Topic: WHo will win - ETH or ETC? (Read 3883 times)

Neither. 

A 3rd party will come in reap the spoils.

Does the forked chain really have strong support by businesses and many other projects? I do not think they made official public announcements to the public giving confidence to Vitalik's chain. Most of the businesses are now refusing to comment and are trying to stay away from all the news. The only businesses that said something in public are Coinbase and BTCe. Some people think their plan is to not allow their users to get ETC and will get it for themselves.

I'm sorry, what was that you were saying?

I feel exactly the same!

ETH is already dead, the only hope is ETC since ETH has that blockchain bailout negative fame. The only hope for the project is keeping the original chain. If ETH wins it will be a disaster.

If ETH wins actually Ethereum will lose because there is no reliability for any project related to Ethereum again. Every time something happen will they hardfork and push everybody to that without any consensus? We see how market reacts when they did it. ETC should be the living fork for Ethereum's future even though DAO made a lot of Ethereum to one person, he didn't abuse the system. It's all Slock.it and DAO's fault.

I voted for ETH, not because I am a fan of ETH nor from ETC, just because ETH has still a strong support by businesses and many other projects building apps on the chain. However, it is hard to say now who will be the better one. I also think there is space for both projects.

i agree, that and also the huge pump and dump which is going on right now with this massive trade volume has created a lot of heat which obviously attracts a lot of attention from investors since nobody dislikes a big pump like this!

Why ETH and ETC are fighting.. i thought that they are just the same company or the devs are the same.. someone are posting here that ethereum are converting right now into ETC so i think ETC will be remain win,

"Hard work" made my day.

Centralization kills.

Regards,
ChekaZ

Hacker is on the way... so forget about parity:)

ETH = Vitalik, money and all hard work which they done.

Who is behind ETC? did you find out? a fucking hacker with his mates keep this chain alive...

That's what I am thinking too.

It seems to me, that the only thing keeping ETH/ETC hot right now is the battle between them.

i think it is going to take while but this is what eventually will happen to this coin. the developer has ruined it forever, but i think he got enough money out of ethereum and by dumping his coins a couple of times on top that he simply doesn't care any more.

neither, both will overstay their welcome and are just becoming tradable shitcoins which will just be used for riding waves, with no actual real world usage.

Superb appraisal.

Can't add a single thing to it. That is exactly how things are I would say.

Logically, there's not much reason why ETH and ETC shouldn't come close to parity, as their propositions are nearly identical.  The small differences between them actually neutralize each other:
- the argument "there's a team behind it - the Foundation" can be a bonus for ETH, but the fact that there's no centralized power behind ETC can be a bonus for ETC
- the argument "there are many improvements for ETH in the future" can be a bonus for ETH, but their absence (apart from copying code) can be a bonus for ETC: for instance, the switch to PoS that is foreseen but not coded yet in ETH is an uncertainty that is probably absent from ETC
- the argument "ETC is a thief's coin" can be seen as a bonus for ETH, unless there's a next hack.  The fact that ETC is immutable and is neutral wrt to "morality" can be seen as a factor of stability versus ETH which is now supposed to fork over every theft.

So my idea is that ETH and ETC will reach parity or close.  However, the big question is: will this be reached by ETC climbing, or by ETH falling ?  Many people think that ETC will climb.  But we see that the overall market cap of ETC + ETH is slowly but steadily falling.

It is very well probable that ETC has done most of its climbing, and that we now wait for ETH to plunge to near ETC levels.

This may very well correspond to the perceived loss of value of ethereum since the DAO hack, namely the essential impossibility of making large complex contracts without unforeseen effects.  The dream of complex smart contracts was what was driving the long term value of ethereum (and could even threaten bitcoin's first place in the long run).  That dream turned out to be a night mare now, and so, ethereum was strongly overvalued in the market.   So the total market cap of ETH + ETC should drop significantly taking this into account.

As such, it is not so much ETC which is in for a rise, but rather ETH which is in for a severe market correction in the long run: the value of smart contracts is much smaller than anticipated earlier on, with the DAO enthusiasm.

The marketcap seems to be all over the place for ETC, but it was getting close to $300M

It all look like ETC is going to win the battle. If you still have the btc, you might just want to buy more this time else you'd miss the train going there.
Rides like this don't come along everyday eh?

The original Ethereum classic chain hash rate is still increasing. It also increased very quick and it is now 1/3 of the hash rate of the forked chain. The real consensus will be shown soon by the miners, the market and the users. In the coming months it is possible that it will override Vitalik's decision of forking the chain giving the real chain and real outcome for the people.

yes ETC will gonna win. ether has hard fork only. it will be vanished soon when hard fork ended.
ETC got the majority of investor between the two.