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sr. member
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so I guess the winklevoss and others are stupid and brave for investions tons of there funds into bitcoin am I right?  I mean sheessh they gotta be pretty dumb to do so.
This. It seems all the young and smart IT entrepreneurs are getting on the bandwagon, some more cautiously than others.
There are a lot of people getting on the bitcoin bandwagon and investing in and using bitcoin. They are not however putting their entire life savings into bitcoin as the OP suggests doing. Putting your life savings into bitcoin would mean putting everything you have into an asset class that did not even exist a decade ago, that most investment professionals had not even heard of three years ago, and is incredibly unstable now.

Bitcoin will likely succeed over the long term, however it is far from certain that it will.
legendary
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In others words, bitcoin cost nothing to fiat imprimery.  Grin
Buy bitcoin, it's priceless. Cheesy
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
What other facts do you have?
I'm afraid I can't tell you without irrevocably warping the time-space continuum... destroying your world and mine in the process.
donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
so I guess the winklevoss and others are stupid and brave for investions tons of there funds into bitcoin am I right?  I mean sheessh they gotta be pretty dumb to do so.
This. It seems all the young and smart IT entrepreneurs are getting on the bandwagon, some more cautiously than others.
legendary
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Investing your life savings into Bitcoin is borderline retarded and indicative of a low financial intelligence.

That statement is so true it hurts.

So what do you think is a safe/good amount of your savings to invest in Bitcoin? 20, 30 over 50 percent?

The key here is it all depends on how much savings you've got. Most people I know have life savings of less than a year's salary, and don't own any assets. For them, it would probably make sense to invest a lot, >50%, because they could make the money back by living very economically for a few years.

If you have a million dollars in the bank, then it would be pretty dumb to invest >50% of it IMO, I would say no more than 15%, more like 5%

But if you have a million dollars and own 10 houses worth a million each, why not invest 100% of your money? If it fails, sell one of your houses and you'll have your money back.

This is such bad advice. You're advising the guy who doesn't have money to invest a lot of it, and the guy who has tons to invest a little.

No, I stand by my recommendation - It's all about damage control, what you'd have left if Bitcoin failed, and how much the investment could change your life.

The guy that doesn't have much money benefits a lot more by investing a higher percentage. Lets say they put in 100% of their life savings which is $5,000, and it multiplies by 10 in a year or two, they now have $50,000 which is a life-changing amount of money for this person (considering their current lifestyle). If they lose it all, then they could make that $5,000 back in a couple of years, by saving $50/week.

A guy with $1m is already sitting pretty, so for them to invest the whole million and lose it would make their life considerably worse - it would be a hell of a lot harder, if not impossible, for them to make the money back. Yes, they could turn their $1m into $10m, but this wouldn't better their life that much. After all, they can already buy a nice house, a nice car, and still have enough money to put into low return investments which would pay them enough interest to buy food and clothes.

Geddit?



The guy that only has $5k cash in hand usually has tons of debts and liabilities and no assets. The guy who has a million cash in hand, probably has a ton of assets and his house or 2 paid off.

If the poor guy loses $5k he's struggling to put food on the plate. If the rich guy losses a mill, he cant eat steak dinners and bang escorts every night.

The rich guy has all his needs more than satisfied so he stands to lose less than the poor guy who is struggling to make ends meet.

See my POV?

sr. member
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so I guess the winklevoss and others are stupid and brave for investions tons of there funds into bitcoin am I right?  I mean sheessh they gotta be pretty dumb to do so.
full member
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Reading a story from a few years ago where someone invested all their life savings into Bitcoin and started to live off Bitcoin. that guy was a lucky guy as now the price as more than tripled to when he invested in it. Anyone else brave enough to do this?
thats normal many people use a ton of money or gambling all he have to get double of money for it . if they success he life will easy and fun to take a easy life .

Right, lots want easy money to have easy life.  Cool
sr. member
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Knowledge is Power
I pretty much did, but as a student that's not a lot of money. I lost it all gambling on bitcoin dice  Cheesy

Greatest lesson of my life
newbie
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Reading a story from a few years ago where someone invested all their life savings into Bitcoin and started to live off Bitcoin. that guy was a lucky guy as now the price as more than tripled to when he invested in it. Anyone else brave enough to do this?
thats normal many people use a ton of money or gambling all he have to get double of money for it . if they success he life will easy and fun to take a easy life .
sr. member
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i thought about it but we all know it will be curtains if it goes wrong
hero member
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Yep, me. I have 95% of my net worth in bitcoins.

By the way it's typical how you categorize this as brave or stupid, rather than smart/wise/visionary.

Furthermore, this also leads to the question: who is brave/stupid enough to invest their live savings into fiat?


That's awesome. But I did only have brave first of all but many people were saying it would be stupid so I put that up in the title too it could be smart or wise but it could also be a massive fail. No one is stupid enough to invest their life savings into fiat that's why we are here investing in Bitcoin.
sr. member
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Loose lips sink sigs!
Yep, me. I have 95% of my net worth in bitcoins.

By the way it's typical how you categorize this as brave or stupid, rather than smart/wise/visionary.

Furthermore, this also leads to the question: who is brave/stupid enough to invest their live savings into fiat?

Don't forget the equity in someone's home. Most ppl have cash savings and home equity so their life savings is more than just in fiat.
sr. member
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Loose lips sink sigs!
How is it a fact that Bitcoin will appreciate year over year? Bitcoin has depreciated by HALF this year already and it's a simple law of economics that as supply increases (e.g., more Bitcoins are mined) prices decreases.

What other facts do you have?

we're not advising a wealthy sixty year old man with $10 million to invest... (in which case investing no more than 1 or 2 percent would be wise). but telling 20 year olds to invest only a tiny fraction of their money into something like bitcoin is actually irresponsible, because this could be their one chance to become wealthy... lord knows they're up against enough hurdles with government debts over their lifetimes.
Fact: Nation-state fiat scrip = depreciating asset, year over year, always.
Fact: Bitcoin = appreciating asset, year over year, always.

Don't think about it as INVESTING in Bitcoin (appreciating asset).
Think about it as DIVESTING from fiat scrip (depreciating asset).

Suddenly everything will make a whole lot more sense.

Listen up fools, dump 100% of your wealth into Bitcoin and never look back. Do it right now!



Let the motherfucker burn. You don't wanna go down with that obsolete sinking ship.

Bitcoin is your lifeboat! JUMP IN! Hurry, before everyone else does!

donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
This is war. If you don't put 100% into it, then why bother at all? Either you heard the shot that started the war or you didn't. General Jackson heard it and took action. Now Satoshi Nakamoto sounds the call. If all you see in Bitcoin is an investment, then please go back to eTrade.
legendary
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amarha
There certainly are a whole lot of people giving the same advice my financial adviser was giving me in 2010.

Fortunately I did not listen to him.

Stick with your old fiat ways of investing. You may be able to retire when you are 75 with enough to die slowly.

I never imagined BTC would go so high so quickly. It's amazing how fast things can catch on these days. Respect to the people who had the balls to put a good chunk of money in back then and actually hold. That takes some conviction.
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
There certainly are a whole lot of people giving the same advice my financial adviser was giving me in 2010.

Fortunately I did not listen to him.

Stick with your old fiat ways of investing. You may be able to retire when you are 75 with enough to die slowly.
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never take the risk you can't afford to lose

Right. And... do not put all eggs in a single basket.  Tongue

I agree that investing 100% of your life savings is a very bad idea but what ever you can invest has a pretty good chance of paying off in the long run.
legendary
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Investing your life savings into Bitcoin is borderline retarded and indicative of a low financial intelligence.

That statement is so true it hurts.

So what do you think is a safe/good amount of your savings to invest in Bitcoin? 20, 30 over 50 percent?

The key here is it all depends on how much savings you've got. Most people I know have life savings of less than a year's salary, and don't own any assets. For them, it would probably make sense to invest a lot, >50%, because they could make the money back by living very economically for a few years.

If you have a million dollars in the bank, then it would be pretty dumb to invest >50% of it IMO, I would say no more than 15%, more like 5%

But if you have a million dollars and own 10 houses worth a million each, why not invest 100% of your money? If it fails, sell one of your houses and you'll have your money back.

This is such bad advice. You're advising the guy who doesn't have money to invest a lot of it, and the guy who has tons to invest a little.

No, I stand by my recommendation - It's all about damage control, what you'd have left if Bitcoin failed, and how much the investment could change your life.

The guy that doesn't have much money benefits a lot more by investing a higher percentage. Lets say they put in 100% of their life savings which is $5,000, and it multiplies by 10 in a year or two, they now have $50,000 which is a life-changing amount of money for this person (considering their current lifestyle). If they lose it all, then they could make that $5,000 back in a couple of years, by saving $50/week.

A guy with $1m is already sitting pretty, so for them to invest the whole million and lose it would make their life considerably worse - it would be a hell of a lot harder, if not impossible, for them to make the money back. Yes, they could turn their $1m into $10m, but this wouldn't better their life that much. After all, they can already buy a nice house, a nice car, and still have enough money to put into low return investments which would pay them enough interest to buy food and clothes.

Geddit?

full member
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never take the risk you can't afford to lose

Right. And... do not put all eggs in a single basket.  Tongue
legendary
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If the wallet is unencrypted

seriously ... who is the hell fucking idiot that it don't encrypt wallet ?
he deserve to lost his BTC ... for this.
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