Topic: Why are so many people dumping GPUs all of a sudden? (Read 4675 times)

Once bitten, twice shy.  If you don't want to heed the advice of people who have experienced exactly what you are saying is improbable, that is your choice. But don't think you're going to change the minds of people who have actually been screwed by said process.

you could easily take that photo, then switch in a brick before mailing. (at least thats the buyers scam argument)

I ship proirty mail with sig too and i make buyers pay shipping

same here i regularly cancel sales to buyers with low feedback
idgaf about thier dumb rules

 I have my ebay settings on their most restrictive + US only + no PO boxes.

Even though it's against the rules, I cancel sales with people with low <20 feedback and or not long term ebay users. I have done this with no complaints.

I only ship Fedex ground with signature required.

I think you have to sell on Ebay to have access to the gamer types.

You can't choose who you sell to however. You can only block people with negative feedback you can't block a buyer with 0 feedback.

Only 2 ways of choosing buyers is to either make it have a VERY HIGH buy it now price but accept OFFERS and only accept the offers from people with feedback.

Another way is to wait until the last few seconds of the auction, if the highest bidder is a 0 feedback bidder you can always just cancel the auction saying "No Longer Available" and relist it next week.

key on ebay is never sell international and never sell to a user with less than
20 postive feedbacks , also selling alot of cheap items is better thsn selling expensive gear like a 1070
which is why i sell cheaper stuff like 380s 280s 470s is far less incentive to scam and burn thier ebay ratings.

 High end items attract scammers like shit attracts flies

well at least they can't charge you back after 180 days like with paypal, there should be less scammers there

I think the best time to sell a GPU is also the time when you can get screwed the most.

Kind of what happened in 2014 with people selling Bitcoin ASICs on eBay.

People that got rid of their ASICs sold them when Bitcoin peaked but the buyer later realized that difficulty is going up and price is going down and they don't actually make what the mining calculator predicted, instead of taking a huge loss on an ASIC, like paying $1000 for an S2. They just made a claim a month later and got a full refund. Only way to get ROI doing those times.

Same thing is happening right now with GPUs. Too many inexperienced people buying them thinking its gauranteed income and later on they want refunds because they dont realize how much power they use or that there is something called difficulty.

you can alo sell on amazon they don't use paypal, should be more safe, someone tried it?

These ebaystories are putting a hamper over my plans to possibly sell a few gpus at ebay. I always thought the buyer protection program was good, but apparently it is easily gamed. Thanks for the heads up!

I will weigh in here and add that I no longer sell on eBay either. I have had a similar experiences to that of philipma1957 and adaseb, and in my case a buyer claimed he got a defected card 3 months after he received it.

First off, I don't sell a GPU unless I am 100% confident it works. Every GPU I re-sell I have flashed back to original BIOS and install it in a test rig that I have several games and benchmarks installed on. I will run the Furturemark benchmark suite at the highest level for the given card, and also briefly fire up and play a few demanding games to make sure it stands up to real use. Once satisfied, I remove the card, gather all accessories, replace dust caps, etc. give a final quick dusting, and package the card up while taking photos for the auction.

I had been documenting all eBay transactions with photos after having a few close calls before. I had my listings show the serial number of the cards in one of the listing's photos, I even put the last 6 digits of the GPU serial as part of my listing title. I clearly described the cards as used along with their age and that I did not accept returns. Once the GPU's sold, I took another set of closeup photos of the GPU with the a copy of the winning bidder's invoice showing the auction number, his name, etc. along with the card's serial number and closeup shots of all angles. I photographed it going into the retail box and even into the final shipping box. I took the box to the post office and got a receipt showing drop-off time and weight of the package (to show it wasn't empty). At the time, I too thought I had plenty of evidence.

The buyer opened up a case and said the card I sent him was DOA and had a picture of some other card with clearly blown out components, but it was not even the same make/model as the one he bought. It was indeed too long of a time for eBay, but PayPal sided with him stating that my photos didn't prove I actually sent the card pictured, only that I took pictures of some card. FYI...PayPal now allows buyer to contest a purchase for up to 180 days!!! I asked them what form of proof they would take in case this would happen again in the future and they could not give me an answer. I tried to escalate the claim as far as I could but eventually just gave up.

Since I had good experience's previously, sometime later on I tried to sell another GPU and almost instantly I knew I made a mistake. First sign of trouble came when buyer began asking if I sent the item out yet, when the tracking information was clearly visible. A few days later, sure enough I get a item not received claim. I log in and click on tracking and it shows the item as delivered. I reply back with this information and the guy claims he never received anything. I double check his address with PayPal and everything checks out, and think I am covered by PayPal's seller protection policy. No go, as it turns out due to the previous incident months earlier I do not qualify for the program as I am now considered a bad seller. Before this I had been an occasional seller of many items for over 5 years with over 800 positive feedback and thousands of dollars of transaction history so would have thought I would have more credibility that some 0 or 2 feedback buyer.

These are just two example of where the buyer was successful in his scam, as I have had numerous "close calls" when I state the card was used, I offer no returns and most of the cards I sell are still under the manufactures warranty anyway if there really was a problem. Some might complain a bit but have never pushed it all the way.

Anyway, I have since closed both my eBay and PayPal accounts as they seems to have been taken over by scammers. I now try to sell via Craigslist or local paper ads, and even though it is a much smaller market and usually a hassle, occasionally I am successful. Plus without having to worry about the eBay/PayPal fees, I can usually offer it for $10-$15 less than online and still make more myself, so a win/win for both buyer and seller.

If you record a video where you put a special seal on the box, that would be very hard to get around.

and i clearly said that i do a photo with the gpu inside the box showing the same code(SN) before i ship it, so he can't say shit like that

the best thing would be to do a video when you give the package to the courier with he package opened showing the gpu and evrything with he serial number

it's a bit of a pain in the ass but it's the only thing to do to avoid those scammers...

he can still claim that the gpu does not work..but at that point you can get it back i guess... never had such issue, anyway i'm not selling only there i actually prefer to sell on forum

I was a power seller on ebay.  There are 3 or 4 more buyer scams that the seller can not stop.

I no longer sell much on ebay.


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=philipma1957

this is my feedback above.

I stopped selling expensive items  a year or two ago.

I sold a mining pc  when btc was mined with gpus.

Buyer was cute tried a return  with 2 dead gpus.  He did not realize I had all serial numbers taken.
He said that he got 2 cards with  serial numbers different then I sent.
He had 3 feedbacks I had 1000+ feedbacks. With 0 neutral and 0 negative.

Ebay said I could not prove that the serial numbers on the good cards were ever sent to him.

He won.  I followed up for 3 months  and they caved in and gave me 250 in ebucks as a courtesy to a power buyer /seller.

I do not sell much anymore.  I still buy but sell very little.

^hes saying the buyer can claim the box with the same serial number arrived, but was empty.

ie: you ship me a gpu i bought via ebay/paypal. it arrives but the box is empty, except for a 2lb paperweight (about what the gpu would have weighed). i send ebay/paypal a photo of the paperweight sitting inside a box that has the advertised serial number. clearly you shipped the advertised box, but theres no way to prove that it contained a gpu and not a paperweight

uh there is something called serial number, i repeat there is no way he can avoid it, box and gpu are tied with that number

He will just take the GPU out and take a photo of an empty box. Or put a brick inside it and said the GPU was switched.

I've been burnt a few times with eBay and their unfair Buyer Protection policy that others abuse.

Im selling some of my gpu too, because the difficult very high, and the price of some altcoin down too.
for me selling some gpu is best solution for this day, and buy some POS coin to cover it.

no he must provide the photo of the code, the same box i've send, there is no way he can get around this