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Topic: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin? (Read 3947 times)

legendary
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June 27, 2011, 10:49:40 PM
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i also had the opportunity to be an early adopter as i got in touch with bitcoin in it's early start, just didn't gave it the importance i should, and now i'm a full supporter of Bitcoin, not a hater...

If i have to be angry with someone it's with myself, not with Bitcoin or it's users/early adopters.
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Because they were in the position to be an early adopter and missed out on it. They can relieve some of their anxiety by shitting on it now.
newbie
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Who cares reddit loves them and that's all that matters.
full member
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Calling Ayn Rand, who is a respected figure among cyber-libertarians
Too bad she was pretty short on reciprocity with libertarians in general.   Grin
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
If anyone really has something to say other than a personal attack/rant I will be happy to respond!
Pointing out that Greenspan left office years before you claim he "nationalized the banks" is not a personal attack.

Until then i consider the so called "libertarians" to be about as rational and the "National Socialists"  of 70 years ago.

Until then i consider the so called "libertarians" to be about as rational and the "National Socialists"  of 70 years ago.

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newbie
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I want to add that I really have found thousands of cool things and people through /., and they are still a 'goto' news resource for me. But I don't often have the patience to wade into their comments anymore. That being said, one can often find real gems there if you do.

Also, sometimes it's fun to bait the trolls...

As have I on both items.

When you have a bunch of Mod points then reading the trolls can be fun.  Grin
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But the rest of them are surprisingly good peeps!

BOTH of them LMAO!  Grin
Thanks Karen, Grin

I want to add that I really have found thousands of cool things and people through /., and they are still a 'goto' news resource for me. But I don't often have the patience to wade into their comments anymore. That being said, one can often find real gems there if you do.

Also, sometimes it's fun to bait the trolls...
newbie
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But the rest of them are surprisingly good peeps!

BOTH of them LMAO!  Grin
newbie
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I'm a mostly reformed /.er, and I started there before the 2000 recession. So FWIW...

Imagine all those asshole 13 year olds playing Modern Warfare online, trash-talking over the mike.

Now imagine they're in their 30's or 40's and haven't changed, other than maybe not being in Mom's basement anymore.

That's 60% of the /. crowd.

But the rest of them are surprisingly good peeps!
hero member
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firstbits.com/1kznfw
No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.
Rob Malda, founder of technology website Slashdot
On the launch of the iPod in 2001

Nailed it.
legendary
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They also hate the bitcoin crowd in hacker news...

Look what some dude made Cheesy

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2613271
newbie
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If anyone really has something to say other than a personal attack/rant I will be happy to respond!

Until then i consider the so called "libertarians" to be about as rational and the "National Socialists" of 70 years ago.
newbie
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Maybe some science guy (not payed by the government ;-)) should study the pros and cons of bitcoin  and show the results in public!



I thought the basis for Bitcoin was in fact a paper from a "science guy".
newbie
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Yeah most comments on / . are hates. Seems to be common among most people who comment.

True in this forum as in every other  Cry

We live in an age of "anti-heroes"  Cry
newbie
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Yeah most comments on / . are hates. Seems to be common among most people who comment.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

You certainly are a good representative of the typical trendy socialist /.'r  Why?


I never respond to name calling.

Your "facts" are totally wrong, especially about my TV habits (I don't even own a TV!)

Nevermind your lack of a TV (I've never owned one either).

Calling Ayn Rand, who is a respected figure among cyber-libertarians, a "Goddess of Libertarianism" is not going to engender a constructive conversation.

You don't get to decide what years Greenspan was in office as Fed Chairman.  That is a fact you have no jurisdiction over.

Greenspan was not in office in the year 2008.  There's no way he could have "nationalized the banks" that year.

Understood?
newbie
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You certainly are a good representative of the typical trendy socialist /.'r  Why?


I never respond to name calling.

Your "facts" are totally wrong, especially about my TV habits (I don't even own a TV!)
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
I'm a slashdot guy and I don't hate bitcoin. I don't love it either though.
I do however find the rampant libertarianism that comes with bitcoin somewhat annoying.

I too am a Slashdotter who is pretty neutral about BitCoin!

Like Libertarianism itself Bitcoin is going through a transition from elegant theory to brutal reality.

To put that another way: "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, in practice there is!"

The Goddess of Libertarianism and "Objectivism" (Ayn Rand) was happy to collect her (gasp) government Social Security checks for many years. Her great prophet Alan Greenspan was the (government) person who Nationalized the US banking system in 2008.

Likewise the great and noble idea of a totally abstract form of money is starting to attract some serious crooks of various types. Up until a month ago all we saw were amateurs, now there is enough money (however you define it) to attract some serious thieves - not just script kiddies and small time con artists.

Sorry folks "I calls them as I sees them".

You certainly are a good representative of the typical trendy socialist /.'r  Why?

-  You love to bash libertarians, but have a terrible command of the relevant facts.  EG, Greenspan left office in 2006.  And the Federal Reserve Act nationalized the banking system long ago, in 1913.

-  Your catty, emotional dislike of "all-time" bestselling author "Ayn Rand" makes you expose your ridiculous penchant for overusing the "Look@me, I'm being sooo snarky and sarcastic" quotation marks.

- You get your worldview mostly from Viacom's corporate liberal entertainment complex (Mahar, Maddow, Stewart, Olbermann, etc.) and parrot it without the benefit of critical thought or even cursory fact-checking.

- You think that Democrats are like, cool, and stuff.  Or at least you did in 2008, when you voted for Obama.

Sorry dumbo, but you're not the only one who ""calls them as I sees them"."

And Ayn Rand had every right to reclaim the money stolen from her at gunpoint, under pretext of 'social security.'
newbie
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Like Libertarianism itself Bitcoin is going through a transition from elegant theory to brutal reality.
Similar view on Bitcoin as well. Simple idea - no middle-men meddling in your monetary exchanges. When it comes to that, Bitcoin works great "in reality".

We are seeing just how well the Bitcoin world works as the more competent hackers and thieves (i.e. beyond script kiddies) decide to play.

This is essentially what banking and currency were until about 200-300 years ago the current set of crazy banking rules developed because thieves at every level forced the regulations.

My family lived in Arizona when it was still a territory and have some real horror stories about banks that simply disappeared with everyone's savings.

At least now the crooks have to get creative (Worldcom, Enron)

I suspect that if ever Bitcoin becomes widespread it will in fact look very much like any other bank/exchange (PayPal, Western Union, etc.)
newbie
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Definitely, it will NOT just stay within the hackers circle.

For now it fails the "Mom" test.

When my Mom can figure out how to use it to buy an antique lamp on eBay, it can go mainstream. For now, even techies I know are having trouble getting their heads around the concept.

The main thing between them and using bitcoin is the economic decision to invest time in understanding it. Current assessment for most? "Why bother?"
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