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Quote from: Loepuenkyou on June 28, 2017, 03:58:42 PM

never trust about HYIP
hyip only ponzi scheme, you can get profit another member, if not new member HYIP site can scam
so all HYIP only wait to scam

The answer is very simple. Because there is no guarantee to profit in hyip and in hyip you can get a loss. That's why there is no legitimaten the hyip business. Because it will only hurt you I prefer to stay away from hyip because it can make you addicted and loss

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Dumbass signature campaigner bumped this ancient topic, and nobody notices? You guys, hopefully, are going to get your posts deleted. As if the answer to this isn't obvious by now. Please take a look at the date of the OP and someone please lock this topic.

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Because if they were able to produce something of real value they would not have to be a HYIP in first place.

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Quote from: Lorenzo on July 16, 2014, 04:31:04 AM

Every single business following the HYIP model has turned out to be a ponzi scam.

You have the answer to your puzzle,every high yielding investment program is a sort of ponzi schemes which promises high returns and the fact remains that none of that can be sustainable .Never trust anyone that promises to give you any astronomical returns for your investments than the banking investment returns,people who are greedy usually falls for these kind of frauds. Can you provide one good example of a good HYIP you have invested in,i bet you cannot.

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Quote from: shield132 on June 28, 2017, 04:42:50 PM

Just curious how HYPE can be legit. Imagine guys website which tells you that they are legally registered HYPE and they are going to scam you if you invest money. If you want high profit with invest in online website, better to change your mind and go out and start work. Everyone likes easy or free money but no one likes working, ironic, without hard work we can't develope. So no one will give you legally and guaranteed 15% or higher of invested money, just ask yourself how can they cover fees, give you money and profit for them.

I try to be pretty careful when making generalized statements. I've never actually SEEN an HYIP that wasn't a scam, but I have most certainly not seen them all. So as for whether or not some of them may be legit, I can't say, but I wouldn't risk money with any of them.

Nearly any form of earning income, whether online or offline, will take time and effort, and possibly some spending money. If you see significant value being offered without a significant expenditure of time or effort, be wary.

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Just curious how HYPE can be legit. Imagine guys website which tells you that they are legally registered HYPE and they are going to scam you if you invest money. If you want high profit with invest in online website, better to change your mind and go out and start work. Everyone likes easy or free money but no one likes working, ironic, without hard work we can't develope. So no one will give you legally and guaranteed 15% or higher of invested money, just ask yourself how can they cover fees, give you money and profit for them.

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never trust about HYIP
hyip only ponzi scheme, you can get profit another member, if not new member HYIP site can scam
so all HYIP only wait to scam

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HYIPs are made to don't last forever, they run it while they can, while there is money being deposited to continue the system. Without the big number of deposits every new day this system isn't sustainable, because the income come exclusively from new investors to pay the old ones.

The only way to make it work is if the HYIP owner is a master, genius of trading and gambling. He can take the investors money and double, triple it fast to pay them back and make the scheme survive, but I think there isn't anyone able to do it.

The interest rates could be lower, a more reasonable amount, but this way the HYIP owner doesn't get enough attention from most investors he focus, those who wants fast profit.

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HYIP the bad is after put in the money ald starting got interest.
so when the amount big, the owner not do anything for that, only can run.

My idea is must start a lock-in period like one month. (use the money and time to do anything which can earn money start-up)
starting month percentage is lesser. second month will be more.
Then the percentage different every month due to performance.
There are not such script right? i seen a lot HYIP script w/o this.

If private fund raising can do like this will be better.
Online only have "hyip" program to do as person.
like become personal fund manager.

If one investment do successfully then can become starting pioneer like facebook, google etc.
how to become "legit", also a problem too.

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Quote from: johnyj on June 25, 2015, 04:56:05 PM

There is, called money printing, but only exclusively provided for the banking class. Or, if you are very close to your banker friend, you should also have some HYIP to invest in

there is a form of money printing in the cryptoworld, it is called make your own altcoin with your own blockchain and premine it, then repeat, it's probably not working anymore like in th eold way, but it was very akin to what banking do

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There is, called money printing, but only exclusively provided for the banking class. Or, if you are very close to your banker friend, you should also have some HYIP to invest in

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Quote from: Slark on June 25, 2015, 10:31:35 AM

The answer is simple: If you are running a HYIP investment and gather a lot o money from people there is too much temptation to grab it all and just run.
And that is exactly what is happening each and every time. The only way it to design a service or method of protecting gathered funds, something like time lock would be fine idea.

Some IPOs are legit. Sometimes is the only way for project makers to get funded. For example I trust that the 6 million that Maidsafe developers got are in good hands and they will deliver an amazing product.
If you do your research you should be safe. If you don't know 100% where are you putting the money and the people behind it just dont do it.

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Quote from: wotter11 on July 18, 2014, 04:02:03 PM

because in the long run you always lose with HYIPs. When I was younger I put small bits of money in them and short term I made money but long term because I got greedy I lost it all. Huge returns are not sustainable in the long run. That and people just get greedy.

One of the software developer company, asked so many consumers to invest in their software developing program, few of the clients trusted them and invest their money hoping that the application software will go into the market and yield high profit, ultimately during the last recession period, they tend to close the software company and unfortunately all the investors lost the money, can we call this type of investment as HYIP's ? or your loss is similar to this scenario.

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Quote from: InwardContour on July 21, 2014, 02:46:22 PM

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Quote from: Soccruo on July 21, 2014, 08:53:51 AM

I was very unlucky with HYIPs, every time I entered in, I was too late and in the final stage of the scam...

I do believe that is the entire point of them. You weren't "unlucky", it was by design.

Yes, only the first ones are winners and are payed by the remaining people.
But even if you are among the first, the website can be taken down just because of some big investor which brakes the ponzi scheme.

HYIPs can never be legitimate because they're easy and everything easy comes with a god damn twist. The ones who buy in sooner and leave get a good profit and most of those who are kinda late, end up losing their investments. Its better to leave your bitcoins in your pocket than toss them up to the pockets where they don't deserve to be.

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The answer is simple: If you are running a HYIP investment and gather a lot o money from people there is too much temptation to grab it all and just run.
And that is exactly what is happening each and every time. The only way it to design a service or method of protecting gathered funds, something like time lock would be fine idea.

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No legitimate hyip in this world, just method of scamming people.

Just invest in reasonable things, like hold bitcoin, gold, and stock.

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Quote from: techgeek on May 28, 2015, 02:01:51 AM

Ponzis can be in multiple forms, but theres more obvious then others.

I know its a bit off but when you go to school, youre also buying into somewhat of a ponzi since the job is never guaranteed, but has better odds then an actual scam.

By this way, life is also a Ponzi scheme... No matter what you try, you are born to die!

LOL I like this quote Cheesy

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Quote from: techgeek on May 28, 2015, 02:01:51 AM

Ponzis can be in multiple forms, but theres more obvious then others.

I know its a bit off but when you go to school, youre also buying into somewhat of a ponzi since the job is never guaranteed, but has better odds then an actual scam.

By this way, life is also a Ponzi scheme... No matter what you try, you are born to die!

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Quote from: techgeek on May 28, 2015, 02:01:51 AM

Ponzis can be in multiple forms, but theres more obvious then others.

I know its a bit off but when you go to school, youre also buying into somewhat of a ponzi since the job is never guaranteed, but has better odds then an actual scam.

No, getting an education is not a Ponzi scheme. Apparently you wouldn't know anything about that, however.

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Ponzis can be in multiple forms, but theres more obvious then others.

I know its a bit off but when you go to school, youre also buying into somewhat of a ponzi since the job is never guaranteed, but has better odds then an actual scam.

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A real HYIP scheme would not work since it would easily become overextended when the rate of withdrawals exceeds the rate of deposits
The reason that Madoff was able to keep his running for example is because they were able to convince users to retain assets and due to its famous reputation could keep a steady inflow of new investors to pay out old ones.

That said real estate and hedge funds take advantage of chaotic environments and leverage their equity to maximize profits through trading other peoples assets so its possible for them to have great years perhaps not every year but consistently enough to get 10-15% in some years using a trading strategy.

Rent and property management is an example of this as long as the housing market remains stable there is a solid return on income from managing them, that is why their are really rich people who manage trailer parks especially from criminals etc to make a good buck.

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