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if you already have enough money for the development of a country in the current fiscal year but still borrow to the world bank. it means that the country's leaders are stupid. because borrowing at the world bank there are conditions that must be fulfilled which are detrimental to a small country and very beneficial to a large country. besides that it also has high interest in its payments.
Exactly what i thought too, why borrow money when you have enough to handle the affairs of the country. Most countries that borrows money are actually short of finances to meet up the country’s budget and the only was is to borrow money and it is just as the principle of individuals borrowing money from the bank, you will have to meet certain requirements to qualify for a loan and certain things are being considered before issuing a loan to a country in need like the GDP of the country and other factors as well. The interest rate will definitely be high making it difficult for smaller countries or under developed countries to meet the demands of the loan.
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There is something that I want to outlined for countries that borrowed money from other countries instead of borrowing in World Bank is like it seems World Bank don't borrow some countries money because they know quite well that that particular country may not return that money and if they fail to return the money nobody will fight for them that is why a country borrowed a money from another country knowing that if they fail to return the money they will be a fight between the both countries, that's my taught
I don't understand your writing clearly, I think you want to say that many countries don't take loans from the World Bank because they won't pay back, so the World Bank can't do anything and other countries that borrow money from it can go to war with each other if it is not repaid. First let me tell you that whenever the World Bank lends money to a country, it is not at all that the World Bank cannot do anything if its loan is not returned, there is also a limit to borrowing from the World Bank, if you borrow more than a limit, your country becomes a defaulter, and no country wants to become that, so when a loan is taken from the World Bank, it is very important to pay it back above the fixed interest, and that is what every country wants.

The second thing is that when a country is taking a loan from another country, they make some decisions at the same time which are fulfilled simultaneously. A rich country can either give charity to a poor country or if a loan is given, will give it under some conditions, and no country lends to another country to the extent that it has to go to war with that country to get it back, because loans are always conditional, as you may have heard is the give-and-take era. If something is given, then something is taken, I think you don't have enough knowledge about this, you need to study more about foreign policies.
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Any potential answer has been said but a country or a government is also like a businessman. They don't want to use their own fund for building infras and new projects. A project that will generate them money is likely just being financed by the world bank and that's how they're going to return and pay it once those projects are operational and also start to make money. I'm not sure why even rich countries does need to do that but basically, there's real economics on it.
  Because, some of these countries do that to avoid problems that might come up in the near future. They also do it when they know that they can get it for now and what they want to do with the money is not an emergency issue. They do it with the fear of not being able to get access to it when an emergency situation occurs, so instead of taking from their account, they rather borrow it from the world bank account to carry out what they want to do with the money like infrastructures and projects.
Most of the time countries just do it for development for sure something like a big project that they are planning like roads, instruction, bridges, etc. which could be a big help to the country. This project cost millions of dollars they probably cannot afford all of the government if they just going to pay it all at once, the world bank surely is going to be a great leverage as long as the country has a good record as a country that can pay its debt. Having debts is not actually going to be a bad thing if a country cannot really generate a huge amount of income at once, like on a natural disasters like earthquake or storm, it could easily destroy a huge of places and cost a huge amount of money which something that a country cannot foreseen, that emergency money that we needed is going to be great in order to recover fast in we encounter this kind of problems. As long as this money helps improve our way of living and actually contributes when it comes to the economic aspect on the country it will be a huge help and can be a good thing when it comes to generating money so that the country can easily repay its debt.

There are for sure other sides of this like lending money so that they could have a claim on the land of the country that has debt on them, which probably going to be silent colonization of other countries, I think I watched something like it on youtube about china doing this to other countries.
  Some time countries do this when they know they have what other country needed. So they do it in form of batter. That's, they borrow money from other countries to carry out what they want to do with it and then repay the money with what they have. Some time, they don't borrow real cash, but employ them to carry out the project they want to carry out when they know that it will generate a revenue, then, the money borrowed will then be repaid back from the revenue generated from the project.
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There is something that I want to outlined for countries that borrowed money from other countries instead of borrowing in World Bank is like it seems World Bank don't borrow some countries money because they know quite well that that particular country may not return that money and if they fail to return the money nobody will fight for them that is why a country borrowed a money from another country knowing that if they fail to return the money they will be a fight between the both countries, that's my taught
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A country's debt and private debt are two quite different things. Maybe many people ask, why is a country that is already developed and large and has a fairly high national income, but still continues to borrow from the World Bank? this is because countries need it to develop their economies without disrupting their finances. Because loans from the World Bank usually have low interest and longer loan terms. They also have professionals who can help a country to develop their economy. So a country has carefully considered why they take a World Bank loan, because it is profitable for them.
Yes that's right. I think almost all countries have debt. As long as the debt is for productive purposes there is no harm, there is actually no need to pay it off as long as the ratio to GDP is healthy and the money generated exceeds the interest. It's just that managing a country's finances is not the same as managing personal finances, the scale and complexity are much different, so each country needs to be careful because if the country can manage its debt well then the debt can become leveraged.

Because it must also be known that state debt is a development catalyst instrument. For countries that aspire to become developed countries, debt is the solution because without debt the development process will take a very long time and may not even be implemented. However, a country needs good debt management because there are several countries that have failed to pay their debts and some of their country's assets have been taken over by debt-giving countries, such as airports, ports and so on.
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But what’s crazy is how the world bank simply gives the money to these countries? Or maybe it isn’t as simple as I assume it is. But they give money and I don’t think it has any deadline, collateral or anything as normal loans have. It just seems that the only thing that happens is that the country will be forever indebted until they pay. Many questions arise: how do they make the money they are giving? Etc.

That's very simple, they make it the way all governments make money - by printing it. Printing taxes all the holders of the currency. Your parents who worked hard to have some savings in the bank. It also taxes people who have loans because to "fight" the inflation central bank will increase rates which means your loan is now more expensive and your monthly installment goes up.
It's all a scam if you ask me. You play by their rules from the start and they change these rules as they go.

How do you mean increase the rates? Can you explain. If you mean the rates on the borrowed money then I agree. I did a little research later and I found that the world bank makes money from the interest they charge, but it left me to wonder how much interest it is because I don’t think it is a lot. If it was a lot, countries wouldn’t be borrowing heavy amounts of money.
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the government will go to borrow money from world bank, i see in my country government borrowing money from world bank to build a bridge it's 6.15 km long and spend almost $3.6 billion and now government collect money or earn money from people who's using this bridge, part of the loan can aslo be paid from this money. a government taken loans money for infrastructural development in their country,
This kind of practice also often happens in my country, our government makes large loans to other parties for infrastructure development and is paid in installments, here the conclusion i can get is that the government is trying to get cash quickly for development and payments. with the installment method over the next few years, as long as the money borrowed is used for the right thing then that is a good thing but if the money is used for corruption, that is the work of a scoundrel.

Desperation,schemes or pure ignorance(it's not uncommon for the entire government of a country to be clueless) and then the powerful countries nowadays leverage that, creating almost infinite debt traps for these poor countries.
Debt traps are often used by strong countries to control the resources of poor countries and one example is China, they have controlled several poor countries in Africa, they are really leeches.
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I am not sure about countries but I know that many persons and businesses prefer to use borrowed money because loans are cheap and many prefer loans to spending/investing their own money. I believe it's the same with countries. Instead of raising taxes, raising retirement age and other unpopular measures, why not just borrow some money if it's easily available?
some countries prefer loans than using their own money due to the fear of unforeseen circumstances. so for that, they will decide to borrow money that they will be using so as not to leave their foreign reserve empty in case of emergency issues. For instance, emergency issues like COVID-19 that happened in 2019 to 2020 when almost everywhere in the world knows about. And also sudden war between Ukraine and Russia require funds for a particular country to survive, even the economy of the country will be unstable due to lack of peace and harmony.
   During this time, everyone knows about the curfews and lock downs in the affected areas which will hinder their day to day activities and will lead them to go into borrowing.

Borrowing money from world bank is averagely done when the country wants to maybe take on a large project which requires more money than they have. Imagine you have $50 but you want to do something and need extra $50, then you have to borrow the money from your friend. People who doesn’t know much about you and your friend’s agreement would think that you borrow $50 which they know you can afford, whereas you added it to what you have so you can solve your problem. It can also be because the country doesn’t want to run into financial issues so they would rather use borrowed money than the one they have.
Yes, exactly they are a lot of countries that borrow money to help them complete their uncompleted projects and pay them back with interests.
Some even borrow money to start and complete their projects with the agreement that they will pay them from the revenue generated from this project, and when payment is completely made, then, they will stop the payment. And by so doing, they will not have to use their own money and everything will be moving fine.
   But this one which country has to take loans and use one of their main source of income as collateral, to me, this type is a very dangerous one which need to be review.

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But what’s crazy is how the world bank simply gives the money to these countries? Or maybe it isn’t as simple as I assume it is. But they give money and I don’t think it has any deadline, collateral or anything as normal loans have. It just seems that the only thing that happens is that the country will be forever indebted until they pay. Many questions arise: how do they make the money they are giving? Etc.

That's very simple, they make it the way all governments make money - by printing it. Printing taxes all the holders of the currency. Your parents who worked hard to have some savings in the bank. It also taxes people who have loans because to "fight" the inflation central bank will increase rates which means your loan is now more expensive and your monthly installment goes up.
It's all a scam if you ask me. You play by their rules from the start and they change these rules as they go.
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The World Bank is an institution that allows rich nations to take profit from the poor and they do it all lawfully.

In case you didn't know, the World Bank is a bank owned by a number of rich countries who make money by giving loans to those who are not members of the group and then taking advantage of them the way your bank can take your car if you used a loan to finance it. A bank that is a country, can take land and resources from other countries. It can force certain behaviors like trade routes, military aid, and so on.

Leaders take these loans because they want to show off to their constituents. They want to build something from nothing so they build it with someone else's money.
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Could "building a credit" be a reason? I mean normal people do that, I have an insanely high credit score, last I checked even though I live in a very poor nation, I can take out 90k loan, mind you the average yearly salary here is 8k, so I can take out more than 10x amount in debt if I want to because I have built a great credit score in the past 10 years, took out tens of thousands of dollars and paid it back all the time, and never been late to any of my debt neither.

I wouldn't take out that much credit unless I have a very crucial life or death need, so its useless to me, but if a nation could build a credit score like that, they could take that out and build infrastructure, schools, roads, hospitals, airports, docks and so forth.
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Desperation,schemes or pure ignorance(it's not uncommon for the entire government of a country to be clueless) and then the powerful countries nowadays leverage that, creating almost infinite debt traps for these poor countries.
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Why does a country borrow money from the world bank even when they can afford it
Central/international banks were formed only for countries that needed loans. As far as I know, if a country relies on income from within the country alone, it is not enough to carry out infrastructure development, health, education and so on, Each country that requires loans cannot be more than a percentage of the country's income, this is generally done based on the rules and policies of each country.

The world bank makes the biggest money from debt interest, for this reason the world bank has rules for countries that have never borrowed/sanctioned for this. It is not surprising that like it or not, countries have to carry out debt based on the rules enforced by the world bank, for example: Singapore, America, their dollar currency has the highest value, it could be said that this country has no shortage, but they still have debts to world banks.

In other cases, if a country relies on state income, it is unable to boost the country's economic growth. The consequence is that the country has unexpected expenditure, Another reason that I know is that countries have to go into debt to inherit assets or legacy for a better next generation. There are many other reasons why countries have to go into debt, maybe different countries have different reasons.
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From a businessperson's perspective, it's always better to start making your money with capital that does not come from your own pocket.

What a lot of businessman and tycoons do when they setup new properties and ventures is not start it with money that comes from their pocket. Cause at the end of the day, that's millions of dollars of money that could've been allocated to more important stuff, like paying off an overdue debt, or mobilizing campaigns and events that would magnify the product/service's name to the public. What they do is take out a loan in the bank for the same amount of money that they require to get the whole business going, and instead use that to set it up. They'd use the money they got from the business to set the whole thing in motion, and for the payments? They use a portion of the profits they claim to pay it off in installments. This way, the whole business is kept alive and profitable for the company, and the bank's satisfied and safe cause they're getting the money that they gave out.

This is the very reason why countries and governments take out loans instead of using their own money to start campaigns and programs. It's much safer from an economical standpoint, and at the end of the day, unless you defaulted to the world bank in the past they'd always give you money no matter how much money you owe them.
That is if you have a well-detailed plan and are very sure that it will go well because if not, your burdens are going to get doubled because apart from a failure in your chosen business, you still have an existing obligation which is to pay the money that you have borrowed.

A business is still an important thing and if they know that they can afford it, what's the sense of still loaning a money? Sure they can use those money to pay a debt but the thing is they still have another debt. This is not far from borrowing money to pay the other due loan. Anyway, I know one reason on why loaning money is beneficial. It has to do with the rising inflation rates.
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This might appear a mere or cranky question but yeee. Its been one of the interesting discussions raised by the average and vulnerable citizens in the country usually at when the masses feels the governments are playing over their intelligences and making caricature of them and yet this question keep staying questionable even after being answered.
Question: Why does the independent, developed and  productive countries still borrows money from the World Bank even when they have enough to execute their excused reasons given why they have to borrows the money?
I am interested about this because in my country, we are independent and a productive country with revenues ought to be contented enough to execute the projects in demands of what they still borrows from the World Bank for and yet there is no economical improvements in the country instead we are running economical backwards.

If we discuss debts created by a country, the discussion will be very long. Moreover, debts created by a country are not the same as individual debts. Therefore, even though a country has money, it does not necessarily mean that they do not borrow money from world banks, they still need it to maintain the stability of their currency and economy because printing more money will only create hyperinflation and the end will be a bankruptcy of the country.
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Any potential answer has been said but a country or a government is also like a businessman. They don't want to use their own fund for building infras and new projects. A project that will generate them money is likely just being financed by the world bank and that's how they're going to return and pay it once those projects are operational and also start to make money. I'm not sure why even rich countries does need to do that but basically, there's real economics on it.
You need to know that after the second world war, almost all countries experienced a crisis and to repair these losses, there was a loan option offered by America, in other words, whatever wealth or natural resources a country had had the potential to become a crisis. profitable, still requires financial support. can be used if there are no supporting funds. So instead of building from scratch, improving loan infrastructure is the solution, to be able to speed up the process and require supplies of machines, raw materials and everything needed by countries that are just recovering from war, they need to collaborate with other countries that are ready to provide assistance . but with certain conditions. For example, what has happened recently is that the country of Afghanistan has just become independent and to repair all the infrastructure destroyed by the war, they are now opening relations with various countries to quickly get support in handling all the facilities so that they can become a developed country.

Therefore, making a loan is the right tool, and in this case world banks are an option. But regardless of the pros and cons, for me this cannot be avoided.
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From a businessperson's perspective, it's always better to start making your money with capital that does not come from your own pocket.

What a lot of businessman and tycoons do when they setup new properties and ventures is not start it with money that comes from their pocket. Cause at the end of the day, that's millions of dollars of money that could've been allocated to more important stuff, like paying off an overdue debt, or mobilizing campaigns and events that would magnify the product/service's name to the public. What they do is take out a loan in the bank for the same amount of money that they require to get the whole business going, and instead use that to set it up. They'd use the money they got from the business to set the whole thing in motion, and for the payments? They use a portion of the profits they claim to pay it off in installments. This way, the whole business is kept alive and profitable for the company, and the bank's satisfied and safe cause they're getting the money that they gave out.

This is the very reason why countries and governments take out loans instead of using their own money to start campaigns and programs. It's much safer from an economical standpoint, and at the end of the day, unless you defaulted to the world bank in the past they'd always give you money no matter how much money you owe them.
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Question: Why does the independent, developed and  productive countries still borrows money from the World Bank even when they have enough to execute their excused reasons given why they have to borrows the money?

I think there a couple of reasons why they do. One could be fiscal pressure and a budget deficit. Even well-off countries like China may need to borrow to cover budget deficits, particularly those arising from fiscal pressures facing certain regions or provinces within the country . Also attractive borrowing terms could oftentimes be a reason. World Bank loans often offer lower interest rates compared to domestic lending rates, making them an attractive option for countries like China. The World Bank was created to support countries that could not access capital on reasonable terms to meet their development needs. While China may not fit this description today, it continues to borrow, possibly to address specific development requirements .
Even though developed and productive countries have substantial resources, they may still borrow money from the World Bank to adress specific fiscal pressures, take advantage of attractive borrowing terms and meet their developmnt needs.

Talking about a country including a rich and productive country like China, I agree with you that fiscal pressure and budget deficits are one of the reasons for a country to borrow from the world bank. The loan terms are quite attractive, such as lower interest rates than usual, this could be an attractive option for countries that need capital to carry out development. And even though developed countries do have quite large resources, there are still many developed countries that try to utilize external resources such as loans from world banks with the aim of meeting development needs in certain fields.

I strongly agree with this statement because every country wants to develop their economic conditions through developing their country. Because of this reason, every country tries to develop its transportation system by developing roads, flyovers etc.

Transportation infrastructure is a major part of a country's efforts to increase economic development and the welfare of its population. Therefore, borrowing money is an alternative step in dealing with this situation, because it can help the country raise funds for infrastructure projects without affecting other important sectors such as government programs or payroll costs. At the same time, taking out loans can be a practical tool for financing strategic development projects aimed at stimulating long-term economic growth.
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This might appear a mere or cranky question but yeee. Its been one of the interesting discussions raised by the average and vulnerable citizens in the country usually at when the masses feels the governments are playing over their intelligences and making caricature of them and yet this question keep staying questionable even after being answered.
Question: Why does the independent, developed and  productive countries still borrows money from the World Bank even when they have enough to execute their excused reasons given why they have to borrows the money?
I am interested about this because in my country, we are independent and a productive country with revenues ought to be contented enough to execute the projects in demands of what they still borrows from the World Bank for and yet there is no economical improvements in the country instead we are running economical backwards.

Borrowing from the World Bank not only makes economic sense or stability for those countries,but it also benefits the World Bank.Well developed countries are intentionally getting into debts at the costs of the lives of the citizens.

We are in a global economy where growth is expected to remain stable and extremely buoyant,but it just the reverse that we see every passing day.The world bank is expected to play a role of assisting developing countries achieve economical stability and growth.They're meant to offer knowledge,and expertise experience.
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This might appear a mere or cranky question but yeee. Its been one of the interesting discussions raised by the average and vulnerable citizens in the country usually at when the masses feels the governments are playing over their intelligences and making caricature of them and yet this question keep staying questionable even after being answered.
Question: Why does the independent, developed and  productive countries still borrows money from the World Bank even when they have enough to execute their excused reasons given why they have to borrows the money?
I am interested about this because in my country, we are independent and a productive country with revenues ought to be contented enough to execute the projects in demands of what they still borrows from the World Bank for and yet there is no economical improvements in the country instead we are running economical backwards.

It would help if you gave particular examples, because outside of extraordinary events - rich and developed countries tend not to rely on world bank loans. There are examples, take black Monday in the UK for example, a while ago where financiers targeted the country strategically to make a lot of money and it actually worked, shorting the pound sterling or something along those lines. That required a big handout, but it is usually paid back much quicker than many borrowers otherwise would. In fairness, it is often the richer countries that contribute chunks of the funds that get lent out, so if they have to rely on them occasionally that feels like a fair reward and they'll every so often let struggling countries off debt, as long as reforms are taking place.
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