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hero member
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Hello,

I'm the official Americas Cardroom rep. We are the fastest growing poker site in the U.S. We have been in business since 2001 and we have super fast payouts.

We don't have a web client right now, but we are currently working on one to be launched in the future.

on August 2nd we will have a $1 million dollar guaranteed tournament: The Million Dollar Sundays tourney

You can deposit and cash out using Bitcoin.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you need help or have any questions.

The ACR Team
sr. member
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SWC had good traffic before they launched the new software. Most of the players are aware of it as Micon advertised in the WSOP events. But now they don't have online client so traffic is less. I am sure once they have online client we will have lots of new players back in the game.
hero member
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In math we trust.
Also for some weird reason, bitcoin gamblers really like the classic dice game.
They are free to customise the odds. Maybe it's because of satoshidice, which was
once the biggest gambling site out there.
legendary
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I'm not poker expert or something, but I think that serious poker players prefer games IRL over clicking on web..

This is exactly what I was thinking.  I don't play poker all that often, but really there is no substitute to facing your opponents, having a showdown, and going home the victor or loser.  I have tried online poker but it lacks that certain thrill I get from conflicts.  The only advantage to online poker is that i can do it in my underwear.
None of that are reasons for lack of traffic on Bitcoin poker sites. Pokerstars and Fulltilt usually have over 50,000 players online most of the time, so there is clearly no lack of players for online poker. And a huge part of poker players are from countries where its banned. So that doesn't explain the reason why there is lack of traffic on bitcoin poker sites. I feel the reason is probably alternatives to Pokerstars like Americas Cardroom and other sites that accept players from these countries. They are more prefered than bitcoin poker. Also the price swings of bitcoin probably kills their bankroll management.
hero member
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0% if its poker on player vs player.

Its never 0% because every room takes rake. If you put 1$ against the 1$ of other guy, the prizepool wont be 2$, it would be less.

Btc poker could grow in the future, but it will take a lot of time and effort.

Right now, the only reason to search alternatives for stars and fulltilt is being located in US, and even then, i think there are some smaller rooms accept US players.
hero member
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It takes only one person to make a Blackjack game and ten to make a good Hold-em game.

^This. Poker is not a game where you play against the house like you usually do at Dice games or other Casino games, it require players and I guess currently there are not too many players who are interested in it or they don't have the patience to sit and play through it as sometimes it can be a little slow paced, which is why after a while players start going 'all-in' in almost all the hands, it can be argued that it's their tactics but I doubt it is.

And with people coming from all over the world it's hard to get them online at the same time, which could be another factor while you see not so many people on BTC Poker sites. Also, some players on these sites are 'rat-holers' which is frowned upon by some of the poker players.

It also seems that most gamblers here prefer dice sites as you can see in the whole gambling section, mostly because they prefer a fast game, betting fast, poker is not fast, it takes some time and i guess thats why not many people like poker, i personally like poker and blackjack, they have low house edge, 0% if its poker on player vs player.
hero member
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It takes only one person to make a Blackjack game and ten to make a good Hold-em game.

^This. Poker is not a game where you play against the house like you usually do at Dice games or other Casino games, it require players and I guess currently there are not too many players who are interested in it or they don't have the patience to sit and play through it as sometimes it can be a little slow paced, which is why after a while players start going 'all-in' in almost all the hands, it can be argued that it's their tactics but I doubt it is.

And with people coming from all over the world it's hard to get them online at the same time, which could be another factor while you see not so many people on BTC Poker sites. Also, some players on these sites are 'rat-holers' which is frowned upon by some of the poker players.
legendary
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I'm not poker expert or something, but I think that serious poker players prefer games IRL over clicking on web..

This is exactly what I was thinking.  I don't play poker all that often, but really there is no substitute to facing your opponents, having a showdown, and going home the victor or loser.  I have tried online poker but it lacks that certain thrill I get from conflicts.  The only advantage to online poker is that i can do it in my underwear.

You have to also take into consideration the unforeseen team play that can factor in unbeknownst to the poker player in online games.  There you are playing poker with 4 other online players but for all you know those other 4 players are in the same room giving away the goat as far as what their under cards are and how they may team up on you to better their own odds.
sr. member
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I'm not poker expert or something, but I think that serious poker players prefer games IRL over clicking on web..

This is exactly what I was thinking.  I don't play poker all that often, but really there is no substitute to facing your opponents, having a showdown, and going home the victor or loser.  I have tried online poker but it lacks that certain thrill I get from conflicts.  The only advantage to online poker is that i can do it in my underwear.
legendary
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poker is a game that takes many time and it is necessary a big amount of players and tables,it is difficult to triumph
sr. member
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It takes only one person to make a Blackjack game and ten to make a good Hold-em game.
legendary
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The Golden Rule Rules
These sites dont have enough money to offer big guaranteed tournaments, dont have enough trust behind them to offer a sense of security, dont have enough players to lure people in.

Building a succeseful btc site is hard, its not the same as producing yet another dice clone.

Pokerstars have a lot of issues (especcially after the new management came in), but they are still the king when it comes to online poker.. And i dont see btc poker coming anywhere close to their level in the next 10 years or so.

Actually Betcoin shares its tourneys with WPN.  The tourneys are pretty good because of overlays.  I mean, every day there are $500-$15k guaranteed tourneys with small to medium fields.  Of course it cannot compare to Pokerstars, but it's still around mid level traffic.
hero member
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I don't think it's due to the fact that these sites are browser based, it's because most BTC gamblers are not really interested in playing poker ring games, they want to only play freerollsm, either because they don't feel that they're good or they don't want to deposit. And after a while it becomes hard for any site to survive if the players are there only for freebies.
hero member
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It is a shame, I have seen a few threads promoting new poker focused sites accepting btc the most recent PM Poker which looks promising but then I was the only player in the whole site for quite a while, it is hard for these sites to get off the ground.
A major part of that for those sites depend on their software . A lot of them who use mavens just like the old Swc haven't been much famous no matter what offers they have. The new sites are just dividing the already less traffic more and more and its hardly generating any one of them any revenue.


Why don't PokerStars and FullTilt offer web-based bitcoin poker websites?



Missed this question before. Actually they are going to be soon including bitcoin as a deposit option. You can still someway play by depositing on neteller with bitcoin and then using that to fund your Stars account.
legendary
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It is a shame, I have seen a few threads promoting new poker focused sites accepting btc the most recent PM Poker which looks promising but then I was the only player in the whole site for quite a while, it is hard for these sites to get off the ground.
legendary
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guess who's back
Today there is no competition to PS and FT.
If someone really want to do something big in website, he needs to be something like Superman  Cheesy
exactly
They have literally everything that players want
I think if there will be a revolution for BTC sites , this will happen when these two sites start to accept bitcoins
it's hard for any site to compete with these two , and I'm pretty sure more than 70% of the players that don't play at Pokerstars or Fulltilt are forced to use another site , liker Americans and my country too
legendary
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Today there is no competition to PS and FT.
If someone really want to do something big in website, he needs to be something like Superman  Cheesy
hero member
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Players are not enough plus betcoin.ag and swcpoker.eu owns most of the traffic in bitcoin based poker..
legendary
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I'm not poker expert or something, but I think that serious poker players prefer games IRL over clicking on web..
legendary
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#SWGT CERTIK Audited
Players from any other country than US usually play on Pokerstars as they have a much better software. Poker players in the States probably don't know much about bitcoin and probably the reason for the smaller crowd.
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