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Yea has to be a bitcoin eater, that would be a pretty funny address to have though.

I wonder if there are similar address like that but are not bitcoin eaters :-P
legendary
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I found this in the 279 page.



Another address which maybe used in future.

https://blockchain.info/address/11111111111111111111BZbvjr
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I assumed that someone generated it, ended up with a private key and then declared it destroyed.

You start by generating the private key.

Then you calculate the public bitcoin address from that private key.

The results of that calculation are completely unpredictable, so for any given private key the resulting address will be one of 2160 possible bitcoin addresses, and which address it will be is completely unknown until you calculate it.

So, if you start by wanting a specific address, all you can do is keep trying different private keys and see if the resulting bitcoin addresses match the address that you want.  Since each private key has a 1 in 2160 chance of being the address that you want, you have a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000684% chance of finding the private key for that specific address each time you try.

You have a better chance of winning a major national lottery (such as the PowerBall in the U.S.) multiple times in a row than you do of starting with a specific desired bitcoin address and stumbling on the correct private key in your lifetime.



It was a nice explanation by you , i really appreciate your efforts in this community.
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Perhaps it's service that is doing something similar to what Keybase.io does, but with no beneficiary of the sent BTC

See:
https://keybase.io/docs/server_security/merkle_root_in_bitcoin_blockchain
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Perhaps if you equated it to "being able to travel to Pluto and back for your annual holiday in the next 50 years" then maybe they might realise that *there is zero chance* (but then again they might not as perhaps quite a lot of people actually believe that flying on a spaceship to Pluto and back will be feasible on an average salary in 2066).

Which is your speculation, as are the ones making up the probability for the Pluto-Spaceship situation
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I agree. I don't think the private key was/is/will ever be generated. The chance is basically 0.

Personally I think you should just say - there is no chance (i.e. remove the basically).

Unfortunately humans are not good at understanding huge numbers - so they still think there is some chance (like winning at a lottery).

Perhaps if you equated it to "being able to travel to Pluto and back for your annual holiday in the next 50 years" then maybe they might realise that *there is zero chance* (but then again they might not as perhaps quite a lot of people actually believe that flying on a spaceship to Pluto and back will be feasible on an average salary in 2066).
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I assumed that someone generated it, ended up with a private key and then declared it destroyed.

You start by generating the private key.

Then you calculate the public bitcoin address from that private key.

The results of that calculation are completely unpredictable, so for any given private key the resulting address will be one of 2160 possible bitcoin addresses, and which address it will be is completely unknown until you calculate it.

So, if you start by wanting a specific address, all you can do is keep trying different private keys and see if the resulting bitcoin addresses match the address that you want.  Since each private key has a 1 in 2160 chance of being the address that you want, you have a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000684% chance of finding the private key for that specific address each time you try.

You have a better chance of winning a major national lottery (such as the PowerBall in the U.S.) multiple times in a row than you do of starting with a specific desired bitcoin address and stumbling on the correct private key in your lifetime.



I agree. I don't think the private key was/is/will ever be generated. The chance is basically 0.
legendary
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I see a lot of transactions which send small amounts to
https://blockchain.info/address/1111111111111111111114oLvT2
Seems to me that this is some kind of burning btc for proving something
Which service does this ?

They are stuffing the OP_Return field with some kind of information.  I'd start there.  If you could figure out how their encodings in the OP_Return are working, you might be able to understand their purpose.  

Someone is paying 10 cents for most of these transactions.  50 BTC isn't trivial for most bitcoin users - there must be some purpose here.  

One example of an OP_Return field: OP_RETURN 69643ffe2e35185b949e313ba9ea85dc6b9dfe4c913578f9b05156acc026e42fd8b92919fd07e2 
legendary
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I assumed that someone generated it, ended up with a private key and then declared it destroyed.

You start by generating the private key.

Then you calculate the public bitcoin address from that private key.

The results of that calculation are completely unpredictable, so for any given private key the resulting address will be one of 2160 possible bitcoin addresses, and which address it will be is completely unknown until you calculate it.

So, if you start by wanting a specific address, all you can do is keep trying different private keys and see if the resulting bitcoin addresses match the address that you want.  Since each private key has a 1 in 2160 chance of being the address that you want, you have a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000684% chance of finding the private key for that specific address each time you try.

You have a better chance of winning a major national lottery (such as the PowerBall in the U.S.) multiple times in a row than you do of starting with a specific desired bitcoin address and stumbling on the correct private key in your lifetime.

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Ok. You'll have to hold my hand a little here. Don't all addresses have a private key somewhere along the line? I assumed that someone generated it, ended up with a private key and then declared it destroyed.
Yes the address does have a priv key, but it isn't available/known to anyone. This post should explain it better than me:
You can't just make up an address by typing in whatever you want or even by typing in whatever you want from the allowed characters.  The address must meet certain mathematical requirements, but you can make an address that mostly looks like what you want and then finish it off by calculating for those mathematical requirements.  I'm sure this is explained much better in the thread I linked to in the first reply to the OP.

Technical version: The address I added in the first reply in the OP ends with f59kuE.  That isn't just random gibberish the first person to send to that address made up.  All or part of that is the checksum (mathematical verification that the address is valid).  The checksum is what prevents you from making something up completely, and it exists primarily to prevent accidental spends to typo addresses (it isn't technically required, but because it exists, it is extremely unlikely that you can type an address wrong and send coins).  The address also must only contain valid characters as defined by base-58 encoding, which prevents that particular address from being all caps (uppercase o and i are not allowed in base-58).
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its just people trying to destroy bitcoin, they do this by sending to an address that no one has the private key for. although i don't understand why they would do that lol.
legendary
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I'm curious about these burn addresses. Is there a verifiable way of knowing that the private keys are lost? Sounds like a beautiful long con to me.

The "proof" that nobody has the private key is in the public address itself.  The possibility of someone generating an address (from the private key) that starts with 21 ones is practically 0.

Ok. You'll have to hold my hand a little here. Don't all addresses have a private key somewhere along the line? I assumed that someone generated it, ended up with a private key and then declared it destroyed.

Sounds like you're saying that isn't possible. Can you explain it a little more?
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I'm curious about these burn addresses. Is there a verifiable way of knowing that the private keys are lost? Sounds like a beautiful long con to me.

The "proof" that nobody has the private key is in the public address itself.  The possibility of someone generating an address (from the private key) that starts with 21 ones is practically 0.
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I see a lot of transactions which send small amounts to
https://blockchain.info/address/1111111111111111111114oLvT2
Seems to me that this is some kind of burning btc for proving something
Which service does this ?

no people know it
  same thread
other


Hash 160    0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
This is not a problem
Take zero-hash, and convert it to a bitcoin-address
You will get a valid address to send funds but you will not be able to withdraw funds from it

so no people can send this money? this bitcoin  Shocked
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HODLing is an art, not just a word...
I'm curious about these burn addresses. Is there a verifiable way of knowing that the private keys are lost? Sounds like a beautiful long con to me.

the private keys are not lost.
there are no private keys for these addresses to be lost. these addresses are created without private keys.

there is no way in hell someone can create a (custom) bitcoin address with all the computing power in the world combined.
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I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not sure...
If you look through a few pages you can see most transactions are BTC0.00025 BTC0.00000625 or BTC0.001. I'd have to assume a lot of these are the same person/people (recently anyways).
legendary
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I'm curious about these burn addresses. Is there a verifiable way of knowing that the private keys are lost? Sounds like a beautiful long con to me.
legendary
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The answer to your question is pretty simple: folks sending coins there are people who do not value their Bitcoins.
legendary
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There are a lot of weird people with a lot of BTC out there OP... we will never find a logical explanation for that. Maybe they are reading this thread right now and having a laugh at your confusion, and that's why they do it. Or maybe they are just simply and legitimately moving coins there because they all belong to the same owner and he wants to store all the coins on the same address which is pretty stupid specially when the address is so recognizable. Yeah I cant find an explanation.
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