Topic: Why Do People Steal Hundreds of Millions in BTC And Still Get Caught? - page 2. (Read 419 times)

The reason why these scammers are still caught even though they can hack and make off with millions of dollars from their victims is because there are still smarter people who are better than them. Because usually these scammers have patterns and traces left behind during their operations, and this is what the authorities use to track or lure the scammers out of their hiding place. So there's no need to be surprised why these scammers can hack so well but can still be caught by the authorities.

That's called Karma! The Karmic cycle is real and many of us have experienced it. If you have done something wrong, that thing will come back you as a lesson. That why we say - what goes around comes around. That's life for all of us.

Today's technological landscape is so vast and complex, it has become very very problematic for fugitives to hide for indefinite time. And that's how it should be. No matter how pseudo anonymous the cryptos are, the criminals need to face justice, either by law or by life!

I think a lot of them think Bitcoin transactions are impossible to trace and we know there are companies out there that are using specialized Blockchain analysis software and data mining software to trace transactions and to follow the money.

The thieves also make small mistakes, like re-using addresses and or email addresses, so that they can be tracked.

the effort to find a person randomly that has more then $200k that is willing to lose it is more then randomly calling thousands of people and only trying to scam $500

just look at all the scam-buster youtube videos.
leader scammers hire people that have no morals to run lots of different scams on millions of people. knowing that only 1% of millions of people will get hooked in. which still ends up as many thousands of people being scammed for small amounts. where by the moral-less employees get a cut of each scam they get. and the lead scam organiser takes the cut from each of those which soon add up

just look at all the HYIP scams in bitcoin in the 2013-16 era it was not scammer trying to get $200k. it was scammer trying to get $100 from thousands of people, amounts most would risk thinking if they lose it its not a big loss.. and thats how they get so many idiots handing them funds

just look at all the ICO scams and dodgy NFT stuff. they sell crap for <$#### by promoting that their token can reach the highs as the first promoted token sold to its self

scammers get away with it by what they call "low dollar crime=low detention time"
its no secret. tv shows been saying about it forever
heck even old TV shows like "the wire" were showing how drug dealers get away with it by not hauling KG bricks of drugs on the streets doing big deals, but instead 'dime bags' using mauls
where by if caught its not a federal level crime for the maul nor the boss, but a low level fine. scammers know what to do, where by even caught in a crime they have minimised their time. and hoarded their funds away to retrieve once free

the ones that get caught and do lengthy time are the category C of my last post

Not to forget: The web is a 0 trust environment....

Even if you do all perfectly, no the tiniest of mistakes....... but maybe one of your "friends" you are interacting with gets caught by the police for something totally unrelated.....and then the friendly police officer tells this guy:  You will likely go to jail for 5 years, or do you maybe have something to offer that will make you look good in front of the judge

And then your "friend" will tell the police all he knows about you and your scams . and if you were dumb enough to maybe send a pic of the new car you bought with the money from your scams and  it shows also a license plate, all the police needs to get on your tracks...

Then this means one thing only !! NEVER SCAM OTHERS because what ever happens you will be caught or you will suffer everything in the future , it may not happen soon but in time .
no Sin that did not pay in lifetime or even after ,Live fair and life peace .

Because they're all stupid outside of the tech stuff, they're good only when it comes to the creating programs, doing social engineering attacks but cleaning their tracks isn't their specialty, that's why they try to do their crimes as anonymous as much because they don't have a really good grip at getting off the grid. Another reason that I can think of is that there's a public ledger and we know where the money goes there no matter how much you want to mix it with bitcoin mixers, the computer forensics have a way of knowing, they just take their sweet time doing it or it takes a long time. Third reason is that there's a company that's paying top dollar for the best computer forensics and investigators out there to recover those bitcoins so that top dollar people can't afford to mess things up because they know that the pay behind it is big and they've got a reputation that can't afford to be tainted by some computer whiz that's good at computers.

There will never be valid statistics about scammers, thieves who get away will not be published, even those that are not detected as theft are still many. As @franky1 said, each thief takes a small portion of property from many people. What is impossible to happen is that the victims will find it difficult to form an alliance and report it to the police. The chance of this happening is almost close to 0%. This kind of fraud often uses cryptocurrency and BTC cover as its attraction.

There are also scammers that are not even detected by CCTV and the police, such as theft within the family area or smaller scope area. This will never be included in the calculation data and makes the accuracy of the data on escaped and caught thieves/scammer no longer valid.

Theft of large amounts of BTC will usually look to mixers as the first path they take. And the police will of course not remain silent when these large funds start to move, whether to mixers or other services.

There is absolutely nothing that stays ever hidden forever.
You as a thief may have a time to steal and succeed and so also, there could be times for you to be caught.

Thr more higher your commitment is in life is the more wide your deeds are spread so, if you steal once Bitcoin in a huge rate, it is as when you steals ones huge amount of money or treasures that the owner could decide that " No, I will never this this great lost to". And by so, every efforts would be out on deck to hunt and fishes you out.

If you dares to illegally temper with my Bitcoin which I have suffered to laboure til I could accumulate as much in an appreciative valumes, then I must let you know how treasury it is to me and that I would never let go of you.
My Bitcoin my pride!

It really depends on who you steal from. There are people you will steal from and they will let things go. There are also those that won't let things go even if you steal $1000 from them. Also when you steal what is not yours, nature is already against you, so every little efforts made to get to you will be fruitful.

Sadly, many get away with it and that's why they're continuing in doing so. While the attention of those trackers are mostly to the big times, there are a lot of small scams that have been successfully done and forgotten.

And that's because there's no need for them to check it out and reports won't matter to them because the victims themselves will just let it go and will move on and reason out that it's a small amount and they can recover.

So typically, the big ones are being investigated and tracked and use everything in order for them to take it back with the help of these services, chain analysis, etc.

Do we actually have any even approximate statistics of percentage of scammers that get caught and those that get away? Because I have a feeling that it's easy to cherry-pick some high-profile examples, but looking at the bigger picture it might be the case that most scammers avoid justice.

Also, those scammers that steal millions and still get caught are often scamming for the first time and don't take enough measures to hide. Stealing millions in crypto is not a proof of skill because people so easily invest in anything that promises high returns.

they use a Ponzi system, and deliberately invite everyone to join, from here alone we can see the real mistake, this is not theft but a more complex fraud, I think they are not the only ones caught, people with the same intentions will definitely be caught, because there will be many victims came forward. so the rights of those who are cheated will be fought for and tried strictly so that there is a deterrent effect,
If they do steal Bitcoins it will be very difficult to catch unless they make a mistake by making a withdrawal with the bank (just my opinion about the case in the article)

In most cases, some Thieves don't get caught after stealing some millions of dollars, either in Bitcoin or in fait. Some Thieves too are so dumb that they could still get caught. 

@OP, what you must know is that their are different kinds of Thieves. Some Thieves or Scammers are highly educated. Their educational proficiency makes them so smart that they can pull any stunt and steal huge amount of money from different victims. After they have done so, they can go undercover for some months or even years, and while they are undercover, they could be living their normal lifestyle until they are convinced that the case of their theft has yet been dropped by the investigation agency, due to no very good trace after years of investigation. 

Scammers will continue to thief because it has become a profession for them, probably because they feel that is the only way they can get huge amount of money without legally working to earn such money. They have lost their conscience and moral, so it doesn't really concern them, what ever consequences they face in their dirty job. 

The efforts to locate one victim to scam $200,000 is quite lesser than to locate 400 people to scam $500 each. This could be a good reason they channel all their energy to one point rather than to numerous points.

Bitcoin is no longer highly decentralized. There's a possibility of moving the coins through a CEX and convert to a stable coin which is freezable. The government is fully against mixers and of the criminals go DEX, they could also lose what they stole. There are no much exit route for criminals.

BTC has a transparent and public blockchain, so the scammers must also understand the network and know how to use privacy solutions like mixers and CoinJoin implementations to be able to obscure all traces.

Take note that not too many scammers get caught, most of them are caught because their actions drew the attention of the government and blockchain analysis companies, and so they blacklist such addresses and confiscate its funds when it ever gets to a centralized exchange or custodial service. But if an attacker compromises your wallet and steals your funds that is not worth government attention, you cannot recover it.

If the scammer made a mistake like having all the Bitcoin that the scammer scammed in one wallet address then there's a chance that the scammer will be caught since Bitcoin transactions can be traced where the funds is going unless the scammer use a service to mix the coin. There are scammers who got away and I don't think scammers will get all most of the time. As you have known, scammers use many ways to scam people so we can assume that the scammer also have many ways to sell the crypto into fiat without getting caught.

A huge percentage of those who scam get away with it. Very few cases gets global attention which attracts lots of chai analysis and tracking of the path of the funds.

There exists some safe havens where those whk want to live privately using Bitcoin without being tracked or forced to give up their privacy, this fortunately does not provide security for scammers.

Say that to the politician whose children are still enjoying the fruit of their labour.

And about your question why they usually caught
Bitcoin transactions are traceable
Since every record are publicly stated in the blockchain.
This is one of the reasons the government are actively against mixers
It makes them tracing transactions harder.

@Franky1 points are seconded. Some of the criminals are still smart enough to end up in some profit even when they caught
Not neglecting bribery can help you turn the eyes of the law.    

I read the news. I do not saw the ponzi scheme as bitcoin ponzi scheme. I saw it as cryptocurrency ponzi scheme. The coins the scammer used is not talked about on the news.

Crypto can become traceable from mistakes. See monero transaction traced by Finnish authorities: https://cointelegraph.com/news/finnish-authorities-traced-monero-vastaamo-hack

Monero transaction can not be traced but likely the scammer made mistake and he was traced.

If the money is not huge, the hacker and scammer do get away with it. If it is bitcoin, mixers can be used. But know that humans are prone to mistakes that can let their anonymity to be leaked.