Topic: Why Bitcointalk don't use Google Adsense ? - page 2. (Read 3149 times)
Not to mention that Adsense typically doesn't pay as well as other monetization methods (ie direct ad sales like the forum is already doing)
Also because google ads may go way too far from the interests of the people here.
I've seen Caterpillar mining tools advertised on a faucet!! That's not what we mine and what we care about...
I've seen Caterpillar mining tools advertised on a faucet!! That's not what we mine and what we care about...
Thank goodness it doesn't. It would look awful, it would no doubt include some flash exploit, no bitcoins, and would not be good overall for the site.
Being an ex Googler, this is something I'd asked Theymos before. This was his PM response, which I don't believe is privileged information or includes intentions he hasn't stated elsewhere:
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I don't want to insert foreign JavaScript into the forum. That seems potentially dangerous. Also, using external ad services gives them some influence over forum policy because they can drop us. (AdSense would probably be especially likely to complain to the forum about various things posted here, I expect.)
Income could be significantly increased in many ways. For example, more ads could be added, or cheaper premium memberships (like VIP) could be sold. But the main goal of the forum is to be a good forum, not to make boatloads of money, and I don't see the need to strive for increased revenue at this time.
Income could be significantly increased in many ways. For example, more ads could be added, or cheaper premium memberships (like VIP) could be sold. But the main goal of the forum is to be a good forum, not to make boatloads of money, and I don't see the need to strive for increased revenue at this time.
Apart from what theymos has stated, I think, there will also be some problem regarding the Gambling content that has a dedicated section in this forum, as well as one of the biggest market of Bitcoin usage.
Ref: https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/48182?hl=en (Gambling content)
i hope not to happen
would not be beautiful if it is filled with junk ads
would not be beautiful if it is filled with junk ads
personally i like the site how it is now. on other sites i've gone to sometimes ads open popups to malicious sites. but i really hate when i'm on mobile, and then ads redirect me to the app store, even when i don't click on anything. plus the ads on this forum seem more relevant to the topic (bitcoin) and i'm thinking that there are fewer scam ads here, compared to google adsense.
there could still be malicious sites advertised here I think as theymos doesnt check every single one only if they raise a few red flags but he wont advertise them if he knows they are scams unlike adsense.He don't need to check since he wrote that little note under the Advertisement saying that Bitcointalk is not responsable for them :
"Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here."
~ Madness
Yes i think this coz BITCOIN IS BEST
if google pay bitcoins
this be very best but google maybe pay in dollars i think
if google pay bitcoins
this be very best but google maybe pay in dollars i think
personally i like the site how it is now. on other sites i've gone to sometimes ads open popups to malicious sites. but i really hate when i'm on mobile, and then ads redirect me to the app store, even when i don't click on anything. plus the ads on this forum seem more relevant to the topic (bitcoin) and i'm thinking that there are fewer scam ads here, compared to google adsense.
there could still be malicious sites advertised here I think as theymos doesnt check every single one only if they raise a few red flags but he wont advertise them if he knows they are scams unlike adsense.He don't need to check since he wrote that little note under the Advertisement saying that Bitcointalk is not responsable for them :
"Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here."
~ Madness
personally i like the site how it is now. on other sites i've gone to sometimes ads open popups to malicious sites. but i really hate when i'm on mobile, and then ads redirect me to the app store, even when i don't click on anything. plus the ads on this forum seem more relevant to the topic (bitcoin) and i'm thinking that there are fewer scam ads here, compared to google adsense.
there could still be malicious sites advertised here I think as theymos doesnt check every single one only if they raise a few red flags but he wont advertise them if he knows they are scams unlike adsense. 
personally i like the site how it is now. on other sites i've gone to sometimes ads open popups to malicious sites. but i really hate when i'm on mobile, and then ads redirect me to the app store, even when i don't click on anything. plus the ads on this forum seem more relevant to the topic (bitcoin) and i'm thinking that there are fewer scam ads here, compared to google adsense.
If theymos use adsense he will earn maximum 10k per month. And his adsense account will be hold and will be subject for manual review. Plus adsense pays net 30.
Can you tell me how much Bitcoin will be worth next year too?
Being an ex Googler, this is something I'd asked Theymos before. This was his PM response, which I don't believe is privileged information or intentions he hasn't stated elsewhere:
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I don't want to insert foreign JavaScript into the forum. That seems potentially dangerous. Also, using external ad services gives them some influence over forum policy because they can drop us. (AdSense would probably be especially likely to complain to the forum about various things posted here, I expect.)
Income could be significantly increased in many ways. For example, more ads could be added, or cheaper premium memberships (like VIP) could be sold. But the main goal of the forum is to be a good forum, not to make boatloads of money, and I don't see the need to strive for increased revenue at this time.
Income could be significantly increased in many ways. For example, more ads could be added, or cheaper premium memberships (like VIP) could be sold. But the main goal of the forum is to be a good forum, not to make boatloads of money, and I don't see the need to strive for increased revenue at this time.
Oh Alright I see . I didn't knew that Ads could be used for Exploits and gets the forum hacked or something .
Also glad to know that it's not all about the "money"
thanks mate~ Madness
Anything served with adsense is extremely unlikely to be exploitable, but its his general policy to not have any foreign js as that's how bad things start.
Being an ex Googler, this is something I'd asked Theymos before. This was his PM response, which I don't believe is privileged information or intentions he hasn't stated elsewhere:
Quote
I don't want to insert foreign JavaScript into the forum. That seems potentially dangerous. Also, using external ad services gives them some influence over forum policy because they can drop us. (AdSense would probably be especially likely to complain to the forum about various things posted here, I expect.)
Income could be significantly increased in many ways. For example, more ads could be added, or cheaper premium memberships (like VIP) could be sold. But the main goal of the forum is to be a good forum, not to make boatloads of money, and I don't see the need to strive for increased revenue at this time.
Income could be significantly increased in many ways. For example, more ads could be added, or cheaper premium memberships (like VIP) could be sold. But the main goal of the forum is to be a good forum, not to make boatloads of money, and I don't see the need to strive for increased revenue at this time.
Oh Alright I see . I didn't knew that Ads could be used for Exploits and gets the forum hacked or something .
Also glad to know that it's not all about the "money"
thanks mate~ Madness
Being an ex Googler, this is something I'd asked Theymos before. This was his PM response, which I don't believe is privileged information or includes intentions he hasn't stated elsewhere:
Quote
I don't want to insert foreign JavaScript into the forum. That seems potentially dangerous. Also, using external ad services gives them some influence over forum policy because they can drop us. (AdSense would probably be especially likely to complain to the forum about various things posted here, I expect.)
Income could be significantly increased in many ways. For example, more ads could be added, or cheaper premium memberships (like VIP) could be sold. But the main goal of the forum is to be a good forum, not to make boatloads of money, and I don't see the need to strive for increased revenue at this time.
Income could be significantly increased in many ways. For example, more ads could be added, or cheaper premium memberships (like VIP) could be sold. But the main goal of the forum is to be a good forum, not to make boatloads of money, and I don't see the need to strive for increased revenue at this time.
If theymos use adsense he will earn maximum 10k per month. And his adsense account will be hold and will be subject for manual review. Plus adsense pays net 30.
I see two reasons:
1)No control about what is being adverted(can't refuse advertisements)
2)THe terms of service
1)No control about what is being adverted(can't refuse advertisements)
2)THe terms of service
The auction system works well and brings in the same amount of income that Adsense would; just without the risk of being dependent on one company.
In addition to the reasons already mentioned, I've set things up so native forum ads can't be blocked (if the ad is designed correctly). This provides additional value to advertisers which isn't possible with any sort of JS- or image-based ad system.
Why Google Adsense don't use Bitcoin?
It's not a reason , at least I don't see it as a good reason to not use Google adsense . Besides as I said there is Alternatives those days and ads network that pays with Bitcoin .
~ Madness
3) Upfront payment. When using Google, we can't know how much we can earn. At the current price, forum is getting ~$1,924.02087/~10 days.
-MZ
-MZ
How you can know how much we are getting ?
Anyway , what do you mean we can't know how much we can earn , I was watching Statistics and we are getting about 5-10 million views monthly . that would generate easily 50k $ a month . I know that some people do use Adblock .
4.3 BTC times 8 = 34.4 BTC per quarter month, times 4 quarters is 137.6 BTC per month in estimated advertising revenue. That works out to roughly $32k per month.
Additionally a lot of the impressions are of very low quality (from things like spam bots) - it is not faucet quality, but is still bad - and this may be a reason for adsense to withhold payment (even though a very high amount of the impressions are legit).
Also the forum would probably have difficulty serving that many relevant ads via Adsense so it would need to serve ads that are not relevant to bitcoin which will ultimately result in lower pricing per impression/click. With the way the forum sells ads now, it is pretty much a guarantee that all the served ads will be relevant
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