Topic: Who would like to have ios BTC wallet? - page 2. (Read 3373 times)
where's the BETA thread gone?
Sorry, is this a question? 
Sure I didn't. We just decided to save iPhones from death creating an ios app that works.
I even thinking to use those videos in our promo.
Sure I didn't. We just decided to save iPhones from death creating an ios app that works.
I even thinking to use those videos in our promo.
It's not as though nobody has thought of making one before.
Did you miss the week where everyone was smashing their iPhones and buying Androids because Apple removed the Blockchain.info app?
Did you miss the week where everyone was smashing their iPhones and buying Androids because Apple removed the Blockchain.info app?
Fuck Apple, everyone should get Android phone.
I agree. Excuse my ignorance, but why doesn't apple allow a bitcoin wallet app? I have the Mycelium bitcoin wallet for android and I love it, but I digress...
Fruit, I'll take a look at it / download. I'm working on an app myself (not a wallet), so I'll support other devs. Regarding being a scammer, etc., people are rightfully concerned. Once you publish more about yourself, get your landing page done, etc., people will feel more secure. Transparency will be everything. You might also want to consider applying some rules to the mobile version, such as a second layer pin code that users would have to enter to do a transaction of larger than X.
Or perhaps build a locally stored password app? (I'm just brainstorming here.) The app would interact with your html 5 wallet, but you never, ever store the password. The benefits would be you never store the password + it doesn't violate Apples quasi-ban on wallets. Use some type of public/private key combo.
Or perhaps build a locally stored password app? (I'm just brainstorming here.) The app would interact with your html 5 wallet, but you never, ever store the password. The benefits would be you never store the password + it doesn't violate Apples quasi-ban on wallets. Use some type of public/private key combo.
We will do anything possible to proof that.
But main aims are: easy, light, fast, secure(from 3rd parties).
P.S. we are in Beta trying to polish the product, not to proof we are not scammers
But main aims are: easy, light, fast, secure(from 3rd parties).
P.S. we are in Beta trying to polish the product, not to proof we are not scammers
I just wonder why banks are not scammers in your eyes? They hold your money.
Paypal? Scammers too? Webmoney? same thing?
This post might offend you, sorry for that, I didn't mean. I understand your right to express opinion.
When one bank goes bankrupt, you didn't tell that all banks should now work in other way. You have to deal with the risk to get additional service, this is the game rules.
I understand that you can't sleep well when somebody owns something that is considered yours.
But I was sure that it is normal nowadays. Examples: your insurance, patrol cards, banking cards, facebook (owns everything about you) same thing with google. Pilots? when you are in the plane they own something yours.... aren't they?
Cheers
Paypal? Scammers too? Webmoney? same thing?
This post might offend you, sorry for that, I didn't mean. I understand your right to express opinion.
When one bank goes bankrupt, you didn't tell that all banks should now work in other way. You have to deal with the risk to get additional service, this is the game rules.
I understand that you can't sleep well when somebody owns something that is considered yours.
But I was sure that it is normal nowadays. Examples: your insurance, patrol cards, banking cards, facebook (owns everything about you) same thing with google. Pilots? when you are in the plane they own something yours.... aren't they?
Cheers
the difference is, that with btc-online-wallets its easily(!!!) possible to make sure the operator cant scam.
too many btc online wallets (i consider most exchanges as online-wallets too) has scammed people. so why dont you just try to proof that you wont such a thing?
Fuck Apple, everyone should get Android phone.
Did you bought a rifle in case google will block apps in googleplay?
Fuck Apple, everyone should get Android phone.
I just wonder why banks are not scammers in your eyes? They hold your money.
Paypal? Scammers too? Webmoney? same thing?
This post might offend you, sorry for that, I didn't mean. I understand your right to express opinion.
When one bank goes bankrupt, you didn't tell that all banks should now work in other way. You have to deal with the risk to get additional service, this is the game rules.
I understand that you can't sleep well when somebody owns something that is considered yours.
But I was sure that it is normal nowadays. Examples: your insurance, patrol cards, banking cards, facebook (owns everything about you) same thing with google. Pilots? when you are in the plane they own something yours.... aren't they?
Cheers
Paypal? Scammers too? Webmoney? same thing?
This post might offend you, sorry for that, I didn't mean. I understand your right to express opinion.
When one bank goes bankrupt, you didn't tell that all banks should now work in other way. You have to deal with the risk to get additional service, this is the game rules.
I understand that you can't sleep well when somebody owns something that is considered yours.
But I was sure that it is normal nowadays. Examples: your insurance, patrol cards, banking cards, facebook (owns everything about you) same thing with google. Pilots? when you are in the plane they own something yours.... aren't they?
Cheers
Sure I will I already did.
We were thinking on solution like "Download wallet.dat feature".
But that means additional security holes. Probably in future...
But I got your point. I'm just talking about light secure app, where you store less then a bitcoin just for pocket spendings.
If you don't need such an app, thats ok.
But this functionality is ok for our loyal customers/testers. Whose input I appreciate most of all!
They just believe people and understand that we understand that Bitcoin startup can newer become big scumming people
I know that MtGox rumors are still in the air and that influences all the solutions made over all the crypto-coin stuff.
I already did.We were thinking on solution like "Download wallet.dat feature".
But that means additional security holes. Probably in future...
But I got your point. I'm just talking about light secure app, where you store less then a bitcoin just for pocket spendings.
If you don't need such an app, thats ok.
But this functionality is ok for our loyal customers/testers. Whose input I appreciate most of all!
They just believe people and understand that we understand that Bitcoin startup can newer become big scumming people
I know that MtGox rumors are still in the air and that influences all the solutions made over all the crypto-coin stuff.
private keys should never ever touch your server.
all signing should be done by the client itself.
the client can send encrypted private keys to the server if it wants to store them - but again: your server should not be able to see them clear-text.
if you dont implement that you are scammers in my eyes.
just have a look at blockchain.info which does exactly that: no private keys on server.
btw: i thought they had an ios-web-app? is it gone too?
Sure I will I already did.
We were thinking on solution like "Download wallet.dat feature".
But that means additional security holes. Probably in future...
But I got your point. I'm just talking about light secure app, where you store less then a bitcoin just for pocket spendings.
If you don't need such an app, thats ok.
But this functionality is ok for our loyal customers/testers. Whose input I appreciate most of all!
They just believe people and understand that we understand that Bitcoin startup can newer become big when scumming people
I know that MtGox rumors are still in the air and that influences all the solutions made over all the crypto-coin stuff.
I already did.We were thinking on solution like "Download wallet.dat feature".
But that means additional security holes. Probably in future...
But I got your point. I'm just talking about light secure app, where you store less then a bitcoin just for pocket spendings.
If you don't need such an app, thats ok.
But this functionality is ok for our loyal customers/testers. Whose input I appreciate most of all!
They just believe people and understand that we understand that Bitcoin startup can newer become big when scumming people
I know that MtGox rumors are still in the air and that influences all the solutions made over all the crypto-coin stuff.
I did. It sounds hacky and i doubt many people would do it. Sorry if I offend you saying this.
It's not as hacky as it sounds like.
It doesn't require a jailbreak.
The iOS wallet app could also been made open source so people can check what's going on.
Sorry to say that, but in future, nobody will use web-wallets (or similar) where the user doesn't own the private key.
What have we learned from Mt.Gox?
The one who don't own the private key they don't own the bitcoins signed with them!
In my eye, only a nativ iOS wallet will have success.
Would you trust your money to a startup company?
I wouldn't.
I did. It sounds hacky and i doubt many people would do it. Sorry if I offend you saying this.
What I mean it is that is the great plan, but I believe that simpler = better.
I personally use Mi 2S (android) and iPhone 5c. I clearly see ads and cons of each. But if I do something I like it to be like ios not android. ios has some limitations? 1% of users can name them. Makes sense?
Overall, I like the conversation with you guys.
But pls understand us. We are not a scammers, we just willing to create great, safe, easy service.
What is still a riddle for me, why are you spending time chatting me instead of opening the link fruitwallet.com in safari and see everything your own eyes.
P.S. If you are afraid of smth, just give me fruitwallet address I will send some BTC for you to test.
What I mean it is that is the great plan, but I believe that simpler = better.
I personally use Mi 2S (android) and iPhone 5c. I clearly see ads and cons of each. But if I do something I like it to be like ios not android. ios has some limitations? 1% of users can name them. Makes sense?
Overall, I like the conversation with you guys.
But pls understand us. We are not a scammers, we just willing to create great, safe, easy service.
What is still a riddle for me, why are you spending time chatting me instead of opening the link fruitwallet.com in safari and see everything your own eyes.
P.S. If you are afraid of smth, just give me fruitwallet address I will send some BTC for you to test.
Making full native means going to Appstore, app can be thrown off from there any minute. Kinda risky to rely on this..
You didn't read my plan. did you?
Apple made shitty decision about bitcoins, they will change their mind soon. So we all will have iOS wallets !
I fully understand your concern.
All your points are very fair!
We are in Beta, our main aim for now is to POLISH the product.
TOS and privacy will be published asap.
Company and names will be published a bit later.
Landing is in development, I understand that looks a bit strange.
Here are few BETA screenshots by the way.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ojhzuf6j02hxe09/large_iPhone%28dash%29.png?token_hash=AAHwE793HEGEDXoALLA5zsnTJOhBk8sMPSMQx64iAubfDQ
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/5kgzutps662350q/large_iPhone%28send%29.png?token_hash=AAGz4ZNECKoXaOiVCG7pCudMmtw0UGFQNre2rRRWEVZ1VQ
All your points are very fair!
We are in Beta, our main aim for now is to POLISH the product.
TOS and privacy will be published asap.
Company and names will be published a bit later.
Landing is in development, I understand that looks a bit strange.
Here are few BETA screenshots by the way.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ojhzuf6j02hxe09/large_iPhone%28dash%29.png?token_hash=AAHwE793HEGEDXoALLA5zsnTJOhBk8sMPSMQx64iAubfDQ
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/5kgzutps662350q/large_iPhone%28send%29.png?token_hash=AAGz4ZNECKoXaOiVCG7pCudMmtw0UGFQNre2rRRWEVZ1VQ
Same as above, keep your secrets keys.
And maybe we shouldn't bother with apple, at all.
And maybe we shouldn't bother with apple, at all.
Yes, on the server. The security team made it well protected.
So you say. Unfortunately that's not enough. You could be scammers. You could be incompetent. Your website isn't doing anything to convince me of either point:
- You don't publish your real names -- that tells me none of you is ready to put their reputation on the line
- You don't publish your company info -- do you even have a company?
- Your TOS and privacy policy do not exist -- why should I trust your security policies if basic things like this fail?
- The only explanation of your security policies is "We use 5 layer security system" -- Is this a joke?
- You never mention that you will store the private key and have full control of all the coins in the wallet
I'm sorry if I sound grumpy but that's not acceptable...
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If it is a matter of trust, then it is a matter of time.
Pools, Markets store your coins on their servers, you believe them only if they are quite old and have good reputation. Right?
I go to great lengths to avoid giving control (private keys) to anyone. I would definitely never give my coins to an operation that had the above bullet point list. Pools, Markets store your coins on their servers, you believe them only if they are quite old and have good reputation. Right?
Yes, on the server. The security team made it well protected.
Making full native means going to Appstore, app can be thrown off from there any minute. Kinda risky to rely on this..
jonas.schnelli, it is a solution for pocket expenses. To use in cafe, ATM machine, transfer your pool earnings etc....
We understand people won't store a lot BTC on mobile wallet, same as you aren't taking a lot of cash with you all the time.
If it is a matter of trust, then it is a matter of time.
Pools, Markets store your coins on their servers, you believe them only if they are quite old and have good reputation. Right?
Thanks for your questions.
Making full native means going to Appstore, app can be thrown off from there any minute. Kinda risky to rely on this..
jonas.schnelli, it is a solution for pocket expenses. To use in cafe, ATM machine, transfer your pool earnings etc....
We understand people won't store a lot BTC on mobile wallet, same as you aren't taking a lot of cash with you all the time.
If it is a matter of trust, then it is a matter of time.
Pools, Markets store your coins on their servers, you believe them only if they are quite old and have good reputation. Right?
Thanks for your questions.
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