Topic: Who won the bet (Read 3877 times)

Quote from: FFrankie on June 05, 2017, 04:43:49 PM

I have called Casascius coins over priced. Kialara bars are nice and I think Max did a great job on them, but that doesn't mean the secondary can't get over priced on them... Many collectibles have times where the prices go wild.

Then the next question would be, was that comment necessary? Should I go into every Casascius sale/auction and mention that they have overpriced and quote you as well? Even though I may or may not think that they are, I still avoid doing that (and have done it at least *once*).

Is you comment asking if it was necessary, necessary?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions,

you are all beating a dead horse, is this going to drag on forever?

Dude, all this stems from 3-4 years ago. Shares turning to seats, OG's alt nano being the big boss. Seats being produced just to cover debts that OG rang up from bad business decisions.. OG sucked dick to get where he is today, he didn't get there by being a good business man. He was advised numerous times to not go all in on BFL.. that was the downfall of nasty fans. He produced 50% more shares to cover the debts from his bad decisions..

Hmm.. This is a story I'm hearing for the first time. Who is your source or what kind of proof is there? Considering these accusations are pretty wild you should back it up with proper proof so that the community can decide.

I was around during the BFL shenanigans though, crazy times and I do sometimes feel bad for those who did in fact go all in on it.

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I have called Casascius coins over priced. Kialara bars are nice and I think Max did a great job on them, but that doesn't mean the secondary can't get over priced on them... Many collectibles have times where the prices go wild.

Then the next question would be, was that comment necessary? Should I go into every Casascius sale/auction and mention that they have overpriced and quote you as well? Even though I may or may not think that they are, I still avoid doing that (and have done it at least *once*).

Is you comment asking if it was necessary, necessary?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions,

you are all beating a dead horse, is this going to drag on forever?

Dude, all this stems from 3-4 years ago. Shares turning to seats, OG's alt nano being the big boss. Seats being produced just to cover debts that OG rang up from bad business decisions.. OG sucked dick to get where he is today, he didn't get there by being a good business man. He was advised numerous times to not go all in on BFL.. that was the downfall of nasty fans. He produced 50% more shares to cover the debts from his bad decisions..

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 04, 2017, 11:13:12 PM

I have called Casascius coins over priced. Kialara bars are nice and I think Max did a great job on them, but that doesn't mean the secondary can't get over priced on them... Many collectibles have times where the prices go wild.

Then the next question would be, was that comment necessary? Should I go into every Casascius sale/auction and mention that they have overpriced and quote you as well? Even though I may or may not think that they are, I still avoid doing that (and have done it at least *once*).

Is you comment asking if it was necessary, necessary?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions,

you are all beating a dead horse, is this going to drag on forever?

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Og’s comment to sell b/c the prices are not within the realm of sanity should be seen as an attack on every member of the community who holds a Kialara. He is basically calling everyone insane.

It is not unusual to have discourse regarding the going rate for items being traded on a regular basis. I would think it would be unusual to not have discussions regarding the "market" rates of various coins in the collectibles section.

Many of your claimed owners of your work likely do not visit these forums very often, and as such are unlikely to be aware of the going market rates in the secondary market for your work. Additionally, these claimed owners have sufficient wealth so that even a few thousand dollars of increased value of collectable coins would not cause them to even consider (re)selling your work because the impact on their financing would be so small.

I would have to agree with others in saying that the price in question for your work does appear to be overvalued. The basis for this is my review of various auction threads of coins manufactured by Kialara and of coins manufactured by other coin manufacturers. I am sorry if this statement offends you, however it is the (brutal) truth.

Cant remember if I have called you a cunt or not recently.. if not - Cunt, even if I have - double cunt... Go deepthroat OG, ohh... QS - OG.. is this a coincidence?

pair of losers go touch each other in the mens bathroom of a petrol station

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I have called Casascius coins over priced. Kialara bars are nice and I think Max did a great job on them, but that doesn't mean the secondary can't get over priced on them... Many collectibles have times where the prices go wild.

Then the next question would be, was that comment necessary? Should I go into every Casascius sale/auction and mention that they have overpriced and quote you as well? Even though I may or may not think that they are, I still avoid doing that (and have done it at least *once*).

I made 1 reply about it... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Lauda on June 05, 2017, 09:27:54 AM

I have called Casascius coins over priced. Kialara bars are nice and I think Max did a great job on them, but that doesn't mean the secondary can't get over priced on them... Many collectibles have times where the prices go wild.

Then the next question would be, was that comment necessary? Should I go into every Casascius sale/auction and mention that they have overpriced and quote you as well? Even though I may or may not think that they are, I still avoid doing that (and have done it at least *once*).

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 04, 2017, 11:13:12 PM

I would have to agree with others in saying that the price in question for your work does appear to be overvalued. The basis for this is my review of various auction threads of coins manufactured by Kialara and of coins manufactured by other coin manufacturers. I am sorry if this statement offends you, however it is the (brutal) truth.

In other words: "It's overvalued because I don't have any.". This is the bullshit that you hear from any non-Kialara owner. This reminds me of altcoins which actually deserve their valuation being "overvalued" to individuals who failed to realize this and invest into them on time. Disclosure: I only own a single Kialara as far as the public is informed.

Quote from: Blazed on June 05, 2017, 09:20:37 AM

If there were an auction going for a Casascius coin, and it was generating a decent amount of interest, I can’t imagine Blazed or OgNasty suggesting it was overpriced because they both hold Casascius coins. It’s in their financial interest for these coins to fetch high prices.
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Og’s comment to sell b/c the prices are not within the realm of sanity should be seen as an attack on every member of the community who holds a Kialara. He is basically calling everyone insane.

Correct and correct. Some individuals need to compensate somehow.

I have called Casascius items over priced over the years...welcome to buying and selling things with intrinsic values.

The only intrinsic value to Cas. is the metal itself, thus premiums on some of them are also an absurdity (if you want to argue that Kialara's are overvalued, then look inside your own backyard first).

I have called Casascius coins over priced. Kialara bars are nice and I think Max did a great job on them, but that doesn't mean the secondary market can't get over priced on them... Many collectibles have times where the prices go wild.

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 04, 2017, 11:13:12 PM

I would have to agree with others in saying that the price in question for your work does appear to be overvalued. The basis for this is my review of various auction threads of coins manufactured by Kialara and of coins manufactured by other coin manufacturers. I am sorry if this statement offends you, however it is the (brutal) truth.

In other words: "It's overvalued because I don't have any.". This is the bullshit that you hear from any non-Kialara owner. This reminds me of altcoins which actually deserve their valuation being "overvalued" to individuals who failed to realize this and invest into them on time. Disclosure: I only own a single Kialara as far as the public is informed.

Quote from: Blazed on June 05, 2017, 09:20:37 AM

If there were an auction going for a Casascius coin, and it was generating a decent amount of interest, I can’t imagine Blazed or OgNasty suggesting it was overpriced because they both hold Casascius coins. It’s in their financial interest for these coins to fetch high prices.
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Og’s comment to sell b/c the prices are not within the realm of sanity should be seen as an attack on every member of the community who holds a Kialara. He is basically calling everyone insane.

Correct and correct. Some individuals need to compensate somehow.

I have called Casascius items over priced over the years...welcome to buying and selling things with intrinsic values.

The only intrinsic value to Cas. is the metal itself, thus premiums on some of them are also an absurdity (if you want to argue that Kialara's are overvalued, then look inside your own backyard first).

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Quote from: comtruise1 on June 03, 2017, 09:29:23 PM

After reading everything I think OGNASTY and Blazed should really apologize to the Kialara community. Og nasty fan coins and Blazed diy coin cannot even remember the name is no where near a Kialara. I just recently got into cryptos and reviewing the past sales, I feel that because Blazed and OG hold a large collection of Casascius coins they are bitter that the demand is going down for Casascius coins and some other coins that they have not cornered the market with is slowly rising in value. Og should return the money. Be the bigger man OG I will respect you more if you do. BTW I am interested in a Kialara silver and a redeemed casascius 25 btc coin.

I simply said they feel over priced to me. I have been in the physical crypto game for years and stated my opinion. I think Kialara are nice pieces of work and have owned several of them over the years. My coins have been sold out for quite a while with no new ones being made for 1+ years so I am not sure how relevant they are in this. I am not going to apologize for calling it how I see it...stop being so sensitive. If I had trashed his works or something then sure I would apologize, but my statement was hardly anything rude against "the Kialara community". I have called Casascius items over priced over the years...welcome to buying and selling things with intrinsic values. Why not post that from your real account anyways?

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Quote from: comtruise1 on June 03, 2017, 09:29:23 PM

After reading everything I think OGNASTY and Blazed should really apologize to the Kialara community. Og nasty fan coins and Blazed diy coin cannot even remember the name is no where near a Kialara. I just recently got into cryptos and reviewing the past sales, I feel that because Blazed and OG hold a large collection of Casascius coins they are bitter that the demand is going down for Casascius coins and some other coins that they have not cornered the market with is slowly rising in value. Og should return the money. Be the bigger man OG I will respect you more if you do. BTW I am interested in a Kialara silver and a redeemed casascius 25 btc coin.

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I agree. I hope the community can strive to be more respectful of other's preferences. I would like to see manufacturers of physical cryptos produce better quality products, increase innovation, and expand awareness of cryptocurrencies in general. Right now Kialara is doing all of these; that's why I believe there is such interest.

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