You can not compare a third world persons plight with some one in a Country like the States and say they are happy making peanuts. They are not happy,its just what life offers them and the only way to change that is leaving that Country for a better future. You should talk to more people that migrated for a better life and you might understand the issues with people making barely enough to survive.
I don't need to talk to anyone, as I'm an immigrant. Fully undocumented, and proud to be so. I don't have the right to work, nor to have a bank account in the country I'm staying (not planning to stay long, though), and yet I live! I guess I could get the right to work, but I'm not interested. Better be illegal so I don't have to pay tax.
There are some areas of this conversation that seem to be branching off topic and not sure if the "I dont need to talk to anyone" is in reference to me or that you answer to no one because you are illegal! Wanted to get to the meat of why you think people are happy barely getting by but I guess you do not want to address this aspect.
The part about you being illegal does nothing to validate the stance imo because you can be a illegal in many areas of the world and still have a better life than the Countries you referenced in the first reply.
The reply to Saddmapbuh is interesting though,I think there is a drive to make borders less of a factor and remember a group in my neck of the woods called "No one Is Illegal" and they tended to be the same people that where in the environmental movement. The irony was a lot of them where on welfare so they could bus around and
protest all day long and have these sit ins. That movement has disappeared from my radar though because I think the public is very strong on protecting what is theirs and not being overrun with cheaper labour. Protectionism is very high and racism usually follows at times like that as well as people look to blame other groups for the state of things.
Europe has done some what of a job of deleting these borders but at the same time you have the U.K making Canada and USA requirements to carry visas in the future.
Maybe a little push back,will have to see.
@Evildrum
Yes, I was talking to you as you suggested I should talk to people who migrated, well I did. So I know very well my motivations, and those of most migrants. I've seen French people complaining they were barely making enough to survive because they were only getting minimum wage, and I've seen Hungarian people who were happier with a minimum wage which is a third of France...
The "No Borders" movement is still active in Calais, France, to help Afghans, Syrians and other people cross the channel. There are also quite many local people volunteering by giving food or providing various kind of help. I've been in Calais, I've seen all that, and I was very surprised.
It's too late. Borders are paper walls which will totally disappear within a few years. Somehow yet, I agree with you. You should blame all the politicians from the past 50 years, but concort yourself wih the idea that people are not exchangeable. You cannot just replace a British butler with a Somalian one, and that goes for most low-paying jobs.
politicians can't defy the popular will indefinitely, sooner or later there is going to be a backlash and the traitors will be held to account, if trump and brexit fall through things maybe have to get a little worse and then it will be something else but it will happen
I'm afraid there would be riots in every big American city if trump wins presidency.
