Topic: Why do coaches get sacked over poor performance of players? - page 2. (Read 759 times)

Plenty of people gave the reasons, but I still think that a worker point of view is the rightest one. If the company is not doing good, is it because of one employee, would be able to fire 20 employees and hire new 20 people and hope that it would do fine?

I mean laying off people exists, and waiving players too, but firing your workers and getting new ones all at once never exists, it never happens, I haven't heard about it. Whereas, firing the manager that does worse, and then hiring a new one is simpler. Doesn't mean it would be solved. Like look at United for example, ETH is not a great manager ı can give you that, but not like United has a good team neither, they really suck with each player and for each position as well.

The coach serves a very important role in the player performance and that's why it's believe that a coach and their player's aren't supposed to be having any issue at all because it can lead to the players being demoralized and even take up crazy decision like the OP made insight on the scene that transpired between Jose Mourinho and the Roma players and I believe similar cases have also being witnessed too.

Well, in this there are many things that can be done and thought about , for example things are not like that all the time, because first of all, when things are tried to be done, there is a Team that has done better for 3 seasons and it is the MU and They don't throw out the coach, so for teams that have done much less they throw out the coach, there are other Teams that when they do less they throw out the coach, so sometimes I say yes, the thing is football because they can be very Different, because there are teams They are not like that, they take great care of their players. I have seen that there are many players who agree to take out their players and that is something that is usually very rare in some cases in the Venezuela national team because things were So in the National team, they knew how to see things as such and they took out someone they call "Chita San Vicente", very bad by the way and he was the one who was Thrown out of the entire classification last time.

So when we get closer to seeing it, it comes out that if it has to do with Doing things Wrong and it is with a series of losses, then these things are what I see Wrongly, When you lose a lot things cannot be seen clearly. That way it was obvious that they were Going to be fired , but that's why I give the example of Ten Hag because he is a coach who has Always saved himself, and I don't know what he's got in his head, and that's something that I don't see is Right , in reality In this order of things things are very different, and I think that things can be seen that way, and what I think is that they should have already fired him and Looked for Someone like Mou, there things are very different, now I did think What a club is looking for is because they can give Results, the MU has won something again ? No, have they had UCL recently? No , then things can be very Determining here, now the reason why they haven't removed it=? I don't Understand it.

The management should try to reconcile with the players but if the players who have a rift with their coach happen to be a franchise player or their top player the management has no choice but to sack the players, it's the player who worked hard on the playing fields players and they are the one representing the team, they will have a hard time trading their best player than replacing their coaches, there are assistant coaches that can replace their main coach.

Once a former coach said that football in my area said, if the players' mood is bad then the coach must be blamed and if the players' mood is good then the coach must also be appreciated. This is a real thing, just imagine the team under Pep Guardiola and ten hag, of course the performance of Man City players is better, it's all because Man City players really respect Pep Guardiola as their coach.
A wise and respected coach is the key to a team's success, currently Alonso is in that phase, he is highly valued by Leverkusen players so Leverkusen's squad performance is very good this season.

Coaches get sacked because it is part of their job description to meet some key performance indicators one of which is to bring out the best in a football player under their tutelage that would validate the lump some that they are being paid  by their employees. If you do noy perform well, you are out. And that is what it is. Besides you know that these coaches are never in want for a job because immediately they are fired, there is usually another offer waiting for them.

Coaches who perform well, have a long contract and staying period at their jobs. Everyone appreciates them. Everyone is happy and they are happy too.

the coach is responsible for the whole team perform since he can manage directly their physical form, choices on the style of play, who to send to play and so on... obviously he is personally responsible for these choices and can be sacked in case of issues.
Mourinho case is something different in this case since he was in a particular situation with players... at least for what has been told here in Italy. I don't know if it's true or not, however he is still a great coach (my opinion).

Why do company mangers get sacred if the company is not performing to the satisfaction of the owners, this is normal, if a team is not performing well the blame is placed on the manager, hope you remember that he is been paid and there are obligation that he must carry out and also contract with different sections are being signed between him and the team owners so if he fails on his own his own part what happens, the team is not doing well for now and I think that the club owner can't wait any longer because the need fast result which I don't know if they will get it as fast as they need it, but the truth is that when a team is not doing well the blame will always be for the manger because the team is under the care of the manager so if otherwise happen is to his own detriment.

For sure there would really be those kind of chances given specially if we do speak about into those losing games on which its true that coaches are the main ones who would really be blamed out
but of course there would really be those kind of assessment if its really that on coache's mistake in regarding into those losing game on which we know that there's no such thing about assurance on winning because there would really be always those teams which is way more better compared to another one.This is why it wont really be that much of a precise thing if you are really that
just that looking in one angle just because you do really believe that they are the main ones who should really be getting blamed. So its not that a realistic or normal approach on things.

Jose mourinho sack at as Roma was more political than about performances; Ofcourse the results for Jose at Roma has not been good, aside winning European trophies (the first in Roma history), the coach has been unable to achieve a top 4 finish and to be candid; the as Roma side is not good enough to compete for a top 4 place in the Serie a.

I will like to mention in addition why coaches get sacked

1. Poor performance in the league table; European places etc
2. Fall out with players
3. Fall out with management ( Bayern sacking nagglesman)

Many more…

When a team does badly, they often blame the coach. While players might not intentionally mess up to get rid of their coach, if there's bad blood, it can affect how they play. Firing the coach can be a way to shake things up but clubs need to figure out if it's the real solution or if there are deeper issues with the players. It's a tough call and whether to point fingers at the coach or the players depends on what the club thinks will actually make the team better

The coach is the main person responsible for a team, he is the one who determines the strategy, determines the starting line up and decides on player substitutions when his team is competing. Mourinho dismissal was due to several poor results achieved by Roma in several matches. The performance of the players on the field is the coach's responsibility because he is in full control of drawing up plans before the match starts. Mourinho was very instrumental for Roma, he managed to bring Roma to win the Conference League trophy and reach the Europa League final last season.

Mourinho relationship with his players is very harmonious, it is impossible for players to betray Mourinho by deliberately playing badly which makes Roma lose. Mourinho was still able to improve Roma performance because some of the core players were his former subordinates, but due to management's inability to be patient, Mourinho had to leave Roma in a disharmonious manner.

Team management will fire a coach who cannot make his team win the championship after management has given him repeated opportunities. Management will consider that the coach needs to learn more at new clubs so that they can gain more experience in managing a team. Finding tactics or strategies for his team is not easy, so a coach must have a lot of experience to find the right composition for each player. Moreover, each team has its own ego and may not want to be paired with other players. This is one of the things that coaches have to overcome. Getting a win is the dream of all teams, so the coach's job is very difficult because he is responsible for finding the right strategy.

If we need to understand sport we need put it out there that sport is not only about sport, it as an aspect of management that links what the club wants to the team as a responsibility of the manager, and because these instructions are given to the manager for the team to execute and if they fail to do so, his technically the first to be axed.

Besides, because his given the powers to choose his team and all that & when it's not working... owners don't get to direct there dissatisfaction of poor results to the team but the manager him or herself.  

Think of the manager as player number 1 or team captain and when poor results come his responsible for them and will take full responsibility as the leader.
Its like in a home, if kids misbehave the person responsible for there behaviour it's the parents except they don't get to leave their kids lol

His experience needs to find a way to win their support otherwise deliberate or not...his still the leader responsible for everyone...if it means benching the bad apples as punishment to correct the team so be it...

The coach is the one in charge of the team, he is the one that can bench, trade or fire a player to build the team he wants with the resources he has. The coach gets paid a lot of money to make all those decisions, which makes him the one responsible for the performance of the team in the end. A player alone can't be responsible for the whole performance of the team, which is why the blame is usually put on the coach. This doesn't mean that the coach has all the power and player don't have any power. When the players feel like the coach is not using them for their full potential, or there is a rift between the players and the coach, then the players could start to play poorly. So, the coach has the players and in his hands and the players have the coach in their hands. I think this a fair relationship and it shouldn't be only the players that get fired for poor performance.

A player will have to be stupid to risk their career to play badly to shift the blame on the coach to get him or her sacked. That coach has nothing to lose, he/she lost the job.. so he/she will expose their motives and the players will be sacked too.

In the end, a club is a business and their ultimate goal will be to make a profit, so they will monitor both the coach and the players performance and base their decisions on that.  

Speaking in this context, in my opinion, AS Roma management must study this carefully before deciding to change coaches. Because in my personal opinion, the things that can cause a coach to be fired by club management are:

• Has a very bad performance at the club he coaches
• He often has arguments with the players, so many of the players don't like him (don't get along).
• And finally, the management wants to make changes to the club's playing style (this factor does not mean the coach's performance is very bad).

In my opinion, these three factors are the underlying reasons why a coach can be fired.

So talking about Mourinho who was fired from AS Roma because many of his players didn't like him, I think the steps taken by AS Roma management were very correct. Because if for example AS Roma had to keep Mourinho in the coaching chair, but the players didn't like Mourinho, this would definitely have a bad impact on the club. So sacrificing Mourinho and retaining the players, in my opinion, is the right step. Because after all, the players must be prioritized, because the players are the ones who play on the field. So, if for example the AS Roma players' performance is not good because they are not comfortable with Mourinho, then the AS Roma management must take bold steps to change the coach. And now the AS Roma coach has been replaced with De Rossi and so far the performance of the AS Roma players can be said to be better.

This happens for every sport that has a coach. It's a normal thing and about business relations that whenever the team didn't perform well, it's either the coach is out or the players of it.

I think that most coach understands this and even if they have a contract and it won't be honored anymore by the team's management, they will accept it.

As career in sports is like this. It's a peak of your career when you're winning and you'll just be nothing when your team performs poorly and there's a need to blame someone. But in the end, it's just pure business.

in my opinion it's just gossip, it's like Impossible because they are a professional player who has a responsibility to win the match even if they don't like a coach. In Mourinho case, not just this time, He even did the same thing before, I don't surprise when heard the news about Mourinho because he is a person who have type like this when he was bored to training the club. he was used to doing that, because he wants to be highlighted by the media, so famous that make another club interested to recruit him. I think he deserves an Oscar as coach who can be the actors.

We don't know the real problems that occurred between the AS Roma players and their coach because as far as I know Mourinho didn't have any problems with the players so he deliberately sacrificed defeat so that the board fired the coach because he was considered not good enough in building overall performance, if this is true What really happened is that the players did this on purpose, in my opinion it is very unreasonable because this is not a small league and if they lose a lot of points then AS Roma will be even more left behind by other teams and of course it will be difficult for themselves later.