Topic: Why do islam and people hates each other? - page 2. (Read 2112 times)

I prefer to say that its a philosophy

I am a Christian. I keep on telling atheists that atheism is a religion. They keep trying to sway me to their point of view that it is not. I don't understand how they can't see that atheism is a religion. I am guessing that it is spiritual ignorance.

Oh, yes! I am atheist and I don't understand most of ideas from religious people... I don't understand why do they all inspire people to their point of view. we are all intelligent people and we clear in our desires

What does "peacefully" mean? There are a lot of Christians who are completely interested in saving their neighbors. That's their goal. Sometimes that kind of goal doesn't bring peace to the Christians, even when the Christians gently and lovingly try to turn their friends and neighbors away from the gates of hell using whatever means available, even saying nothing, but simply acting like good friends should act.

If religious people actually followed their religion to the latter they would be unable to live peacefully along side anyone who didn't believe the same things as them, that's a fact, it's rather a sad and ironic thing I've observed that the only way religious people can adapt to society is by ignoring or cherry picking all the bits in their religion that conflict with the rest of society, even then, frankly they still find ways to be intolerent assholes.

Why the fuck can't people go and pick a sensible religion that has no stupid book or contradictory passages in them? Sun worship for example is actually pretty logical and you really would have to be batshit crazy to find a reason to kill people from a ball of fire in the sky that floats harmlessly in space.

If you want to be a 'good' person then at least have the sense to pick a religion that doesn't teach the opression and supression of certain groups of people just because they're different from you.

well you are right

"You only live twice, Mr. Bond."     

IMHO, there is no such thing as "radical" islam. European or moderate islam and islam are not the same things, because "european" or "moderate" islam aren't following the Qur'an and prophetic traditions as an exact instruction. They're following the madhhabs (i.e. doctrines) to avoid the danger of "misinterpretating", which in fact would be a precise interpretation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcgwKneWp24

There are 6 madhhabs (i.e. doctrines) exist, fundamentalists are rejecting them.

islam and radical islam not same things...

religion does not teach people about a bad thing
but people themselves who make bad things happen
as a result of several factors such as greed, poverty, hatred, ignorance, and some other stuff
so we had to changed the mindset of our ownself to become better 

Don't you simply love the Larken Rose videos?   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXiLGaiUuRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjWR4_ekego
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs

Governments don't.

All replies are very helpful to understand what people think of these issues.
awesome!

i not hate islam,
because, religion never taught a bad thing.

but, islamic people
but the people of Islam is guilty, because they like to terrorize innoncent people
ex : ISIS

Neither is it true.  There's a long standing prejudice against "non Han" in China, that's a racial prejudice.  Also ridiculously strong prejudices against marrying non-Chinese, and riots over blacks from Africa in Bejing.  Look at Chinese prejudice against the Mongols for kicks and grins.  I could go on and on but I'll quit.

A great followup to the above ^^ Larken Rose videos is Larken's " The Tiny Dot" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs .

Seems like Snail2 is trying telling us that we vote for our government, and then our government that gets voted in, calls us scum.

It is kinda true. Just take a look at these two short Larken Rose videos to see what it is all about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXiLGaiUuRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjWR4_ekego

Of course, much of the info in these videos is common knowledge among the older Bitcoiners. Satoshi knew it, and that's why he worked so hard to make Bitcoin.

I think that the reason Muslims can be violent as they so often are follows this pattern:
1. You are captured by Muslim terrorist forces and held captive. Perhaps you are beaten;
2. The Muslims use "good cop, bad cop" type of brainwashing on you, making you feel that they are your friend, sort of, at the same time you are their captive;
3. Stockholm Syndrome sets it. You might even fall in love with one of your captors, and it is even possible that a captor falls in love with you. At any rate, you become buddies with them because they have spared your life and have even done reasonably good by you;
4. They promise you freedom if you convert to Islam, but you must be sincere, or you will be tortured to the extreme if you aren't, and are found out;
5. Perhaps you have in mind to escape later, but you agree with them just to get some freedom. They never give you enough freedom to escape; they continue their brainwashing; finally you convert for real so that they can give you enough freedom for escape, but you don't use it (a few people do use it);
6. You become active in the Islamic religion, and the terrorist cell that captured you in the first place.
7. You become one of the new terrorists, and the cycle is repeated.

Place a shark in a tank of water. Block off a section of the tank with a pane of glass, and fill it with goldfish. The shark sees the goldfish. He wants to eat the goldfish. He swims full speed at the goldfish. But the pane of glass stops him, even stuns him a little, even hurts his nose a bit. Leave the shark and the goldfish in this situation for many days. After a while, the shark has learned his limits. Remove the glass pane that divides the sections of the tank. Now the goldfish can swim unharmed all around the shark... most of the time. Conditioning. Brainwashing.

The Millitaries of the world are a bit like this with their soldiers. In the U.S., often a person becomes a soldier voluntarily. He submits to basic training. There his voluntary agreement to become a soldier is used to brainwash him into submission to his commanding officers. A few people die in basic because they are pushed beyond their physical limit. Those who don't die become reasonable BRAINWASHED soldiers. Many go on to become officers, and are trained in how to do the brainwashing without even realizing that it is brainwashing that they are doing. This brainwashing remains with them throughout their lives. They call it patriotic thinking. Try to convince a patriotic ex-marine that Bitcointalk.org has any good in it. Difficult. The brainwashing has told him it is foolishness.

That sentence doesn't even make any fucking sense, lately the Guardian has become absolutely terrible in it's journalism Islam is the religion and Muslims are the noun for people who follow that religion. Whatever point they had went out the window with such a stupid line, it's like Ben Affleck claiming that hating muslims is racist, there's a reason they call hating Jews anti-semitism for example.

Also, the reason Islam is so violent is because they haven't moved on from the middle ages, if you look at the old testaments of other religions you'll see they've had to adapt themselves to society, these guys haven't and so they're getting a lot of shit for it. Add on a shit ton of brainwashing at a young age and this is why you have so many people ready to become martyrs for the prophet.


Ahhh, the old Stalin and Mao were Athiest argument when it fact they made state the religion, I need to stop reading this shit, the stupidity is pissing me off.

Poverty. Hmm. Poverty is the most usual excuse what liberals and leftists using for whitewashing the uncivilized scum what voting for them.

What poverty? Many Arab countries are extremely rich from oil.

Nations such as Saudi Arabia fuel the divide between Sunni and Shiite. They endorse terrorism such as ISIS. You will never hear anything bad about Saudi Arabia in America though because of their energy alliance.

All the hate and violence stems from greed.

Which eyes?