Who/what will fuel the next bull run? - page 4.

Wind_FURY

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Quote from: bitcoinoffer on October 19, 2018, 04:14:05 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 19, 2018, 04:06:25 AM

OP, the whalecummulators, the institutional investors, and the next halving. Be ready. Bitcoin will reach 6 figure levels before 2025 as long as there is no better cryptocurrency invented than it. Cool

2025 is a very long time, today the investors are not having that much of patience that they will wait for next year also. That is why the market is not holding the long position.

Hahaha then is the plan? To become rich overnight by doing nothing? By investing so little and "win" millions like winning the lottery? Do you know how stupid that is?

People like that die poor.

TradeRafael

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I think the next bull will be the IOS power who can buy up to a thousand units or only 100 and you will see the short term your returns go to the moon

omorfi

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When I start to see an extraordinary upward movement in Bitcoin prices, I will think that there will be an ETF approval soon. And i am going to keep in mind that Bitcoin's price can quickly come down shortly after ETF approval. That's my scenario about bull run.

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Quote from: dogtana on October 18, 2018, 11:08:59 AM

Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.

In a really general sense, all we can say is "new investors" because increasing buying demand is what drives bull runs.

But it won't be any single catalyst or any single group of investors. It's a matter of supply and demand being fleshed out over months or years. Right now, last year's "new investors" are largely underwater, sitting on losses because they bought into the bubble last year. A lot of those investors are being shaken out of the market, selling to stronger hands who will be holding through the next bull market.

Institutional investors might be significant in the next bull run, if things like Bakkt or an ETF are online and the demand is there, but it's too early to assume that institutions are particularly interested in Bitcoin.

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Quote from: dogtana on October 18, 2018, 11:08:59 AM

Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.

I think we are all tying our hopes to ETF at this point, if it didn't get delayed or new ones are always on the horizon we would have moved beyond it but since it technically wasn't "rejected" we are still keeping a bit of hope inside each other always talking about how bakkt will be approved or cboe will be approved and we are going to see a huge increase in price whenever they get accepted. At this point I believe the price will go up when ETF gets accepted (if it gets accepted at all) just from the people who would buy thinking it will go up and automatically increasing the price.

Aside from ETF there are really not that many things that would increase the price suddenly but I think if Satoshi Nakamoto came out of his shadows and talked about how he is coming back to bitcoin world that would create an amazing reception and the price would skyrocket as well, aside from him noone would make that type of difference and he is not coming back for sure.

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Quote from: cellard on October 18, 2018, 08:14:51 PM

Quote from: boyptc on October 18, 2018, 11:50:06 AM

Last year's bull run.

No Bakkt.

No ETF.

No lightning network.

We will see on how will these going to fuel the next bull run.

True, however we had a halving, which at the end of the day is the real deal, since the supply is shrinking and it's a cold shower to remember that fact. Some people seem to forget that bitcoins are limited in amount. There's bitcoin for everyone, it's just a function of price. However, there is limited space that you can claim on the blockchain. When you understand this you stop fucking around looking for the next government-approved toy, be it in the name of CBOE Futures, ETFs or whatnot, and you simply start accumulating and holding. Then it's just a matter of time that the price goes up. The rest are just extras that may speed up the rocket.

That's one hope for 2020, I remember 2016 the first halving I've witnessed. The effect is pretty good and that influenced the price seriously and last year its not included with the bull run but I guess it contributed somehow after a year, so the best is yet to come.

I agree that its just a matter of time.

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All I know is that I know nothing.

next bull run doesn't need any "fuel", it will happen exactly like all the previous times it happened. strong and big.

if you mean the initiator of the next bull run then it is a different argument. and most of the replies before are mostly talking about that "initiator" not the fuel itself.
that can be many things,. i personally think Lightning Network will be the ignition.

YuginKadoya

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There is no particular reason actually, It can be anything we can think of But actually, we can indicate if we are getting on board on a bull run movement I really think that the bull run is normal for bitcoin if there is a bearish market there is an indicator of a bull run to really happen, and there are indicators that it is really happening and I think we can see it between bitcoin and altcoin correction in this indicator we can see the bitcoin dominance with the entire Cryptocurrency market, Another indicator is on the medium statistics that in the bull run starts you can see that the statistics began to grow they start in shoot up is a sign of indication, And just like Reddit memes that picturing the rise of bitcoin the price is at an increase that is why you can see that a bull run may occur.

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Quote from: dogtana on October 18, 2018, 11:08:59 AM

what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money?

I do not know anything about the " next bull run ", but I'm going to say the following, we need to forget bull run and focus on adopting bitcoin, we've read good news every day, for example:

130 Coffee Shops in Europe Started to Accept and Sell Crypto

Goldman Sachs and Galaxy Digital’s Mike Novogratz Invest $15 Million in Crypto Custody Firm

ICE’s Bakkt Reveals First Crypto Product as Physical Bitcoin Futures

US SEC Asks for Further Comment Regarding VanEck Bitcoin ETF

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Quote from: dogtana on October 18, 2018, 11:08:59 AM

Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money?

It doesnt have to be new investors, it can just be a more rapid exchange of money at a higher agreed price to that trade. Monetary velocity of BTC is much larger then conventional currencies and helps boost its effective valuation I think.

What we have here is a potential breakout, been a while forming but seems a meeting of two trends is still occurring

bitcoinoffer

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 19, 2018, 04:06:25 AM

OP, the whalecummulators, the institutional investors, and the next halving. Be ready. Bitcoin will reach 6 figure levels before 2025 as long as there is no better cryptocurrency invented than it. Cool

2025 is a very long time, today the investors are not having that much of patience that they will wait for next year also. That is why the market is not holding the long position.

Wind_FURY

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OP, the whalecummulators, the institutional investors, and the next halving. Be ready. Bitcoin will reach 6 figure levels before 2025 as long as there is no better cryptocurrency invented than it. Cool

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who was responsible for the 20x rise of ~2009 from <$0.01
who was responsible for the next bull run to $1, to $10 to $20 to $40 to $80 and $100 to $200 to $1000 to $20000?
the same "who" will be responsible for the following rises too!

there is no magical money coming in to magically bring the price up. there is money coming in as the adoption grows and more people buy bitcoin (increasing demand) and with that the price goes up.
all these things about Bakkt, ETF, SEC,... are only nonsense drama in general. bitcoin adoption as a decentralized currency is the reason for the rises. the big rises and the bubbles however happen because of these hypes and are temporary.

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Quote from: dogtana on October 18, 2018, 11:08:59 AM

Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.

last we year we reach an all time high of almost $20000 usd without goldmansachs, yale, mit, harvard and many more, so i think there are the additional catalyst from the last all time high and its just a matter of time to ripen, i think the coming bull run will exceed our expectation.

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It's gonna have to be honest to God adoption. It gets real from here or bust.

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Quote from: boyptc on October 18, 2018, 11:50:06 AM

Last year's bull run.

No Bakkt.

No ETF.

No lightning network.

We will see on how will these going to fuel the next bull run.

True, however we had a halving, which at the end of the day is the real deal, since the supply is shrinking and it's a cold shower to remember that fact. Some people seem to forget that bitcoins are limited in amount. There's bitcoin for everyone, it's just a function of price. However, there is limited space that you can claim on the blockchain. When you understand this you stop fucking around looking for the next government-approved toy, be it in the name of CBOE Futures, ETFs or whatnot, and you simply start accumulating and holding. Then it's just a matter of time that the price goes up. The rest are just extras that may speed up the rocket.

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Bought in December, learned hard lesson, and bought more throughout this year. Water will raise all the boats.

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Quote from: boyptc on October 18, 2018, 11:50:06 AM

Last year's bull run.

No Bakkt.

No ETF.

No lightning network.

We will see on how will these going to fuel the next bull run.

Bitcoin can behave as it wishes without any dependency and that's what makes it so special. The rise in the past year is the greatest proof of freedom.
It's not known by anyone whether the increase will be this year or not, but i'm sure it will have an impact.

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bitcoin has always been in a bull run
2016 above $300
2017 above $900
2018 above $5800

if you mean what will spark the next calve(smal bull) run up a ATH mountain and then a cub(small bear) correction.. then the answer is anyone

the 2013 event was sparked by ASICS taking over the GPU
the 2017 event was sparked by VC money buying up coin to pay off developers contracts to get a certain feature locked in by november 2017

so it could be ETF, bakkt, or other things.
but those are just temporary events..

as i said. we have always been on a solid bull run year on year. and the stable bottomline value that remains higher then previous years is only going to hold by USERS and miners who both have acquisition costs higher than the previous year to refuse to sell for less thus keeping value up by not selling for less

Tanya12356

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My personal opinion is that Bitcoin grows well after 3 halving in 2020.
What do you guys think?

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