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SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM
April 29, 2019, 12:47:26 PM
Yes I agree with you. Everytime we can not blame bounty hunters that they dump their coins. Yes the fact is distribution is just 2-5% of total token sale So it is not good if we blame only the bounty hunters and all hunters are not dumpers some are long-term holders too on the contrary investors who bought coins with huge bonuses will also dump the coins but I must say if a project has good potential then it can rise after listing too even in year 2017 we have seen many projects boom after listing. A project should be with working product and without product we can not expect a coin to survive in longterm in the current market scenario.
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April 29, 2019, 12:27:51 PM
I come across different posts and allegations that bounty hunters are dumpers and they make projects lose it value upon exchange listing. But from my experience with bounties most projects don't offer bounty allocation of more than 5% of the total token sold. So how will 5% dump have a huge effect on the remaining 95% price. And what about projects that don't have bounties but still dump hard on the exchange, is it bounty hunters too?
The bitter truth is that most projects dump because of the ridiculous number of bonuses the team have offered during the tokensale and pre-sale period. Imagine giving investors 70% bonus for their investments, they can decide to sell everything off and be happy with the 70% profit.

I saw a lot of projects that collected 10 m - 20 m $ from the ICO, and when their coins were below the ICO price they blamed the bounty hunters.
nowdays something like that is normal and it is also always the case that developers who fail to increase demand will always blame bounty hunters.
and I hope that in the future every campaign will user USDT to pay bounty hunter.
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April 29, 2019, 12:09:24 PM
yes, most investors and DEVs blame bounty hunters for making prices fall when they first enter an exchanger,
in fact they are the ones who are guilty of not maintaining the price of their tokens.

Not all you can blame on the bounty hunter. you can imagine investors who buy large quantities of tokens and receive very large discounts. It could be done by investors to drop prices because they have already made a profit.

I guess this could be true since the investor is the first person who bought the token at the very low price and once the token list on the exchange, they can sell it in a fast way and take the profit. It's not all of the bounty hunter mistakes because I think they sell the token because they need to make money from the token. Besides that, they are waiting for a long time before they can sell the token to get the money.
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April 29, 2019, 11:50:36 AM
Yes you are right the biggest reasons for dumps are the tokens given to team members and developers by the owner of the project and secondly the big bonuses to the early and big investors they just sell to take out their seed money as soon as possible.
You are absolutely right, I have noticed that each bounty hunter may receive less than 0.002% of what is given to these big investors, team members are owners.They would want to accuse the bounty hunters of the dump so the public eye will be off the developers effect. But the truth is that a lot of persons know this already. The developers at least would want to sell off some to pay some debts, staff, listing fees and cash out some profits etc.
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April 29, 2019, 11:49:05 AM
Yes you are right the biggest reasons for dumps are the tokens given to team members and developers by the owner of the project and secondly the big bonuses to the early and big investors they just sell to take out their seed money as soon as possible.
You are absolutely right, I have noticed that each bounty hunter may receive less than 0.002% of what is given to these big investors, team members are owners.They would want to accuse the bounty hunters of the dump so the public eye will be off the developers effect. But the truth is that a lot of persons know this already. The developers at least would want to sell off some to pay some debts, staff, listing fees and cash out some profits etc.
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Winding down.
April 29, 2019, 11:45:44 AM
I think you're right saying that bounty hunters are not to be blame by the dump of the tokens. I was once a bounty hunter and I look at the possibility. Figured it all out that every bounty I've been through, there were 1% allocation from the total token pool. So they are not to blame.
Yes, it is understood only by those people who are involved in the bounty. It is obvious that we can not greatly influence the price, but it is not clear who needs to dump the price there.
It is obvious to see the dump reason on the projects after getting listed on the exchange. The biggest influencer is the teams that decide about the future of the project. Bounty hunters have no intention to dump the tokens.
Right. Bounty hunters had nothing to do with the dumping of their tokens because they are just promoting the project itself to attract more investors. The outcome of their tokens is greatly influenced by the team behind the project on how they managed it. So its really obvious that bounty hunters are not to be blamed if ever the tokens end up dumping.
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No more Rekt and Bust
April 29, 2019, 11:33:45 AM
I think you're right saying that bounty hunters are not to be blame by the dump of the tokens. I was once a bounty hunter and I look at the possibility. Figured it all out that every bounty I've been through, there were 1% allocation from the total token pool. So they are not to blame.
Yes, it is understood only by those people who are involved in the bounty. It is obvious that we can not greatly influence the price, but it is not clear who needs to dump the price there.
It is obvious to see the dump reason on the projects after getting listed on the exchange. The biggest influencer is the teams that decide about the future of the project. Bounty hunters have no intention to dump the tokens.
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April 29, 2019, 11:13:38 AM
I come across different posts and allegations that bounty hunters are dumpers and they make projects lose it value upon exchange listing. But from my experience with bounties most projects don't offer bounty allocation of more than 5% of the total token sold. So how will 5% dump have a huge effect on the remaining 95% price. And what about projects that don't have bounties but still dump hard on the exchange, is it bounty hunters too?
The bitter truth is that most projects dump because of the ridiculous number of bonuses the team have offered during the tokensale and pre-sale period. Imagine giving investors 70% bonus for their investments, they can decide to sell everything off and be happy with the 70% profit.



It is always easy to blame people for your failure rather seeking for how to better things. Bounty hunter has always been blamed after the dip in token prices after listing and when even I see such post I always laughed and I start to imagine what happen to the investors what actually is their reason for investing if not for profit making and that can be achieved when you sell your coins and bounty hunter actually worked really hard to get their token so even if they sell immediately I don't blame.
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April 29, 2019, 11:04:12 AM
We have different opinion in this kind of matter well many investors are blaming bounty hunters for dumping the price of a coin that they invested but they can't admit to themselves that it was their failure to invest in a project that was a low quality, and the dumper also is the investor or the owner of the coin to get a profit for it and they put the blame on the bounty hunter.
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www.thegeomadao.com
April 29, 2019, 11:02:26 AM
I think bounty hunters get tokens not for free, but for their labour, time, efforts, intelligence. They work day and night to promote a project and in return, they get a meager portions of the total allocations. And all rights and responsibilities fall upon themselves when it comes to what they are to do with their earned tokens. So there is no point in locking bounty tokens. And how a small percentage of bounty tokens affects the future of a project in such context?  
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April 29, 2019, 10:59:31 AM
yes, most investors and DEVs blame bounty hunters for making prices fall when they first enter an exchanger,
in fact they are the ones who are guilty of not maintaining the price of their tokens.

Not all you can blame on the bounty hunter. you can imagine investors who buy large quantities of tokens and receive very large discounts. It could be done by investors to drop prices because they have already made a profit.
some cases are like that, investors can get bonus benefits up to more than 50% of what they have bought, and usually when a token or coin has entered the exchange and has a slightly profitable price, the investor will sell everything quickly even if only get little profit.
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April 29, 2019, 09:46:58 AM
yes, most investors and DEVs blame bounty hunters for making prices fall when they first enter an exchanger,
in fact they are the ones who are guilty of not maintaining the price of their tokens.

Not all you can blame on the bounty hunter. you can imagine investors who buy large quantities of tokens and receive very large discounts. It could be done by investors to drop prices because they have already made a profit.
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April 29, 2019, 09:30:31 AM
People can be very deceptive and persuasive, especially in crypto.  There are a lot of charming individuals on youtube and social media that can easily hype a project up to new levels.  I don't like to blame the victim so I'd rather we go after these shillers and ponzi promoters.
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April 29, 2019, 09:30:02 AM
I come across different posts and allegations that bounty hunters are dumpers and they make projects lose it value upon exchange listing. But from my experience with bounties most projects don't offer bounty allocation of more than 5% of the total token sold. So how will 5% dump have a huge effect on the remaining 95% price. And what about projects that don't have bounties but still dump hard on the exchange, is it bounty hunters too?
The bitter truth is that most projects dump because of the ridiculous number of bonuses the team have offered during the tokensale and pre-sale period. Imagine giving investors 70% bonus for their investments, they can decide to sell everything off and be happy with the 70% profit.

Projects will surely lose most of it's value when it hits the exchange because there are not that much volume for the projects, and that 5% or 3% bounty tokens will smack the ico price to the ground, same goes for ico's that doesn't have bounty, because investors will dump their coins, the investors can't really keep that 70% profit because of the lack of volume and the spread of price, the investors will instead receive loss instead of profit, unless the project has a enormous volume at the start of listing.
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CitizenFinance.io
April 29, 2019, 09:27:16 AM
I come across different posts and allegations that bounty hunters are dumpers and they make projects lose it value upon exchange listing. But from my experience with bounties most projects don't offer bounty allocation of more than 5% of the total token sold. So how will 5% dump have a huge effect on the remaining 95% price. And what about projects that don't have bounties but still dump hard on the exchange, is it bounty hunters too?
The bitter truth is that most projects dump because of the ridiculous number of bonuses the team have offered during the tokensale and pre-sale period. Imagine giving investors 70% bonus for their investments, they can decide to sell everything off and be happy with the 70% profit.

I cannot agreed less with your opinion here. You re even very polite in choosing 70%, I have seen a lot of projects given investor and presale whooping 100% i.e you get double of your investment. Why they are blaming bounty hunters for the project failure is what I am yet to know, when most of them only allocate 1-2% to airdrop/bounty. Only very few you can see that will give 5% to promote their project. My advice to the upcoming is that, if your are giving away huge discount to early investors (50 - 70%), their must be a lock-up period to safeguard the integrity of your project. The lock-up period will now depend on the entirety of  contribution. Some can be 6 months, 1 year and 2 years respectively. To those who contributed largely, they might have access to some percentage at interval of every six months. This harassment on bounty hunters that brings the project to the limelight of global entities should stop.
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BBOD Trading Platform
April 29, 2019, 09:23:54 AM
yes, most investors and DEVs blame bounty hunters for making prices fall when they first enter an exchanger,
in fact they are the ones who are guilty of not maintaining the price of their tokens.
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April 29, 2019, 09:12:07 AM
Sad to say but it is always happening. They often blame crypto bounty hunters. And developers came out as if they were the victims. Bounty hunters are just the fall guy on the issue. But I think no one should be blame. It really depends on the market and how the developers utilized it. At the end of the day we are all doing our jobs.
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April 29, 2019, 09:00:28 AM
It has always been that way and I don't know why.
Not just in crypto but you could see it in any MOBA games .
It is their fault why they are losing to their opponents yet they would blame other people for it.
I think they just want somebody to blame so they wouldn't look failure to other.
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April 29, 2019, 08:28:00 AM
That reason only the blackmail for covering the real problem.
It's human nature ,right ?

It's reasonable for not give all portion of the bounty for the hunter because it will break their project's market
don't be easy to trust anyone because it can be that person is not good and will destroy you.
and if you believe you shouldn't blame others and blame yourself.
Prize hunters will expect the gifts they have done and that is a good thing maybe, everyone has hope for what they do.
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April 29, 2019, 08:20:55 AM
#99
I have met many projects that blame such bounty hunters. They cannot control the total distribution for bonuses and such blame actions are often very inferior and such projects will soon become scam soon after. I think they should take the time to analyze and work on the project more so that there are more achievements for the project than blaming others.
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