Topic: Who is fooling around with btc Price? - page 2. (Read 567 times)

yes I agree with you since the beginning of bitcoin appears the price of bitcoin has fluctuated. the rise and fall of bitcoin prices is common. so we do not need to worry about continuing to try to collect bitcoin so that in the future we can obtain greater profits. I am optimistic that in the future bitcoin prices will be even more expensive. don't keep thinking about the current decline in bitcoin because it's useless.

did you know that the real whales do holiday everyday lol

christmas just the little part of it but people continue correlating the big money are on hold because of the holiday break , i will say it is just a coincidence. need a proof? just look at the chart , the price on each desember of 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2018 always in different situation.

sometimes bullish , sometimes bearish. sometimes fall and sometimes it goes wild up.
which means there is nothing to do with the holiday break, i mean okay there is a little impact because of the holiday spending, but i won't say it has a huge impact caused, it was just usual move.

If you think the price is manipulated, please provide the real time fact that it was manipulated.
Investors do not need prices to go up to hundreds of percent for them to get profits, they only need 3-5% per transaction to be able to reap profits. Because the capital they use is very large.
Small trader players always hope that there is a fantastic increase so that every transaction they place can get a big profit, but when prices only move up to a maximum of 5% they say that it's price manipulation.
Bro, be realistic about price patterns formed in the market. What happens there is an agreement between the buyer and seller, the equilibrium price is formed. Prices will not follow your expectations.

Sounds relevant answer of yours, correct, there's someone trying to manipulate the market and that is the reason why bitcoin was struggling to pump up and maintain the price of $7k range. I highly doubt that this whale probably disappears soon once they were tired of manipulating the market. All we can do is patiently hold at this moment while waiting for the next halving reward of bitcoin probably there is a high chance that price will go up.

The answer is whales.

If I had 10 million dollars I'd also try to make money by squeezing leveraged traders. It's very hard to do on forex and other markets with high volume and liquidity but extremely easy to do on altcoins and just a bit harder on Bitcoin.

It's going to end at some point either when markets become regulated or when we have another rally with high volume. Then all those influencers will jump on the money train and pump and dumping will end for a while.

I think when you have enough money to be a whale it must be very easy to fool with the prices. I have never been a whale so I don't know what goes in their minds but if I had billions of dollars to mock around (even couple hundred) and they were all liquid or in crypto world, I would have done something similar as well.

I would start with selling all my bitcoins to usdt in plenty of markets to drop the price first, when the price went down I would just stay around to see if it goes back up, if it tried to go back up I would sell more to keep it low, when people realize it is not going back up and they start to sell I would start to buy and keep the price stagnant, wouldn't allow to go up but would buy when people sell and get myself a lot more bitcoins than I started out with.

I expect that the CME futures market is a key player for price setting.

I believe that the cryptocurrency market is manipulated by people who hold a lot of bitcoins and a lot of money that we often call them sharks.
Sharks always use the information to hit the psychology of small investors. If they want prices to go up, they will find a way to produce good news and vice versa if they want prices to go down, they will find ways to create bad news.

Maybe if it was like that I'd disagree with you because pump on one day and dump on the next seems like a legit price action. In Bitcoin we had 7,2k USD that pumped by 200 USD in 3 hours and went back to 7,2 3 hours later. This is the same money going in and out.

I agree with others that it's a sign of low liquidity and allows for small amounts like 200 BTC to move the price by $100 up or down depending on whether it's bought or sold.
Whales or pump groups are taking advantage of this and there's nothing we can do besides staying away and not trading.

It's as usual the whales they have started generating short term pump and then dump in order to gain profit gradually rather than their traditional method of massive cash out. This time I doubt it's the traders who might have formed a group and manipulate the price since they had good chunk of bitcoin. We need to be on our toes if we need profit as promised bull run is still far away.

That's the mindset of a noob in any field. If you can't beat the game, it cheated on you. The most used term amongst noobs in the last 6 months is 'whale manipulation'.

Price drops 5%; whales are pushing the price down to buy lower.
Price drops another 10%; whales are still hungry for more.
Price pumps 10%; bull run is around the corner boys, let's buy more! (no mention of whales doing anything)
Price then dumps 15%; whales don't want the price to go up.

You get the point. It's kinda hilarious reading through all those claims and gibberish conversations, but it's sad at the same time. These people shouldn't be here speculating.

Even us don't know what's happening or that there is manipulating. we can not predict the price but those big investors can. they are the one's who manipulated our minds not the price, their simple predictions or negative and positive news can affect the price that's why we think they manipulated it but it not. we should control our emotions in this news and their predictions, so learn more about market move and don't fall for hype and manipulating.

this is a normal price fluctuation, imagine if didn't have this price fluctuation? who would do daytrade?


I don't know which news channels you read, but the news channels I read just say that maybe we can see the bull race in the future.


I have no idea if someone is manipulating the price or not... this is a subject that has companies that focus on it, I saw one day a report of a certain company about it


Read This:

What Is The Meaning Of Crypto Bull Run ? When Is The Next Bull Run ?

It's called volatility and you need to deal with it since it really happen anytime since if more people selling the more dump coming but if you can see buys you can see a pump and it's pretty normal so there's nothing to worry about.

 There's nothing to panic and don't believe easily that every movement is been manipulated it's just how the market works.

@Polo7 it seems to me that you’re new to crypto’s because no experienced investor would consider a $500 hike to be the start of a bull run, hence I would advise you to read about the last bull run and learn more about bitcoins and it’s volatile nature. Though you were wrong about this hike being a bull run you were partially right too, because price manipulation’s is prevailent in the crypto market and it’s done by whales.

You can read more information here: https://www.technologyreview.com/f/614673/one-bitcoin-whale-may-have-fueled-the-currencys-price-spike-in-2017/

https://www.kitco.com/commentaries/2019-05-06/Ten-Mysterious-Crypto-Whales-Influence-Bitcoin-Prices.html

because there are still many fools who still believe and follow a trend of the news, many traders focus their chart analysis on news that is not necessarily true, futures markets and others, they are off track from the actual direction of the game, I am a person who doesn't care about bitcoin will go up high or down and don't even care about big people who have names about bitcoin price analysis going forward even a gavin can wrongly say craig is satoshi, but I still believe bitcoin prices will make people surprised to see it in the next 2 years

I hope the speculation is not real, but on the left side everyone seems to turn a blind eye about it even for the sake of waiting for the cheap bitcoin price must make analysis and news manipulation make something that makes bitcoin look bad and have to fall to touch $ 3000 besides that on the right side there are still some people who still believe history will repeat itself, so this is where we are separated in the analysis, but what unites and determines the end is halving 2020 time soon when there are many people who feel missed the train there are also those who do not feel missed the train, so time will determine the outcome

I have said several times about this in this forum, enjoy your vacation time at the end of the year, bitcoin prices will continue to stabilize until the beginning of the year there might be a bit of a shock at the start, no need to trade let the whale play with its clear toys it's not you

I don't think there is a bitcoin price manipulation like that, just a little difference is not possible in the manipulation, we already know that the current market is still unstable and is still surging so that this is just a real market movement.
See now the market is green but the increase is only a few percent so this is purely traders who sell for holidays and buy to approach halving.

Bitcoin is undergoing ranging mode more or less like the price is consolidating there isn't a big deal deal about that the price movement is in equilibrium once demand supercedes supply a trending bullish movement would be established, I don't think there is whales manipulations you are looking at the with a short term perspectives not watching it with a long term perspectives.

Here is a good tip for you,

Whether you are trading cryptos, stocks, futures, commodities or what not. Don't trade the days between Christmas and New Years. Why? Because there is very little liquidity. Most of the large whales are on vacation because who wants to sit all day trading during the holidays and markets get erratic.

This is what we are seeing right now. Basically today earlier we got a sweep of the lows and yesterday we got a sweep of the highs, its a very tight ranging market and it will chop you up if you try and trade it. Wait until like January 5th to trade.

no one knows for sure who is playing with the price of bitcoin. what is clear is that we know that there is a whale that can manipulate the price of bitcoin. and I think right now we are still in the bear market so it's natural that the price of bitcoin goes up a little and then goes down more. and no one knows when this bear market will end. but I'm still optimistic that bitcoin can pump again when we enter the bull market. investing in bitcoin does require extra patience because sometimes the bear market lasts a long time.