Why are we not pushing online merchant and services harder for Bitcoin adoption?

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Quote from: Kprawn on April 29, 2019, 12:43:59 PM

I watched the news last night and I saw how people were demanding better service and/or rights by acting collectively. They

might turn to drastic measures like boycotts or Strikes or even mass mailing complaints to accomplish their goals. We want

these services to start to take Bitcoin seriously, but we are not pushing hard enough. I think we should target one online

merchant and then mass email them collectively to ask them if they could consider accepting Bitcoin as a payment option. We

could switch merchants every other week to reach more merchants. Wink

Someone should just start a Poll to ask people what

merchant should be targeted first and then details should be posted about the contact details of their support to get things

started. I have been contacting some services individually, but it is not making any impact... I think if MANY people do this

collectively.. then companies will see that there are lots of demand for Bitcoin payments for their services or goods on their

platform. What do you think, would this work? Huh

I don't agree with this method, from what I'm seeing, this will hurt Bitcoin more than it would help. Adoption must be organic, otherwise it will just fail. Think about it, if we spam some merchant and they would agree to accept Bitcoin (which is not guaranteed, because it's highly suspicious to get such requests out of the blue), but then all the people who sent emails wouldn't buy anything from that merchant, the merchant would end up with a loss, and other merchants will think twice before working with Bitcoin.

I personally would only request Bitcoin payments from places that I already use or at least intend to use.

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Adopting bitcoin is not easy for those merchants that have not enough information on how to use it. Many merchants are also reluctant to accept bitcoin because of its rapid price fluctuations so there is a need to educate them with the basics of cryptocurrency. An information campaign might also needed to raise bitcoin awareness to the people and business to convince them to use bitcoin in their daily transactions.

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i am custumer to buy some goods online be happy when i click purchase i get bitcoin as payment option another one. some time i want to buy goods when they have online store not accepted bitcoin i am pleasure will leave his store and mailed to make option bitcoin payment on the future, if he want me.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on April 29, 2019, 01:20:39 PM

The reason why we're not pushing services is that people seem to be more focused on hodling to get rich and not using bitcoin.

This is true. Even if you have a Bitcoin to spend, question is are you willing to spend it on a bottle of beer, movie tickets or maybe a hotel room if you know that there's an opportunity for that BTC to grow 5% overnight. Lets admit it, we are more focused on holding it than spending it and I guess that is the reason why merchants are not adding Bitcoin as a pay option.

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To be honest I do not know what exactly the point from pushing someone to use something only for he/she to find later that it is not suitable for them before we think about pushing the adoption harder for online merchant we should think about how things will be for them after they decided to start using it, I remember someone posted before the online merchants that is accepting Bitcoin as payment and I decided to visit some of them to check what they are selling only to find that most of them removed Bitcoin as a way of payment and that exactly what will happen again.

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I believe we can put this to a test, because that is the only way we can see the real effects of this campaign. but instead of flooding their support with email i think we can reach out to the marketing team/manager and probably drop the email of the marketing department in here so that individually we can send messages to them. If we decide to flood their main support channel it might turn to be a nuisance and would probably be ignored. We can do this but let's all try and find a better way.

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Quote from: teejayrichard2 on May 02, 2019, 05:29:04 PM

Your idea is not a bad one. I have also thought about how we can make online merchant adopt bitcoin. I believe if we push them harder and make them see how bitcoin usage can be of great benefit to them , then so many of them will adopt bitcoin for use. We should all play our part accordingly so we achieve this soonest.

Like you said the idea is not bad but I still believe pushing the merchant to adopt or add bitcoin payment to their system doesnt seems mature enough for we both know people will always do what will favour them and pushing them will make them think negatively for people love things with passion when it come from the heart which was also the reason why you and I love bitcoin with passion.
What we need to do is woo them and make them know the important of bitcoin and how their business will gain more exposure with profit if they integrate bitcoin into their payment system.

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Your idea is not a bad one. I have also thought about how we can make online merchant adopt bitcoin. I believe if we push them harder and make them see how bitcoin usage can be of great benefit to them , then so many of them will adopt bitcoin for use. We should all play our part accordingly so we achieve this soonest.

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Quote from: Slow death on May 01, 2019, 05:35:51 PM

In my opinion, what we need is campaigns to convince governments to legalize bitcoin, only with clear laws in the world that look bitcoin in a good way will we see a mass adoption. Many merchant will be afraid to use bitcoin because bitcoin is not legal in many countries around the world. There are still many uncertainties about which way governments will take on bitcoin and this is a major obstacle to mass adoption

And where is it illegal? (don't mean 1-2 country, such number will be always in everything). If government doesn't consider bitcoin as a currency, it's usually better because there are less regulations. In some countries it's considered as an system that has nothing common with real money and is mix of mathematical things. Also do you see there is a demand? Personally I can't. One man here started to accept btc payments in his cafe - none transaction during months, also low demand on their ATMs. Just demand isn't enough, make petition on change website and let's see how many people will sign.

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It will take a lot of effort to push them to accept bitcoin as a payment. Before they will agree, of course you have give them enough knowledge about bitcoin and what it can bring to them. You have to make them agree by giving the positive result they can get from accepting bitcoin. Plus, it is also up to them if they want to. Of course the risk in it. It is still depend on the person if he's willing to take such risk or not.

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In my opinion, what we need is campaigns to convince governments to legalize bitcoin, only with clear laws in the world that look bitcoin in a good way will we see a mass adoption. Many merchant will be afraid to use bitcoin because bitcoin is not legal in many countries around the world. There are still many uncertainties about which way governments will take on bitcoin and this is a major obstacle to mass adoption

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Wait, wait, is there demand but not supply? Oh, no, it's not like that, demand is so low, it even doesn't worth for them to accept bitcoin. Also as popular it gets, the more troubles there falls. If amazon/ebay starts accepting bitcoin, I believe a lot of regulations will be set on it and to sum up, bitcoin was greatest at first but every good thing gets abused and for this reason, regulations are always here.

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Well probabily because companies think they do need legal papers to achieve certain approvals in between their softwares for virtual payments transactions with real fiat.
It's just a matter of time till everyone starts realizing it's free to do and accept it as a main payment method without any consequences.
They could also start asking their government and financial businesses about what sort of cons they had to make such as taxing.

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Not all merchants are ready to embrace cryptocurrency due to it's risk and volatility, and not all merchants are aware of cryptocurrency in the first place. It might take sometime, mass adaptation will push companies and merchants to use blockchain technology in their business system.

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Some people think that Bitcoin is an unstable financial system scheme, which is why some people regard Bitcoin as a thing that has a large risk of inflation. Even if we understand better about Bitcoin then we can understand the potential and benefits that Bitcoin has. so actually the application of bitcoin to the financial system of a company must begin with the conscious awareness of the company's owner towards Bitcoin, acceptance and trust will make Bitcoin more developed.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on April 29, 2019, 01:20:39 PM

I honestly don't think that the reason service doesn't accept it is because of volatility, especially lately, it's so stable.

Even if it were because of the volatility (which seems relaxed now), buyers can be made to make extra payment which is refundable if price doesn't rise above the agreed price for the product or services while on transaction. It's an easy way to tackle volatility.

More so, I don't think organising people to boycott services not accepting Bitcoin will help the mass adoption we crave. It will be counterproductive. We should let businesses accept Bitcoin at their own pace. It's a gradual process.

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I do not think we should push online merchant to adopt Bitcoin as a means of payment. The adaptation of bitcoin is growing exponential and it is left for people to want to use it.It is the choice of a merchant. He should be allowed to make his decision as Bitcoin is highly volatile

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I think Bitcoin is still very new currency and most people have no idea about it, they actually have shitty ideas. Besides that it is still very volatile and speculative and I don't think there is a big opportunity for merchants to make such switch in general.

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Quote from: Haunebu on April 29, 2019, 02:33:55 PM

Quote from: eternalgloom on April 29, 2019, 02:19:10 PM

We used to do that here on the forum, but that seems to have stopped at one point.
I can clearly remember threads back in 2013 and 2014 where people would show off emails they'd sent to companies, asking them to accept bitcoin.

It was actually one of the more fun aspects of this forum and a big reason why I initially stayed active here.

I would welcome more initiatives like that, maybe even start some of my own.

While the intention is good here, this could lead to a lot of spam which the merchants might not like and they might ban crypto related emails completely. Honestly, after the collapse of Bitcoin and other crypto in 2018, merchants have been a lot more cautious in this aspect.

I believe that the best path here would be to wait patiently and let them realize the value of crypto and provide BTC as an alternative payment option on their own.

Well I don't mean actually spamming businesses, more like sending one email to gauge their response on that.
Yeah I don't think they would respond well on receiving a dozen emails in a short amount of time :p

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Most retailers are aware of bitcoin but still dont got the convince they can trust it or think it is a hassle to take care off. They will change there mind when more and more competition will add the option to accept bitcoin.

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