Topic: Who's The Loser Here? - page 12. (Read 2235 times)

and I think we will find more losers in the future when there will be more regrets because they have given up when market prices are in a downturn.

If you invest from any buisness dont hesitate it if you lose ok accept it, but if you win its blessings  for you thats why we need to gamble it because we dont know what happen. Dont panic, just think this is just a begining if the bullrun everything will come back.

I think that the loser in this crypto community are those people who entirely sell their btc's during the dip because they had experienced panic. People were afraid that they might lose too much money during the dip if they do not sell their btc. However, I would say that there are strong people that supported btc all the way wherein they believe in btc's capability and that they greatly believe btc will somehow regain it's market price value and will recover soon.

All the people who lost money are actually losers, so there are no winners here now.
But I believe that when a bull market arrives one day, the losers will become winners. This is a matter of time.
No eternal loser, no eternal winner.

I think it will be a good scenario for BTC price, because in bad one I see it approximately at 1000 $. I hope happy end will be in a few years.

It looks like you need to check what the actual definition of "fact" is. Bitcoin being zero is very impossible. It can significantly crash down to probably even 3 digits, but zero? Too unlikely.

Can you name some of the problems you're referring to?

Bitcoin is open source, hence there are no centralized authorities to do the deciding. Forks are inevitable.

i don't think so. the price now so deep. i think we should buy it now

I agree. Those who are negative thinker are that loser, they do not have chance gain for better and leave the market easily when they cut their losses. It is the dip which you should take to invest because it is easier to make profit when the price increases. Bitcoin is really an asset for now who CH we can hold much longer. You are not a loser when you keep fighting to have success.

fixed that for you.

i crossed out ponzi because bitcoin is not a ponzi.
a ponzi is where there is no asset. its just a single man grabbing funds from peter to then drip feed small payments to paul to keep paul happy.
bitcoin is not that
bitcoin is where paul sells his asset and peter gets the asset. end of story for paul, he is not then drip fed profits.. and peter can do the same. they are not tied to sell only to a certain person and there is no certain person working as a middleman hoard of fiat.

as for the rest that i selectively did quote you on without crossing out. you do have partly right. but you need to understand it better

the paid core devs have $100m+ to get alternative networks running and populated
LN is nt a bitcoin network but a separate commercial network for multiple coins, which require locking up coins into contracts requiring others permission to move

this does not mean the bitcoin network is dead and cant scale/grow. but right now innovation of the bitcoin networks utility has remained stagnant for the last 3 years. while they well full on promoting other networks.

we just needs to get more decentralised developer teams to re-ignite bitcoin innovation. not these silly 'the only solution is non-blockchain side networks of contracted hoarding

This dec will be like last dec, they seem to let stuff slide through the holidays, then in jan/feb the bottom will fall out of BTC, it will either revert to slightly above $1k, or $400, me thinks about $1400, Bloomberg is saying $1500.

Then there will be another drop to $400, to test that floor, after that most people will not care, some will stick around, once BTC goes below $100, the MSM will report its death, and then RETURN will be hopeless. BITCOIN will become synonymous with 'black-death' or 'cholera', or 'ISIS'

I used to think that miners would keep stacking btc, just for fun, but now with a GLUT of 14T/sec s-9s for almost free, I see them used a space heaters, so even the difficulty may never go down,

It's just an expensive way to heat your house

Bitcoin is a scam, a ponzi.  Panic.  Sell at a loss.  Bitcoin is a scam, a ponzi.  Panic.  Sell at a loss.  Bitcoin is a scam, a ponzi.  Panic.  Sell at a loss.  Bitcoin is a scam, a ponzi.  Panic.  Sell at a loss.  Bitcoin is a scam, a ponzi.  Panic.  Sell at a loss.  Bitcoin is a scam, a ponzi.  Panic.  Sell at a loss.  

Don't worry, I will obtain those bitcoins you give up and increase my fortune in the coming years.  All you need to do is keep working at your hum drum job - I'll have a burger, vanilla shake, and fries now snap to it.

Well most of the smart folks are silent.

Most of the rich guys have already cashed out,

IMHO most of the shills are bots, they certainly write like bots, and think like bots, and respond to comment like bots.

Lots of vested interest to keep bitcoin alive, but like any 99 year old guy, the quality of life is such like "Why keep the dead alive?"

It's clear to me all along here that CORE never gave a shit about BITCOIN long-term, its always been about putting on a band-aide and keeping the PONZI afloat by all means possible for as long as possible.

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This is why I am pissed about BITCOIN, because all the original passion for Libertarians ideas has been loss, just 'money'

"How can I make a MIllon dollars on BTC quick?" that was the daily question on this forum last year, a refuge for morons

I really think that a lot of the original smart guys 'engineers' who found bitcoin post 2009, and got some btc by mining, they moved on, ... then all these hustle people with exchanges and criminal biz models run the show now, ...

I'm not sure there is any value in the crypto-industry, like Friedman always asks or Taleb "Show me one valuable thing to come out of block-chain?", ... I mean its just a linked-list, not special software, even the 51% double-spending problem is a LIE.

BTC is what it is, just a MANIA (TULIP, Southsea,... ) of our times.

That doesnt say December will be much worse.
It will all be just another speculation.
Some will say it will be pumped and some will say it will be a dump.
No one is accurate. Remember that.

I dont really care much as long as all altcoins will be dragged down.
Dont want to be seeing another coin to be more valuable than bitcoin.
If that happens then I am out. It means so much for me.
I do believe in bitcoin technology first hand before all the shitty dust that is coming out.

Who loses? the losers are people who live in the panic of bitcoin. Indeed, there are many possibilities that occur in bitcoin until the end of this year. But I will still hold my bitcoin and be ready in bitcoin in the new age later.

Written by a true winner

The people at the top of all pyramid scams, can never understand why the people at the bottom that came in last are unsatisfied the people at the top are eating steaks and sleeping with the most beautiful whores, they just assume that everyone is living as such,

Clearly, we have  BITCOIN social inversion here where the early miners who got rich, just can't figure out why the 'losers' who came in last are pissed.

I have an idea of equality, how about all the rich happy guys, spread their wealth around, so the losers WIN?

It shouldn't be difficult for CORE to mod the source, so everybody who bought in 2017 and sold at a loss gets their ORIGINAL money back 10X paid by the whales.

Shit $600 BILLION USD was lost, it went somewhere, certainly there is some rich guys that pity the 'losers'? Right?

most smart folks in this forum know bitcoin is going to crush its pointless garbage anyway, a hyped up pow token designed to waste a lot of electricity, but the infrastructure of the cryptoindustry is valuable though, but the current corruption climate is basically pointless to fight against, it will neverendingly try to save and shill bitcoin its an interest based behavrior its the same like hitler never giving up pushing the germans into the war. till the very end.

I suspect  it will be much the same as last year, this time last year dec 2017 btc held well through the holidays, as most selling occurs in october/nov

This year the real drop occurred in jan/feb, it will be the same next year, probably tax reasons; we just saw a 50% drop in the last few weeks, if it repeats like last year, we got our dead-cat bounce now, and then early next year another 50% drop coming, and then probably some more buying at $1500,

Just keep cleaning out the morons, until there is no flesh on the bone, ... its the goldman-sachs way of the world.

I guess psychologically they make you feel good having got through xmas intact, and then you come back in feeling like a champ, and they turn you into a chimp, ... how many times do the monkeys return to get burnt? Until the banana bowl is empty, or they're dead,

So long as this site keeps tell you a LOSS is a WIN, ... I guess this death by a 1,000 losses can keep on going until BTC is below $400, but at sometime even the morons will figure the game out? Right?

Why looser? Its offensive and if you would be in bitcoin market since many many years you would see its nothing new, nothing spectacular, nothing important. Day as everyday in bitcoin.
Only emotionally invested people are new people in bitcoin world

Most experts are predicting a short-term floor of $1500

So yes, at some point BTC will pass $3k, but when?

Nobody has the answer to that question,

The final floor of btc will be zero, fact, when? who knows

Eventually people move along, new generations will see btc as a 'geezer-coin'

BTC has so many glaring problems, and CORE has refused to address, in fact the community just forks every time there is a conflict, this is called 'tower of babel' and never ends well.

I think the loser her how has been invest in the crypto market in December 2017 that time all crypto coins like bitcoin or any other tokens or coins are an up all-time high but after that came down around 80 % still now so how was invested that time they are the real loser here.