Topic: Who is this micgoossens?? (Read 2193 times)

Surely, your choice.  Whether you truly understand the risk (which I presume that you do) that goes along with the upside of personal bitcoin promotion, when you publish such practices on the forum, you do end up opening up the topic of personal opsec for comment, and in some sense, the topic evolves beyond  you personally - because you have already made such choice.

Furthermore, if you want to advocate that others engage in similar kinds of behaviors (whether wearing hats, or getting tatoos, or driving lambos with personalized BTC related license plates or other markings), that is your choice too, but such advocacy is also likely to spark a decent amount of push back on the forum, too, regarding best practices.. whether on a personal security level or from a bitcoin advertising angle.  I personally know someone who was contemplating marking his boat (that was acquired completely with bitcoin profits) with a marking that says something like:  "gotten from bitcoin," but I discussed the pros and cons of such markings, and the person came to his senses and decided to be more discreet in regards to his own finances.


Yes.  A personal choice about what is most important, especially when it comes to your own decisions to wear labels and in what circumstances.


Seems that you are considering this matter too personally, if you are considering the topic of gams and the topic of wearing of BTC markings to be related.



I made this related comment larger because it seems to deserve a comment, too.

As you likely realize, there is going to be a lot of variance in perspective in terms of when and how much one person or another will consider lines to be crossed.


O.k.  have fun.

 

yeah i know, i am on the edge of sharing sometimes

but from the moment when i  tattooed the rollercoaster on my arm, is the moment when i show to not give a F*** about much i guess.....

whatever i do or have done ..... i'm a TRUE BTC'er  and thats most important of all. 

i hope the next time when i have some new GAME list  thing to see some new names after this thread








the guy's that says i have to be a bit carefull are absolutly right and much appriciated, but i think being on the edge is OK.... just don't cross is

btw don't mind me today please, cause i'm out and for me.... saturday isn't about shomer shabbos but about getting out and be a bit of TOTAL WASTED.

boys cheers on this fine saturday, wear a HAT and be safe......

I am pulling your chain a bit, and largely my suggestion remains that people cannot really know, with any degree of certainty, the extent to which the online personality of any of us matches with our in real life personality(ies).

My practice has not been any kind of attempt to hide behind the pseudo-anonymity of my on-line personality; however, I have become a bit more comfortable with the passage of time, to play around with such dynamic - so there has been some evolution of my approach, rather than my starting out in a particular way and sticking with it.

Actually, I do appreciate the variety of personas in this space, including the pseudo-anonymity of most of the forum accounts, the public outedness of other persons in the space, even while there is a certain value to looking someone in the face to figure out whether to trust that person more or less with personal information.

The longer that any of us is in the bitcoin (or crypto) space, the more likely we have a combination of relationships, and even discretionary privacy, and my go to answer for people, in real life, who ask me how much BTC I own (upon their first finding out that I am interested in bitcoin) is to ask them a similar question about how much gold they have and how much money they have in their bank accounts.  Usually, the common sense of the inquisitive person will "get it" after just one response from me (in form of a question), but a few of them are stubborn and say that they are ready, willing and able to be transparent about their bank accounts and their other assets. 

My subsequent response, without actually asking the inquisitive person to reveal any of their personal financial details, is that likely they do not have very much to lose if they are willing to disclose such personal financial information (implying that it should be private).  For the most part, I have not had to pursue such conversations of sharing personal financial information beyond that point, yet my general disposition, at that point, becomes to outwardly acknowledge that I am dealing with an inquisitive person who cannot control his/her own level of snoopiness about a topic that they should respect as being private.  So even, if some people want to disclose their own personal finances, seemingly because they want you to reciprocate, to some degree I may be willing to listen to so of their personal information that they want to disclose, and usually, I put a certain level of skepticism in their degree of openness which causes me more skepticism about sharing any of my actual personal information with them (whether financial or otherwise), unless I want the information to leak (which seems likely when dealing with that kind of person).

nobody is outraged in here its just been a fun talk with a HAT-invasion in here......

btw i think its going to be quied here today cause of



you know.... the not doing anything on saturdays :p


and no ratings we are all just some "COOL-NERDS" in here 

What is this table What are the ratings for? And why are you so outraged? Thank you)

HEY! Don't noose the goose!

Pretty sure that Vod thinks he has better things to do ('busting scams' lol smh) than gracing us with his presence.
He should therefore be wearing this frankly totally decentralised and miles more appropriate hat

Nooo!  You won't hurt my feelings if you do.. well, you might a little, but I'll get over it.

While I may have the ability to create an online personality, I choose to be a reflection of who I am IRL. And even though I may have some personal personality traits to work on, I generally try not to alter my personality or character based on the suggestions of others wanting to be appeased... this sounds like a politician.. or a comedian.

It wouldn't be very nerd-like of me to join something just because other nerds are doing it!

@VOD

i did enjoy your thread in here had a good laugh for sure, you seem to be a great guy



cheers gonna enjoy this HAT created coffee

Haha Nice one XhomerX

Now he just nerds to wear it..... like why wouldn’t he ?
Its just a very COOL/NERD avatar the perfect balanced MIX of everything

You mean... Vod made a joke? Tar and feather him!

Disclaimer: this was a joke too

It is interesting to know this is the basis you like to leave trust. I will need to remember this

 I couldn't resist. 



Avatar-sized

The only way you join the nerd squad is by getting into chipmixer. Most of them be nerds there ,SMH. I am just an asshole who acts like like he knows what he is doing but all I am is a shilly-shally.

cOld bLoOded betrayel. 

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Honestly that WO is some next level shit, I'd rather figure out how bitcoin than getting into that. 

Surely, you are not knocking "chuckle criteria" since you have mentioned chuckle as one of your own smerit sending criteria on at least a couple of occasions, if my memory serves me well (which usually it does serve me sufficiently decent when it comes to stalking the jbreher... hahahhahahhaa)

actualy your very right its still XhomerX on top of that BEAR

i apologize SIR

added back in the HAT list

just some "NERD GUYS"------> to------>"COOL GUYS" hypnosis   

but all BTC HODLERS so thats not to bad

gonna try hypnose the other guys as well to visit the WO from time to time

WALL OBSERVER =





there's no name but just name it : THE BTCbullHODLwallobservingNonScammersAntiSHitcoinHATGANG  or something

Haha. Looks like goose threw me out of the hat gang 'cause I wanted to wear mine on my head. C'est la guerre.

Word to the seekers: WO has a probably the highest concentration of merit sources on the board. And some reward in proportion to chuckles.

I am kind of thinking that without necessarily creating different forum accounts, each of us has an ability to create our on-line persona, and maybe even to start over? 

Of course, each of us has our personal predilections, too.  For example, quite frequently I receive suggestions about how I should or could modify my online personality in one way or another that might be more satisfying to some others, and other readings into my online persona as if my online persona is equivalent to my in real life persona. 

Of course, there is going to be some overlap, but there certainly can be abilities in the non-meat space, when not distracted by the actual meat.   

What did I just walk into?

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My merit finger is itching to destroy these pretty numbers

But seriously, you have quite decent statistics indeed:

This was pointed out a few months ago as well (here, at 1223). I've always maintained close numbers, it just seems to be working out that way... I don't post as often as others, and *usually* reserve my posts for serious comments or discussions. I must have balance.



The real question is wtf am I going to do when I hit 1337  

Forget hats and nerds, I need to know how you did this:



That's some deep state legendary conspiracy right there. I don't think even WO trolls can do that.

If I'm understanding the question correctly, social norms and stereotypes, of course.  (.. not that I would agree with them.)

It's obvious to me that the nerds are, generally speaking, the cool ones. There are bad nerds though, even on this forum. I was merely responding to pugman's separation of them.

The point being: Even when factoring in social norms/stereotypes, I'd still choose nerd, any day of the week.... except on Saturday's.. I'm Shomer Shabbos. I don't work, I don’t drive a car, I don't fucking ride in a car, I don’t handle money, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as shit won't be fucking picking between nerds and "cool boys". Shomer Shabbos!!  

Why not both?

The "cool boy" squad and the "nerd" squad? 
I'd choose the nerd squad any day of the week.

Oh great, you WO guys took my own alt and turned it into one of yours. Now he's ditching the nerd squad, and joining the cool boy squad. Great.

Won't be surprised if he next starts ditching meta and gets into WO discussions. Thanks Vod, for bringing this micgoossens to light, which has now led to my alt ditching the squad. 

 Thank you! It's enough for me to see my work is appreciated and I honestly enjoy making them.

^
actualy it is a bit intresting for others......

it keeps the people thinking, where comes those HATS from? they wil be asking around, ending in the WO what will be very intresting for them.....

AVATAR looks good on the HAT as well

and its been added to the collection







a merit shower on XhomerX wouldn't be a wasted one as well.......he would use the Smerits with purpose

I love it! Thank you very much It really looks like it's printed on fabric.
I wanted to shower you with Merit, but since your post is mainly interesting for me and not for others, I managed to resist the urge.

 For now it's a chipmixer hat but if you have a better idea, let me know.

 

Avatar-sized

 

explaned in 2nd post of this thread.

just a chill BTC hodler, with a COOL HAT i would say, WO fanatic cause just like the folks in there very MUCH
@my start of being here, i got a lot of help down there....  and that was very needed

(much more ofcourse as well)

  

Hey, come on in, pull up a hat...

mic's good fun - runs free games every now and then for bitcoin, too.  Price prediction, which most in the WO (including me) are hopeless at.

Do you know after I built that report, I almost did not release it because it listed me so high.

I hoped the community would realize there is very little way of manipulation, and I think it has been accepted.  

You all have too much time on your hands. The WO thread is an insane ranting of whales, wannabe whales, and a shit load of fish looking for someone to manipulate their market behavior. Don't go Vod!  If you do, only look in short bursts of 1-2 minutes and then get outta there.  

... now I have to go read about hats..

EDIT: In all seriousness, I've occasionally visited the WO thread and it is enjoyable. I'm just not worthy enough to post there... or too scared.
And, I've got no clue who micgoossens is. 

thursday ??














JJG............: stfu?!

Of course, I used your earlier post as a springboard to make my point to recognize the need to NOT shit on members who want to exercise stronger levels of personal opsec (by engaging in the opposite of praising a member for their loose - and perhaps dumbass opsec), so I understand that some written out points can be misunderstood.

There can be all kinds of nuances of perspectives regarding whether some online persona is likeable or not or the extent to which they contribute to the form, and/or the degree in which they are popular on the forum.  

I don't see any need for me or anyone else to have to express how much they might like someone or not, yet those kinds of likeability could come out by giving merits or trust or might come out by whether and how the person responds to posts (which likeablity can also change over time and the personal criteria that might be used).  Some folks have thicker skins than others, and for example, we know some folks (thinking about the current USA president) who publicly lashes out at anyone who even implies that they might not like him or question his narcissistic perspectives on life.

Have my last.



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And cause I don't have time for the WO thread today... Shut the fuck up JJG!!!

And, the WO has STFU JJG Thursdays.

stfu jjg 

I have been thinking that the WO thread is the forum's closest thing to a troll box that might also allow a kind of one-stop bitcoin current events shopping that will bring attention to other forum threads too.   

Sure there is a bit of a bitcoin preference twist and a desire to shut down the shills and alt coin pumpers from most but not all of the discussion, but the thread is supposed to be largely bitcoin specific too - while anyone knows that shills and trolls do seem to prefer a one-stop shopping location too (that's what Jorge Stolfi used to say through 2014/15 about why he would not leave the WO thread - until he discovered some "better" places on reddit - I believe r/buttcoin). 

Surely, the volume of posts can become a bit too much, too, and especially during periods of rumblings in BTC's price, my posts included, so sometimes, you can merely just filter, skim or ignore what the posts that do not appeal to you.. again my posts included..

From the outside, there may seem to be some periods of "over-consensus" and cliquishness, including the recent hat thingie-ma-jiggie, and some assertions of other supposed traditions that might merely be talking points  ...  Anyhow, I believe that overall there remain decent attempts to entertain meaningful deviance from attempts at meaningless consensus and substantial challenging of ideas, while a tolerant kind of piling on the shutting down of the shills and altcoin pumpers, to the extent that is even possible.   

^^
yeah visit the wall observer from time to time

edit:  ^cool
swallow your pride, unignore me for a sec, or at least my post up there, all will be revealed^

I agree with you there, and I've probably shared more personal information about myself in some of my posts than I should have.  Then again, I'm not in fear of anyone on the forum, haven't scammed anyone here, and I don't have anything worth hacking or stealing (lol).

I still have a hard time comprehending how I made it into the top 10--and that's not a humblebrag or compliment-fishing.  I'm genuinely baffled.  But if it's any consolation about the merit situation, Vod, you're still #2 in the most recognized list (which you designed the criteria for, lol).  

At least you've succeeded [I know you're joking].  Many members here really are only on bitcointalk to rise in the ranks for whatever reason (ego, power, & money are the usual culprits) and they end up failing miserably, either from ineptitude or being tripped up by greed or some other fatal flaw.  

I've been here for a few years and I know the WO thread exists, but with a red face I have to admit I have no idea what it's all about or why it's so popular.  I think I heard other members mentioning how it's a bunch of TA analysis being shared between a tight group of members.  I feel ignorant--probably because of all my ignorance.

Edit:
Hey, I don't have you on ignore.  I have a serious attention deficit problem (not joking), and I rarely read through entire threads when they get to a certain length so I probably missed something important in this one.  I'll go back and read.

Edit edit:  Heh heh.  I skipped over that post because of all the pictures, but I did just read it now.  OK, fairly good summary of the WO thread, thank you.

shit, I'm in the top 40 with half my amygdala tied behind my back

Meh - you know I don't care about bitcoin.  I'm only on this forum to manipulate stats and boost my fragile ego.   

Speculation is more BTC related Then the merit improvement threads perhaps? 

Visit the thread from time to time and take a HAT

Well, he passed me.  I guess speculation is more popular than busting scams!

He's suchmoon's problem now - I have to concentrate on Jet Cash who wants to knock me out of the top ten.  

^^
That indeed was Some fine TA with my old lady holding that paper

Yeah the anti hatter but true WO’er

^^^ We do even have "this guy" that refuses to wear his hat because of.... "reasons". ^^^

(He also refuses segwit outputs as payment so...  Go figure!)

Ya Vod come on down to the WO saloon. We are all very friendly


We have the finest technical analysis known to bitcoinland


er https://www.tradingview.com/x/REFJQRFt/


On Thursdays we chant 'stfu jjg'

We break important news before the msm has its morning enema


We keep each other motivated during the tough times

We pick apart the scammers in fine detail

We give each other merit (which frankly you badly need) for excellent posts


... and much much moar

Yup.

I don't know what are those PMs about... but yeah, you should pay a visit to the Wall Observer thread at least once in a while. Much more entertaining and instructive than the flat-earth thread and, if enlightening people to the truth is your thing, maybe you can even convince r0ach (realr0ach - our resident hateful troll) that Silver/Gold are soon to be outdated and superseded by crypto ... or better yet, please don't, just put him on ignore upon entering as everyone else does... Thank me later.

Who knows maybe you enjoy it AND you might even come out with a nice hat carefully crafted by our fine milliner xhomerx10.


P.S.: @JJG I am not praising his poor opsec at all, maybe on the contrary... That has nothing to do with my opinion that he is without doubt one (or the more) likeable individual of the entire forum... And I know you agree

only those of my old lady .....

damn and thank you guys, for giving such kind posts about me ...... i know its not the real meaning for merit giving, to just MERIT all the good posts about me and (not forum, BTC related.....)
but i have to total empty my BAG in here   
so sorry for those i didn't give 1


AGAIN THX very much appriciated "especialy HAT community    "

then again from all the threats in here you MUST say the WALL OBSERVER is a special on, yeah there is some nonsense/drunk posting/game playing ETC

but many of the true BTC'ers/HODLERS are in that space.      (everyone there knows i got into BTC with much luck and very low computer skills "still nothing to special", very bad english......) and i improved on all so i can say i have learned a lot around there.

A gambler with a penchant for nice boobies.

I asked the same question not so long ago, start reading here

My real question regarding this subject is, what is up with all the hat avatars

Call me a party poop or a skeptic, but I doubt that sharing a lot of supposedly personal information is any kind of good example for how other peeps (whether newbie or more experienced) should hold themselves out on the interwebs, or in this forum, especially when we are talking about financial information and various other possible personal and controversial information that can bleed over into real life, too.    

We should already recognize that the vast majority of forum members are operating within a pseudo-anonymous basis in this forum, and that is the expectation, so disclosing personal information is not necessary, and many already understand such practices as problematic.  I think that is part of the reason that doxxing people can be reasons to get suspended or banned from the forum, yet I will definitely concede that self-doxing remains another question that is discretionary, but I still would question any rational to attribute credibility to self-doxing based on supposed weaker opsec and supposed "transparency".. and certainly I would question whether it is prudent for a vast majority of members to emulate such self-doxing or to obtain less credibility because they chose not to disclose personal information in these forum threads.

Such pseudo-anonymous basis of most forum members remains the norm of the forum, as far as I can see, and it would not matter if you are on the WO thread or any other thread, and such choice to continue in pseudo-anonymity should not cause people to be less credible because we have various forum systems in place to attempt to help with aspects of credibility when it comes to the forum reputation - including merit, activity, trust and of course post contents and track record in regard to post contents.  

In other words, those who choose to attempt to continue to interact on the forum with largely quasi-anonymous practices should not have any less credibility.. and supposed openness and transparency is almost the opposite of a good model for newbie members to emulate about how to attempt to gain credibility on the forum.  So, in that regard, I would question any praising or even reliance of such supposed transparency and openness, even if some peeps make such voluntary choices about their forum interaction methods.

You're outnumbered by hats in this thread Vod!

I mean, one Vod:

VS.


I like the thread, but there's too much nonsense to read through A summary of all the useful information would be a great addition

And I need a hat too

You could always create an alt... and then accuse him of being an alt of Thule

Unfortunately, he seems to be way too coherent and switched on for that strategy to work... Plus, you know, he is chilled... and wears a hat.

He is the proof for that Speculation section also have worthy posts to get merits.

P.S : If some meta spambies take looks at his merit history they will start to invade the Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion thread also for merit hunting.

You might even come away with a hat. 

You really should drop on by the Wall Observer thread. Then you can get acquainted with the hat club. Maybe you will even get a hat with your Peter Griffin avatar to wear with pride.    You can hang out there when you are need a respite from trying to convince idiots that the Earth is indeed an oblate spheroid.

I *really* never heard of him before - nor him me, based on his PMs. 

I guess this forum is a lot larger than we think!

Mic maybe doesn't have the best opsec, prolly because he doesn't give a shit, but he is for sure the most friendlier, transparent and positive guy in the entire forum. Period.

P.S.: *IF* you really don't know him... you are missing a lot from this forum.

Because micgoossens is easier to type, than his real name. Which is in hexadecimal, and hard to pronounce.

I refer to him as micpeep - because he seems to be a peep, at least so far, and otherwise I struggle with proper spelling.

You, on the other hand, Vod, have a much easier username to remember and spell... but if micpeep passes you, you may want to consider changing your name to micvod.  I know such name change would be longer, but it could pay off in the longer run.   

Haha 

Don’t be jealous @the HAT sir

The big micG is authentic and transparent; an all-round great guy and also very accomplished in the Bitcoin hodl department.  There is no dirt to be found.


edit: and I'm supremely jealous of that roller coaster tattoo

Shit... I merited the first two posts and then I realized that I'm in 8th place. So I need dirt on both Vod and mic-the-hat-wearing-goose now.

I admire someone that will stand up to me that way!   

the little goose is our MAN

who the fuck are you?

^a BIG BTC believer/hodler/user/etc



^very chilling guy, especialy in these boring/sideways BTC days-weeks-moths-(lets hope not years)



^a participant of the hat wearing members    created by XhomerX and maybe hairy for a part



etc...  could go for a v ery long TIME

Climbing the merit rank and I have never heard of him before!

https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=mostmerited

He is threatening to boot me out of 9th place.  

I need some dirt on him so I can leave negative trust and put him in his place...