Topic: Why are americans accusing their lefties of communism for open borders? - page 2. (Read 198 times)

There's a huge difference between people who want to destroy a society in order to build a socialist state and the rules and regulations that exist when a socialist state has been created.

If you keep that in mind you wouldn't be confused. Open borders combined with a welfare state combined with an attempted immediate citizenship destroys the existing system. This is good if you despise what's in existence and not good if you want to preserve the existing social structure.

Evidently.

Protip:  There is a reason why Communism is also called “Internationalism”, the early Communist quasi-governing body was in various forms called “Communist International” (First International, Second International, etc.), Communism is rife with talk about “world revolution” (and “Workers of the world, unite!”, etc.), and the official anthem of Communism is titled The Internationale.  (For obvious reasons, it is not a national anthem.)

Now, whyever do you suppose that an internationalist may object to national borders?

The majority of people who opine on Communism know next to nothing about what it actually is.  This does include most “American right-wingers and Trumpers”—however, you know even less!  You confuse the implementation details of Communism in a particular territory, at a particular point in time, with the essence of Communist principles (or what passes for “principles” to a Communist).

I suggest that you study political philosophy and history before you show such gross ignorance, which I am not in the mood to correct at length.  Read some books.  Start with both 19th and 20th century Marxist theoretical literature (to see what high-level Communists say in their own words—I suggest ignoring the low-level Communist propaganda until you first understand the high-level theory), the better literature of anti-Communists of the same era (to see the actual reasons why intelligent people criticize Communism), and some basic history—not necessarily in that order.

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I could never help but notice that Capitalism is globalist, whilst Communism is internationalist.  And I could never help but notice that nobody else seems to notice...  Anyway, I am just passing through on my way to make some investments on Communist China’s stock exchanges.  Indeed, the whole Communist Chinese economy is booming with the activities of big, multinational globalist corporations!  Meanwhile, in America, the big, multinational globalist corporations are big supporters of the relaxed border controls at all levels which help bring them “cheap labour”, “free trade”, etc.  Well, got to go!  Those hot Communist stock picks await me.

I learnt long ago to stop attempting to understand what Americans think about these things. They're all aliens.

Real ones, not the illegal type.

It is better to close the borders as soon as possible. See what is happening in Europe. People from other countries are making trouble in the countries that receive them

american right wingers and trumpers accuse the democrats and liberals as "communists" for having open borders but, in real life communism like the soviet union the borders where pretty much closed.

complete confussion.

also soviet communism was very conservatives, no gay marriage, women destined to marry and get children etc.

but still the liberals in the usa are being accuse of communism.

why?

regards