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hero member
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December 17, 2016, 03:05:26 AM
Well users control bitcoins right? That's why some are saying that bitcoin is free!

We are the one who contribute to make bitcoin to be known and I guess control is not the right term for us
but we are the one who makes the bitcoin moves to high or low value because it depends on the demand of it.
legendary
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December 17, 2016, 02:21:16 AM
Bitcoin is decentralized, so basically no one control Bitcoin, but the network.
do a search on google, and you will find more information



Google is your friend, friend.
This thread should not be created, the answer is very easy and the question is very simple. One click in google then problem solve. Maybe next time a thread that will be created is something worth discussing for.

Sure, but there's not that much to say about bitcoin so we like to rehash the same shit over and over again for our signature campaigns.  If we googled everything we'd never make any money.
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December 16, 2016, 10:28:54 PM
Bitcoin is decentralized, so basically no one control Bitcoin, but the network.
do a search on google, and you will find more information



Google is your friend, friend.
This thread should not be created, the answer is very easy and the question is very simple. One click in google then problem solve. Maybe next time a thread that will be created is something worth discussing for.
newbie
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December 16, 2016, 03:50:16 PM
Bitcoin is decentralized, so basically no one control Bitcoin, but the network.
do a search on google, and you will find more information



Google is your friend, friend.
legendary
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December 16, 2016, 03:27:24 PM
If the whales are early adopters, they might not care for the price of Bitcoin as much as we do. The very fact that they were early adopters and yet didn't cash out could explain why they are still in the game. They are not waiting for the price to hit some certain level, they are obviously waiting when Bitcoin becomes a new global money and they themselves turn into a new wealthy elite.
I suppose I am an early adopter. I have been at it since 2010. Like many of the others I know, we are not interested in the price. I don't care about wealth, just economic freedom. That's what this is about for me and I have no intention of ever "cashing out". I have never sold a bitcoin because bitcoin is the cash I want. If I find myself sitting on a 100 million USD in BTC, I'll donate it somewhere.

So it looks like that I'm right about you, the early adopter guys. You are just waiting patiently when Bitcoin becomes the major money, and then you will be both liked and envied or even hated by smaller people like us, who were not that lucky to jump on the Bitcoin bandwagon in time. But if you don't transact what's the purpose of economic freedom to you then?

Not every early adopter believes that way. Some read the 2011 gawker article about this new money used to buy drugs online. It was instantly visible that this new "dark web" money was going to skyrocket in popularity and price. For me, it was like reading about a young Apple Corp or Microsoft and seeing dollar signs. It was only ever about profit for me. The first thing I did when visiting this forum is read the mining section, learn how to mine and build a mini gpu farm. I knew I wanted to get my hands on as many Bitcoin as I could as fast as I could.

Methinks, we shouldn't count you as an early adopter. Those who used GPU mining were already at an advanced stage of Bitcoin development and adoption. It seems that only the ancient ones who mined first bitcoins on their desktop processors can be rightfully considered as true early adopters. You yourself say that you came into Bitcoin when it already got some notoriety for being used in dark markets. 2011 is nowhere near early, only 2010 makes it somewhat.

That's possible I guess. You've narrowed your band of people down to maybe a thousand 2010 users, of which possibly a couple dozen still visit this forum. I guess that would also depend on what your definition of whale is too.

Yes, you hit it right where it hurts. In my view, we can count as whales, or super-whales, the first thousand or hundred top Bitcoin holders. We can do basically the same with regard to whales among early adopters. Because their number will be much lower than the number of simple whales for obvious reasons, we should count only the first hundred of them.

Satoshi is gone and not spending any of his. So you can rule him out. Many of the early miners wasted their coins buying shit like 20,000 coin pizzas, Allinvane had his stolen, tons of the early miners lost them at MtGox and so on.

I think there's way, way less than 100 early adopters that still have 20,000 coins or more.

Your using "early adopter" interchangeably with "whale" and those aren't the same. The Winklevoss twins have mountains of Bitcoin but you wouldn't consider them early adopters. They could sell half of their stash and crash the price to a penny. I've been mining and buying for six years and even I could probably move the price $100 alone when I sell all.
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December 16, 2016, 02:26:41 PM
Bitcoins are decentralized ,they are controlled by no one.
If bitcoins being controlled by some one ,he would be the most targetted person ever .

i agree with this but as we can see with the price, i think the big player who have large amount of bitcoin wants to trying to control bitcoin and we can see the truth of this by the price in the market that is not going to high or to low. the big player of bitcoin don't want bitcoin to get down and only want to make bitcoin price is up, but not all the big player want to make this, the other player want to make bitcoin price is down and then they can buy many bitcoin and then they can sold it when the price is high.
If there is a place or country that planning to control bitcoin it is impossible because bitcoin is decentralize and china you are talking about and i think it is already been discuss here that they can not control it even china has a largest mining farm.
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December 16, 2016, 02:14:30 PM
Bitcoins are decentralized ,they are controlled by no one.
If bitcoins being controlled by some one ,he would be the most targetted person ever .

i agree with this but as we can see with the price, i think the big player who have large amount of bitcoin wants to trying to control bitcoin and we can see the truth of this by the price in the market that is not going to high or to low. the big player of bitcoin don't want bitcoin to get down and only want to make bitcoin price is up, but not all the big player want to make this, the other player want to make bitcoin price is down and then they can buy many bitcoin and then they can sold it when the price is high.
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December 16, 2016, 11:08:34 AM
Who in the world controls the bitcoin? I don't understand where it appeared and how it began to be one of the official currencies?
Who controls the course of Bitcoin?

No one control bitcoin. And no one will can. Bitcoin is not official currency but popular currency. That mean that is value exist only because the people who hold it have decided that have value for them and have found way to make true this their faith.

It is not particularly different with any other currency out there

If the population of some country abandoned their local currency (see Zimbabwe), it would quickly lose all features that made it into currency. The government could force the population to use the currency they issue by making people pay taxes in it and by paying salaries in the public sector with it, but that's pretty much all they can do. In many countries with hyperinflation, people used local currency only for such purposes (i.e. paying taxes and fees), while using, say, the US dollar for anything other than that, especially for pricey things
legendary
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December 16, 2016, 10:52:19 AM
I don't think someone controlling the Bitcoins maybe the exchange/price can be controlled by the Chinese who are the majority of miners of Bitcoin but I think people are smart to know how to join the wave of it when the price goes low or high. If however, some group will control bitcoin we will know it for sure.
I agree,BTC isn't controlled by anyone,stop thinking that there is someone actually controlling it,yes,China has a lot of miners who are holders of BTC as well but that doesn't mean that they are in control because the demand is really high and BTC is always in circulation,it's hard to control BTC unless you have a really big share of it which is in the hands of a couple of people or organizations.That's when the control can be made but that's not the case so relax.
legendary
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December 16, 2016, 09:17:58 AM
Who in the world controls the bitcoin? I don't understand where it appeared and how it began to be one of the official currencies?
Who controls the course of Bitcoin?

No one control bitcoin. And no one will can. Bitcoin is not official currency but popular currency. That mean that is value exist only because the people who hold it have decided that have value for them and have found way to make true this their faith.
hero member
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December 16, 2016, 09:03:16 AM
i dont think that somebody can control bitcoin. because the fluctuation rate on bitcoin is unstable at any time
except the rate of bitcoin that people who have lot of bitcoin can control it
sr. member
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December 16, 2016, 08:54:07 AM
I don't think someone controlling the Bitcoins maybe the exchange/price can be controlled by the Chinese who are the majority of miners of Bitcoin but I think people are smart to know how to join the wave of it when the price goes low or high. If however, some group will control bitcoin we will know it for sure.
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December 16, 2016, 08:51:06 AM
Bitcoins are decentralized ,they are controlled by no one.
If bitcoins being controlled by some one ,he would be the most targetted person ever .
What makes it popular is the decentralization, if bitcoin will be controlled by anyone then there's no big difference with the bank. Manipulation might happen and it will not give us the real situation of the market which will make our investment at risk.

   Lets hope it will stay decentralized, we all know there is many parties interested in blockchaine technology. Can bitcoin be controled by one person I dont know, behind every corporation there is team of experts, and they are dangerous cause they have a lot of money to invest. This huge corporations are specialist in divide and rule and I hope that will not happen to bitcoin, people should unite and work together on this.
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December 16, 2016, 08:45:22 AM
If the whales are early adopters, they might not care for the price of Bitcoin as much as we do. The very fact that they were early adopters and yet didn't cash out could explain why they are still in the game. They are not waiting for the price to hit some certain level, they are obviously waiting when Bitcoin becomes a new global money and they themselves turn into a new wealthy elite.
I suppose I am an early adopter. I have been at it since 2010. Like many of the others I know, we are not interested in the price. I don't care about wealth, just economic freedom. That's what this is about for me and I have no intention of ever "cashing out". I have never sold a bitcoin because bitcoin is the cash I want. If I find myself sitting on a 100 million USD in BTC, I'll donate it somewhere.

So it looks like that I'm right about you, the early adopter guys. You are just waiting patiently when Bitcoin becomes the major money, and then you will be both liked and envied or even hated by smaller people like us, who were not that lucky to jump on the Bitcoin bandwagon in time. But if you don't transact what's the purpose of economic freedom to you then?

Not every early adopter believes that way. Some read the 2011 gawker article about this new money used to buy drugs online. It was instantly visible that this new "dark web" money was going to skyrocket in popularity and price. For me, it was like reading about a young Apple Corp or Microsoft and seeing dollar signs. It was only ever about profit for me. The first thing I did when visiting this forum is read the mining section, learn how to mine and build a mini gpu farm. I knew I wanted to get my hands on as many Bitcoin as I could as fast as I could.

Methinks, we shouldn't count you as an early adopter. Those who used GPU mining were already at an advanced stage of Bitcoin development and adoption. It seems that only the ancient ones who mined first bitcoins on their desktop processors can be rightfully considered as true early adopters. You yourself say that you came into Bitcoin when it already got some notoriety for being used in dark markets. 2011 is nowhere near early, only 2010 makes it somewhat.

That's possible I guess. You've narrowed your band of people down to maybe a thousand 2010 users, of which possibly a couple dozen still visit this forum. I guess that would also depend on what your definition of whale is too.

Yes, you hit it right where it hurts. In my view, we can count as whales, or super-whales, the first thousand or hundred top Bitcoin holders. We can do basically the same with regard to whales among early adopters. Because their number will be much lower than the number of simple whales for obvious reasons, we should count only the first hundred of them.
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December 15, 2016, 11:09:03 PM
Bitcoins are decentralized ,they are controlled by no one.
If bitcoins being controlled by some one ,he would be the most targetted person ever .
What makes it popular is the decentralization, if bitcoin will be controlled by anyone then there's no big difference with the bank. Manipulation might happen and it will not give us the real situation of the market which will make our investment at risk.
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December 15, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
Bitcoins are decentralized ,they are controlled by no one.
If bitcoins being controlled by some one ,he would be the most targetted person ever .
I agree with you friend, even satoshi can not control bitcoin. It was controlled by each bitcoin user. But the hoarder still can control bitcoin price in the market. Bitcoin spreading and circulation is not so good right now becouse most of bitcoin users are just hold it until the price rise. People who have big bitcoin capital can make factor to control bitcoin price. When the hoarder buy or sell in big amount it can influence bitcoin price.
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December 15, 2016, 10:33:32 PM
Bitcoins are decentralized ,they are controlled by no one.
If bitcoins being controlled by some one ,he would be the most targetted person ever .
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December 15, 2016, 08:50:30 PM
The miners. When a miner finds a block, they control which transactions are accepted and which transactions are rejected. Miners have the ability to accept or reject the previous block as well to reverse fraudulent transactions (double spends).

Sure the miners has a big influence into the transactions since we need them to get our confirmations, but they will need us as well since we increase their rewards for each block they mine, in the general is a mutual need for both parts, if a mine dont make his work other will do, i doubt someone will refuse the fees for the transactions. Early adopters have a big influence over bitcoin, but not able to control bitcoin, there are several wales and bitcoin miners that has a huge power over bitcoin.
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December 15, 2016, 04:22:37 PM
The miners. When a miner finds a block, they control which transactions are accepted and which transactions are rejected. Miners have the ability to accept or reject the previous block as well to reverse fraudulent transactions (double spends).
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December 15, 2016, 04:07:42 PM
If the whales are early adopters, they might not care for the price of Bitcoin as much as we do. The very fact that they were early adopters and yet didn't cash out could explain why they are still in the game. They are not waiting for the price to hit some certain level, they are obviously waiting when Bitcoin becomes a new global money and they themselves turn into a new wealthy elite.
I suppose I am an early adopter. I have been at it since 2010. Like many of the others I know, we are not interested in the price. I don't care about wealth, just economic freedom. That's what this is about for me and I have no intention of ever "cashing out". I have never sold a bitcoin because bitcoin is the cash I want. If I find myself sitting on a 100 million USD in BTC, I'll donate it somewhere.

So it looks like that I'm right about you, the early adopter guys. You are just waiting patiently when Bitcoin becomes the major money, and then you will be both liked and envied or even hated by smaller people like us, who were not that lucky to jump on the Bitcoin bandwagon in time. But if you don't transact what's the purpose of economic freedom to you then?

Not every early adopter believes that way. Some read the 2011 gawker article about this new money used to buy drugs online. It was instantly visible that this new "dark web" money was going to skyrocket in popularity and price. For me, it was like reading about a young Apple Corp or Microsoft and seeing dollar signs. It was only ever about profit for me. The first thing I did when visiting this forum is read the mining section, learn how to mine and build a mini gpu farm. I knew I wanted to get my hands on as many Bitcoin as I could as fast as I could.

Methinks, we shouldn't count you as an early adopter. Those who used GPU mining were already at an advanced stage of Bitcoin development and adoption. It seems that only the ancient ones who mined first bitcoins on their desktop processors can be rightfully considered as true early adopters. You yourself say that you came into Bitcoin when it already got some notoriety for being used in dark markets. 2011 is nowhere near early, only 2010 makes it somewhat.

That's possible I guess. You've narrowed your band of people down to maybe a thousand 2010 users, of which possibly a couple dozen still visit this forum. I guess that would also depend on what your definition of whale is too.
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