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November 24, 2014, 03:04:12 AM
#51
I bet it's for he's own safety Cheesy A brilliant man with an eye for details... he has probably thought things through a thousand times. I'd like to see him cash out those bitcoins without attracting attention though Grin He'll be forced into fame in the end Tongue
AGD
legendary
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Keeper of the Private Key
November 24, 2014, 01:35:45 AM
#50
Somebody posted this link, but it was deleted. Found it quite an interesting article on topic.
https://www.coindesk.com/dangerous-satoshi-nakamoto/
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November 24, 2014, 01:11:18 AM
#49
I guess paid gov. shills trying to get Satoshi out.
I'm pretty sure that he would be in great danger if he revealed himself. It would be one of those 'suicide' / 'accident' cases again.  Roll Eyes

This sounds like a very likely outcome.
Stay low, I would, as well.
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Minimum Effort/Maximum effect
November 23, 2014, 07:38:52 PM
#48
In Japanese, satoshi nakamoto means central intelligence Roll Eyes

Really? I think we need this clarified, what does it actually mean to a Japanese person?

I have heard it said it means, Clever man in a recent article,

I was thinking it was source of wisdom...
and somewhere else I'm sure I've heard other translations.
I think it would clear things up.
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Beyond Imagination
November 23, 2014, 07:12:38 PM
#47
In Japanese, satoshi nakamoto means central intelligence Roll Eyes
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J
November 23, 2014, 06:39:29 PM
#46
Riiiight, and 100 years ago you would have been Napoleon.

Explain yourself.

Sorry to disappoint you that I'm not rotting in a gutter somewhere.
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November 23, 2014, 06:24:55 PM
#45
Riiiight, and 100 years ago you would have been Napoleon.
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November 23, 2014, 06:20:40 PM
#44
I guess paid gov. shills trying to get Satoshi out.
I'm pretty sure that he would be in great danger if he revealed himself. It would be one of those 'suicide' / 'accident' cases again.  Roll Eyes

What do you mean? I just did lol.

I'm already getting gangstalked. You know what that is? They aren't going to wipe me. I wouldn't care if they did anyway. What are the promises of God for people unjustly slain. I put my faith there.
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Terminated.
November 23, 2014, 04:59:16 PM
#43
I guess paid gov. shills trying to get Satoshi out.
I'm pretty sure that he would be in great danger if he revealed himself. It would be one of those 'suicide' / 'accident' cases again.  Roll Eyes
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November 23, 2014, 04:58:05 PM
#42
The Fallacy of the Super Hero:
That all must gaze upon them for guidance rather than to search their own hearts and minds for the answers.

The power of life is that it is truly immortal, evanescent, and ever changing with the world.
Living things are composed of simple nodes, they are self-organizing,use energy, they respond to their environment, living things grow and reproduce.

So does Bitcoin,
 It is composed of individual nodes with the entire copy of it's existance inscribed within
It is composed of a network of nodes forming hierarchy that extends far beyond it's code but to the people that use and support it
It uses energy to live
It evolves to ideas and conditions, constantly mutating into new better forms fit for it's environment
It grows every day and reproduces into new forms, untethered from it's parents history.

If you build it right there is no source, it is whole on it's own.

I believe it is because Satoshi wants us to evolve to find the true answer, without searching for their blessing.
If their is no God Head, there is no permission that needs to be asked, Gods Creation will determine if your creation is worthy to live and evolve.
The creator wishes for other creators to tantalize their mind, to find equals, sovereigns to call friend.

The Artist does not wish to be admired for their work, They take delight in the million fold perspectives that unfold within the Audiences mind.
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November 23, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
#41
I don't even hold the coins someone else has them. So, seriously stop asking why I haven't spent them. I would if I could because I am broker than one should ever admit to. Ask bradlyinDC what he's doing with them.

The psychosis accusations are largely true but I don't look at it that way. If you saw what I saw you wouldn't call it a mental disorder. That book is largely true but incomplete on the whole ordeal and there are metaphysical practices that can ease the tension a situation like this creates. For me, it is largely yoga practice, grounding, getting down with nature, and qi gong. Following a lot of things in this book actually helped to http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=KundaliniPracticeSkillsList

I actually contacted that author at one point and she has helped me out a lot because the amount of people kundalini active are so few that I guess she doesn't exactly have people beating down her door to talk to her.

Though, at the time someone had come to me on a message board like this and been like hey you come up with this idea what do you think about it. I think it was at a time when we were all charged up about ron paul and looking to make a difference that this really transpired. After the psychosis ordeal and escaping barely with my life I needed to wind down. In addition, things were not going so hot in my love life either and was feeling down and out and really wanted nothing to do with it at the time. Also, I had no idea how many coins they had mined for me or really care to lead anything or be involved in the movement for that matter. My main focus was on feeling better and trying to understand some of the extraordinary circumstances that had happened to me at the time.

I was able to find things that made me feel better emotionally and mentally as well as a lot of good literature. Though, nothing from the western world. Most the ideas were eastern in nature: kundalini yoga and some of these spiritual leaders that had emerged from the east (Gopi Krishna, Paramhansa Yogananda)

Look I'm talking like a conspiratologist, talking about a figment they group, but I really have no idea how the group satoshi nakamoto came about or why they chose it or for that matter who was all involved with the white paper. I do know they wrote the paper based on my recommendation given at the time based on my time with the government as a patent examiner. My line of thinking at the time was to put the idea in the public domain instead of patenting it. That way if someone was to sabotage the currency with more mining power we could roll out another digital currency and start over. This was to prevent someone with more resources from claiming the lions share of the mining power. In addition, though I am not scared of any government entity (though I fervently watch this IRS targetting scandal waiting for justice because I was focused in on that, got audited by the assholes) it was a concern at the time that this whole idea of minting a digital currency could in fact get you in trouble with government forces per se. This was based not really on speculation but hard evidence because at the time you had the Liberty Dollar getting shut down and also why a lot of this came about but a little known gold back digital currency at the time the American Eagle. I became fascinated with the concept of a digital backed gold currency because it is the digital age after all. In addition, I am a holder of physical gold and silver (I know I said I am broke but it's really not much) and I know how hard it is to actually spend your physical holdings into circulation. So, really the idea to mine in an a decentralized manner was  to prevent one entity from essentially running the currency as a whole and actually in the end protect it (again basing this on the liberty dollar, american eagle). So, essentially I was not some seer but could see the line in the sand that the government and fed had drawn about competition.

I am a terrible programmer barely passed my freshman engineering C++ class. I spearheaded the idea but in no way carried out, implemented, or for that matter mined any of the coins. Someone else actually mined them for me.

My influences were largely from the conspiracy movement and a lot of the info that was floating around during the Ron Paul campaign in 08. I was highly influenced by a lot of anarcho capitalists ideas and in fact a lot of my inspiration came from the book Case Against the Fed by Murray Rothbard which, I never in fact read to completion. I liked the money masters a lot, ideas of colonial script, and the greenback during the civil war days. I became convinced essentially this whole debt instrument swap BS that the fed does was all smoke and mirrors. This was based largely by history as there had been instances of people circulating unbacked paper currencies, tally sticks (stuff without intrinsic value per se and it functioning as money). At the time an argument erupted about the intrinsic value phenomenon but again like I said history seemed to prove that wrong. My best guess is if you don't believe me read that book or watch the money mastes. Honestly, I just read a lot and not really books. I'm a message board junkie. I like reading ideas by common folk that may or may not of ever been listened to by anyone else or anybody important for that matter. I surf godlikeproductions mostly for news but there are a whole new sort of crazy people floating around there anymore and I never really post. I use it more of a breaking news site and  I use to follow infowars, rense, the power hour, you name it (GCN network stuff). I use to be an avid listener of Alex Jones but don't really bother much anymore.

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November 23, 2014, 02:13:06 PM
#40
From what I read about him:
Satoshi just wasn't a social person. I am pretty sure, he even had some kind of psychosis.

I prefer psychosis or transcendence:

Maybe he's Alan Greenspan's Tyler Durden.
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November 23, 2014, 01:42:36 PM
#39
Why does Satoshi remain anonymous?

I think because he has trillion dollars worth bitcoin and on which he don't wanna pay tax..  Wink

Actually, the speculators would piss themselves in fear if the satoshi btc has moved. I think he knows very well that it would be the biggest crash if he touched those coins.

If he was motivated by making money, I think he would have cashed out already a long time ago.

Obviously there's a chance that he/she will move it, but I highly doubt that.

actually, if he moves the coins off-market, it probably wouldn't even be a huge crash. there would be a whirlwind of speculation and the price would probably go down a bit, but that's probably about it.
I agree that if he were to start to move any bitcoin in any of his known addresses then there would by huge amounts of speculation and that people would put a lot of effort into trying to figure out where his money is going and trying to figure out his identity.

I would say that it could potentially cause at least a short term crash as people might speculate that he is about to sell a portion on exchanges (either directly on an exchange or OTC)
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November 23, 2014, 12:41:40 PM
#38
From what I read about him:
Satoshi just wasn't a social person. I am pretty sure, he even had some kind of psychosis.
So, he don't want any media attention about him self.

I prefer psychosis or transcendence:

http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/downloads/kundalini-psychosis-or-transcendence.pdf
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November 23, 2014, 12:37:07 PM
#37
If Satoshi was alive, functional, and had the keys, it appears likely that he would have been constantly dividing, sending, and mixing his coins into randomly sized, multiple, more diverse, and less identifiable accounts.  

That he did not do this suggests that he is either dead, not interested in money (even though he created a currency), lost the keys, or feels an obligation not to debase or discredit the currency by spending the early mining proceeds.

The totality of his actions, even when he was active, suggests that he feels an obligation to the currency that he created.  In other words, perhaps he has integrity, if you can imagine such a thing.

I strongly disagree with this. If he were to be constantly spending his mining proceeds by creating dummy transactions then every time he were to push a TX to the network then his IP address could potentially be exposed (even if he were to use TOR). Every transaction that he would push would potentially lead to his doxing. As a result he would not want to try to hide his identity by mixing his coins in this way.

My theory is that when he decides to one day decides to spend his bitcoin he will start a mixing service and use his own mixing service to mix his bitcoin. If he was to never spend his mining proceeds then he would have likely destroyed his bitcoin by now in a publicly verifiable way.

Satoshi does not want his identity known because of the attention that it would get him (just look at what happened to the poor guy from the newseek article last winter) and him not being anon would almost guarantee Bitcoin's failure.
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November 23, 2014, 12:21:52 PM
#36
From what I read about him:
Satoshi just wasn't a social person. I am pretty sure, he even had some kind of psychosis.
So, he don't want any media attention about him self.
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November 23, 2014, 11:55:59 AM
#35
If Satoshi was alive, functional, and had the keys, it appears likely that he would have been constantly dividing, sending, and mixing his coins into randomly sized, multiple, more diverse, and less identifiable accounts.  

That he did not do this suggests that he is either dead, not interested in money (even though he created a currency), lost the keys, or feels an obligation not to debase or discredit the currency by spending the early mining proceeds.

The totality of his actions, even when he was active, suggests that he feels an obligation to the currency that he created.  In other words, perhaps he has integrity, if you can imagine such a thing.
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November 23, 2014, 11:23:55 AM
#34
Because he is simply smart, and it really dosen't matter if Bitcoin was made by Goverments it self because they have no control on it  Roll Eyes
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J
November 23, 2014, 10:32:05 AM
#33
I'm guessing if people really knew satoshi it would be bad for bitcoin because he has personality issues.
AGD
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Keeper of the Private Key
November 23, 2014, 09:48:25 AM
#32
It would be dangerous for both him & his family to reveal his identity.

Any smart man would do the same.

Why? Because someone could steal his Bitcoins?
That & exploiting information potentially harmful to Bitcoin (as we already know the success of BTC equals the downfall of modern banking).

If he is trying to protect his money by disappearing, why doesn't he spend at least some of it?
Aren't there better ways to protect your wealth? I mean, most of the "smart" rich people doesn't need to disappear and they are still alive.
Which "potentially harmful" information could that be on an open source project?

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