327.
- http://blog.koehntopp.de/uploads/chaum_fiat_naor_ecash.pdf

David Chaum and Torben Pedersen, Transferred Cash Grows in Size, Advances in Cryptology - EUROCRYPT '92, Springer-Verlag, pp. 390-407.
- https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F3-540-47555-9_32.pdf

David Chaum and Torben Pedersen, Wallet Databases with Observers, Advances in Cryptology CRYPTO '92, Springer-Verlag, pp. 89-105.
- https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F3-540-48071-4_7.pdf

Tony Eng and Tatsuaki Okamoto, Single-Term Divisible Electronic Coins, Advances in Cryptology EUROCRYPT '94, Springer-Verlag, pp. 311-323.
- https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/BFb0053446 - No reference in Abstract - Undetermined.

Niels Ferguson, Extensions of Single-term Coins, Advances in Cryptology - CRYPTO '93, Springer-Verlag, pp. 292-301.
- https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/3-540-48329-2_25 - No reference in Abstract - Undetermined.

Niels Ferguson, Single Term Off-Line Coins, Advances in Cryptology - EUROCRYPT '93, Springer-Verlag, pp. 318-328.
- https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/3-540-48285-7_28 - No reference in Abstract - Undetermined.

Alfred J. Menezes, Elliptic Curve Public Key Cryptosystems, Kluwer Academic Publishers, Boston, 1993.
- http://www.cs.nthu.edu.tw/~cchen/CS4351/jurisic.pdf

Tatsuaki Okamoto, An Efficient Divisible Electronic Cash Scheme, Advances in Cryptology - CRYPTO '95, Springer-Verlag, pp. 438-451.
- https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F3-540-44750-4_35.pdf

Tatsuaki Okamoto and Kazuo Ohta, Universal Electronic Cash, Advances in Cryptology - CRYPTO '91, Springer-Verlag, pp. 324-337.
- ?? - Undetermined.

Sebastiaan von Solms and David Naccache, On Blind Signatures and Perfect Crimes, Computers & Security 11 (1992), 581-583.
- https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/On-blind-signatures-and-perfect-crimes-Solms-Naccache/67bb82e6981239270d644e60e8f868b4f0752126 - No reference in Abstract - Undetermined.

Markus Stadler, Jean-Marc Piveteau, and Jan Camenisch, Fair Blind Signatures, Advances in Cryptology - EUROCRYPT '95, Springer-Verlag, pp. 209-219.
- https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/3-540-49264-X_17 - No reference in Abstract - Undetermined.

Further ...

Unenumerated: Bit gold
- https://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2005/12/bit-gold.html - Note only reference in later comments ??

cryptocurrency - Google Trends
- https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cryptocurrency

hashcash.org - 2009
- https://web.archive.org/web/20090707030656/http://www.hashcash.org/docs/hashcash.txt

Zooko's Hack Log
- https://web.archive.org/web/20090426214618/http://testgrid.allmydata.org:3567/uri/URI:DIR2-RO:j74uhg25nwdpjpacl6rkat2yhm:kav7ijeft5h7r7rxdp5bgtlt3viv32yabqajkrdykozia5544jqa/wiki.html#%5B%5BDecentralized%20Money%5D%5D

Bitcoin on sourceforge.net

2009

- https://web.archive.org/web/20091129231620/http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/

April 2010

- https://web.archive.org/web/20100414195759/http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/

bitcoin.org

2009 ... nope ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20090131115053/http://bitcoin.org/
- https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/
- https://web.archive.org/web/20090823095446/http://www.bitcoin.org/

Jan 2010 ...

"Bitcoin P2P Cryptocurrency" <<<<< does pre-date my OP post !!!

- https://web.archive.org/web/20100106082749/http://www.bitcoin.org/

??
legendary
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https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
This is the thing Bitcoin wasn't called "cryptocurrency" until it was.

Recently I noticed that a wiki page for cryptocurrency did not actually exist. I made a post on bitcointalk that identified this fact and that prior references were only for ecash, b-money, Digicash, eCache, bit gold, digital cash, e-currency, cryptographic electronic money, digital gold money etc., See:

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_currency

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_gold_currency

The earliest citations on the Cryptocurrency wiki do not seem to make any reference to "cryptocurrency" ... currently including ...

- http://blog.koehntopp.de/uploads/chaum_fiat_naor_ecash.pdf - Untraceable Electronic Cash - 2011 ?

- http://www.weidai.com/bmoney.txt - bmoney - 2011 ?

...

The first Bitcoin Exchange (manual service + 1st exchange rates) was New Liberty Standard (originally at wetpaint) ...

- http://newlibertystandard.wikifoundry.com/
- http://newlibertystandard.wikifoundry.com/page/Exchange+Rate

Makes no reference to cryptocurrency either.

The "complete" Bitcoin history book websites do not list my own (manual exchange service) despite presence on bitcointalk, which I set-up after having conversations with NewLibertyStandard. It ran on a free web host and domain service - which did not matter as it only functioned as a point of contact for manual exchanges. The service was established before BitcoinMarket .com .

BitcoinFX
- https://web.archive.org/web/20100429153403/http://www.bitcoinfx.cz.cc/
N.B. I no longer control or have access to any BitcoinFX @ email addresses !

Unfortunately, my website did not mention "Cryptocurrency" either. Only my forum posts.

I closed the service down, honouring all transfers and/or reimbursement's etc., and went back to trading retail forex until 2013. The closure of Liberty Reserve - cost me a lot of money, money I would of moved back into Bitcoin. That was the point of myself spending those interim years trading retail forex. I mostly traded XAG/USD and XAU/USD with good profits - having balances effectively 'confiscated'. Due to other factors and unforeseen personal circumstances, I've been getting back on my feet, so to speak, ever since. I will add that I never used Bitcoin or LR for anything 'illegal' - forex brokers used to accept LR and I also received some advertising revenues etc.,

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc.,
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/verifying-my-old-zero-balance-wallet-address-for-blockchain-research-etc-4630066
Note: Same Signed Bitcoin address.

Original Bitcoin P2P Banners were 'hosted' on my account ... (Still there!) lol.
Re: Make your "we accept Bitcoin" logo
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.559

Re: Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum!
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.188

...

I'm unsure as to if I also saw the "cryptocurrency" term elsewhere though, before I utilized it myself in my post. Still searching. I did come up with a lot of random things at the time, I know I certainly amused Satoshi with my initial enthusiasm, actions and ramblings. Grin
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Am pretty sure it was Satoshi himself. There's a passage in Digital Gold by Nathaniel Popper where it's proposed in an exchange with that Finnish fella who helped him out with bitcoin.org at the start. I'll dig around.

Edit - It was an unknown stranger.


'While satoshi never discussed anything person in these emails, he would banter with Martti about little things.

In one email Satoshi pointed to a recent exchange on the Bitcoin email list in which a user referred to Bitcoin as a "cryptocurrency" referring to the cryptographic functions that made it run.

"Maybe it's a word we should use when describing Bitcoin. Do you like it?" Satoshi asked.

"It sounds good," Martti replied. "A peer to peer cryptocurrency could be the slogan."  '
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Pretty legitimate question to be honest. The first things that come to mind are David Chaum's works on 'electronic cash,' Wei Dai's 'b-money' and Nick Szabo's 'bit gold,' all of which are somewhat related to the cryptocurrency that we know of today. The first time I read something about cryptocurrencies is in 2015 in a Coindesk article relating to Ethereum and the rise of other altcoins, and it's strange since I started this journey on 2013 December and registered in this forum on 1 April 2014.
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I doubt that since Bitcoin isn't the first cryptocurrency, it has surely be mentioned before. Perhaps it was written 'crypto currency' or
'crypto-currency' but pretty sure it already does before. I admit I tried to search quickly with google anything before Feb 2008 but didn't find. Same with Archive.org
But then I remembered a document from NSA. References listed below are surely worth to read since it has a high chance to get the word in.

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1. Stefan Brands, Untraceable Off-Line Cash in Wallets with Observers, Advances in Cryptology CRYPTO '93, Springer-Verlag, pp. 302-318.
2. David Chaum, Achieving Electronic Privacy, Scientific American (August 1992), 96-101.
3. David Chaum, Security without Identification: Transaction Systems to make Big Brother Obsolete, ACM 28 no. 10 (Oct 1985), 1030-1044.
4. David Chaum, Amos Fiat, and Moni Naor, Untraceable Electronic Cash, Advances in Cryptology CRYPTO '88, Springer-Verlag, pp. 319-327.
5. David Chaum and Torben Pedersen, Transferred Cash Grows in Size, Advances in Cryptology - EUROCRYPT '92, Springer-Verlag, pp. 390-407.
6. David Chaum and Torben Pedersen, Wallet Databases with Observers, Advances in Cryptology CRYPTO '92, Springer-Verlag, pp. 89-105.
7. Tony Eng and Tatsuaki Okamoto, Single-Term Divisible Electronic Coins, Advances in Cryptology EUROCRYPT '94, Springer-Verlag, pp. 311-33.
8. Niels Ferguson, Extensions of Single-term Coins, Advances in Cryptology - CRYPTO '93, Springer-Verlag, pp. 292-301.
9. Niels Ferguson, Single Term Off-Line Coins, Advances in Cryptology - EUROCRYPT '93, Springer-Verlag, pp. 318-328.
10. Alfred J. Menezes, Elliptic Curve Public Key Cryptosystems, Kluwer Academic Publishers, Boston, 1993.
11. Tatsuaki Okamoto, An Efficient Divisible Electronic Cash Scheme, Advances in Cryptology - CRYPTO '95, Springer-Verlag, pp. 438-451.
12. Tatsuaki Okamoto and Kazuo Ohta, Universal Electronic Cash, Advances in Cryptology - CRYPTO '91, Springer-Verlag, pp. 324-337.
13. Sebastiaan von Solms and David Naccache, On Blind Signatures and Perfect Crimes, Computers & Security 11 (1992), 581-583.
14. Markus Stadler, Jean-Marc Piveteau, and Jan Camenisch, Fair Blind Signatures, Advances in Cryptology - EUROCRYPT '95, Springer-Verlag, pp. 209-219.
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https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
So, a new bitcointalk forum account sent me a PM today ...

they claimed to be researcher from a University searching this forum for the first occurrence of the word "cryptocurrency" ...

and apparently that was from myself, in this post ...

New Bitcoin Users - Read This ! (Bitcoin Preservation)
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-bitcoin-users-read-this-bitcoin-preservation-86

(I should really pay attention to myself more!)

Does an earlier iteration exist anywhere else ? I honestly don't know.

...

Anyhow, this is also relevant / topical as it seems CSW actually backdated an 'old' blog post of his to included the word "cryptocurrency" ...

- https://coinnounce.com/craig-wright-exposed-by-wikileaks/

- https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1095309111263223808



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