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Topic: Why don't people under ISIS rule buy bitcoin? (Read 3200 times)

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 16, 2014, 01:29:26 PM

Quote from: Sheldor333 on August 16, 2014, 10:06:26 AM

Most likely because it is hard to get it and hard to use it. Remember you have to have internet connection and a mobile phone at least to buy it and use it. Not everyone has that, and that is holding it back. In my opinion at least.

Most of the people living in cities such as Baghdad and Basra are having broadband internet connection, although the same can't be said about the rural areas, such as the ISIS-infected villages of Al-Anbar. Grin

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From what I can tell from news reports, most of the places that the ISIS has under it's control are more rural areas, and a lot of what they have under their control are the mountains in Iraq. It may make some level of sense for people in the major cities in Iraq to buy bitcoin prior to the ISIS taking over where they live.

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Whether they actually use it or not is not really relevant.

What's relevant is the accusation that they do. It's a little too good to be true, but there are no fact checks in the news.

If you wanted to destroy bitcoin today, associating it with ISIS might be a one of the easier ways... It's really hard to have a good comeback, because you can't really prove that they don't, so whatever you say you're screwed because it will sound like you acknowledge it as a fact the second you open your mouth.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 16, 2014, 01:29:26 PM

Quote from: Sheldor333 on August 16, 2014, 10:06:26 AM

Most likely because it is hard to get it and hard to use it. Remember you have to have internet connection and a mobile phone at least to buy it and use it. Not everyone has that, and that is holding it back. In my opinion at least.

Most of the people living in cities such as Baghdad and Basra are having broadband internet connection, although the same can't be said about the rural areas, such as the ISIS-infected villages of Al-Anbar. Grin

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Is this true in Iraq? Broadband?

Almost everywhere in Iran, even Tehran, was 56k connection in internet cafes. Only in companies did they have broadband

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Quote from: ffe on August 11, 2014, 04:21:00 PM

Quote from: Mikerogers on August 11, 2014, 01:21:02 PM

Why don't people under ISIS rule buy bitcoin?

Because they're running for their lives?

yes it's true, or they are busy enlarging their network area.

because in my country so in condemns ISIS

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Quote from: Sheldor333 on August 16, 2014, 10:06:26 AM

Most likely because it is hard to get it and hard to use it. Remember you have to have internet connection and a mobile phone at least to buy it and use it. Not everyone has that, and that is holding it back. In my opinion at least.

Most of the people living in cities such as Baghdad and Basra are having broadband internet connection, although the same can't be said about the rural areas, such as the ISIS-infected villages of Al-Anbar. Grin

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Most likely because it is hard to get it and hard to use it. Remember you have to have internet connection and a mobile phone at least to buy it and use it. Not everyone has that, and that is holding it back. In my opinion at least.

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As far as I know, there are a few users from Northern Iraq (Kurdistan) active here in Bitcointalk. But I have never encountered anyone from the Central or Southern cities, such as Baghdad or Basra.

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Quote from: TaunSew on August 11, 2014, 10:05:39 PM

You're all kidding, right? ISIS is not Al-Queda or the Taliban, ISIS is like the first international terrorist organization to have a huge social media presence and they supposedly have $2 billion in cash. They've definitely heard of Bitcoin.

Iraqis owning Bitcoin is like Argentines owning Bitcoin. In theory it sounds possible but in practice who wants to exchange their Bitcoin for some worthless currency? They're supposedly paying $1000 equivalent in Peso for Bitcoin in Argentina.. in Iraq they'ld have to pay like $2000+ equivalent in Dinar.

lol shut up

ISIS are a bunch of lunatic Sunnis who've taken control of the Sunni dominated region in a place where the security forces didn't give a rats ass.

They're media savvy lunatics who filled a vacuum, don't fall for their propaganda. They'd get stomped if they invaded any other country.

Iraqis are a weak people who won't fight to save their own countrymen. If you dropped the entire ISIS force into any western nation they'd be stomped so thoroughly it'd be laughable.

As for why people in Iraq aren't using bitcoin, are you fuckin shitting me? The post above this one sums it up, how fucking sheltered are you idiots? They have bigger concerns on their mind, like the genocidal lunatics running around in humvees.

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on August 13, 2014, 08:37:45 AM

People under ISIS rule are too busy avoiding getting slaughtered, trying to find haven in a war torn region, and basically living on necessities like food and water.

I don't think Cryptocurrencies are at the top of their mind.

This should have been the 2nd and last post of this retarded thread. How fucking sheltered are you people?

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Does ISIS even allow use of the internet? From what I've seen that group is no joke. They were so extremist that Al Queda said no thank you to them.

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They haven't heard of it. In the future though situations like will help drive people to bitcoin.

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Quote from: franky1 on August 12, 2014, 07:18:16 PM

Quote from: iluvpie60 on August 12, 2014, 10:02:19 AM

You do realize you get killed or they force you to do thing if you do not pay a tax right? This isn't like some good time terrorist group. They kill their own people all the time for reasons and for no reasons. I don't understand how you can think at this level. THEY ARE TERRORISTS and they are gonna take what they want. They will take your computer or kill your wife for not paying them or whatever. Plus since terrorists know about btc and all that they will know people are hiding it, so that blows your whole argument out of the water... people will gladly give up money to save their own life.

i love how media have spoonfed this info to you.

i bet you even think that Baghdad looks like a shantytown like this:

yet Baghdad actually looks like this:

These two pictures are highly focused on a small area of Iraq (I assume that the 1st picture is taken in Iraq). It is true that a lot of Iraq is war torn (as it has been going through one war or another for over 10 years now) but a lot of it is also somewhat modernized and beautiful and has a lot of history.

The people under ISIS likely fear for their lives and have little money to worry about it getting stolen. If they wanted to they could convert it to bitcoin, however the ISIS is not killing Christians because of their money, and are generally not taking a lot of money, but are rather killing because of their religion.

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Quote from: Mikerogers on August 11, 2014, 01:21:02 PM

http://www.panture.com/bitcoin-could-financially-liberate-citizens-under-isis-rule/

I see people from Iraq and Syria on the internet, it's not like it's shut down. When terrorists come to your down asking for a tax, just show them that you have nothing. All you have to do is hide your private key, or use an online wallet like Coinbase. Using something like PayPal or Western Union can be risky, as terrorists are aware of it, and those services don't like doing business with those citizens anyways for obvious reasons.

We need to focus on educating people in third world countries more, that is where bitcoin can do the most good.

It's not that easy, about 400 years ago when Manchurians invaded China. Manchurians made a law in occupied territory, that each month the Chinese must pay 3 bushels of grain per person (doesn't matter how you get it, you can buy it or grow it yourself) OR be beheaded.

ISIS could just adopt a similar policy.

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People under ISIS rule are too busy avoiding getting slaughtered, trying to find haven in a war torn region, and basically living on necessities like food and water.

I don't think Cryptocurrencies are at the top of their mind.

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How do we know that many people under ISIS rule aren't using BTC? If it was so prevalent that we were aware of it, than ISIS would be aware of it as well and would raid / torture people looking for private keys.

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Quote from: pandacoin on August 13, 2014, 06:55:45 AM

Because they have bigger problems. I know most people are poor and can't connect to internet. Even some people know about Bitcoin, they don't have any money to buy and hold it. Not everybody live like USA citizens. I think you don't know anything about living in Middle East.

Yes, this is true.
people who had to flee from the ISIS terror have no time to think about bitcoin, nor have the ability and resources to buy Bitcoin.
They are fighting for their life.

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They are real morons.

Never use their brains for good cause.

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Because they have bigger problems. I know most people are poor and can't connect to internet. Even some people know about Bitcoin, they don't have any money to buy and hold it. Not everybody live like USA citizens. I think you don't know anything about living in Middle East.

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Well been as most of the infrastructure in Iraq has nearly been completely destroyed with little or no access to electricity or the internet, I doubt many Iraqi's are in a position to buy any btc.

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Quote from: Mikerogers on August 11, 2014, 01:21:02 PM

http://www.panture.com/bitcoin-could-financially-liberate-citizens-under-isis-rule/

I see people from Iraq and Syria on the internet, it's not like it's shut down. When terrorists come to your down asking for a tax, just show them that you have nothing. All you have to do is hide your private key, or use an online wallet like Coinbase. Using something like PayPal or Western Union can be risky, as terrorists are aware of it, and those services don't like doing business with those citizens anyways for obvious reasons.

We need to focus on educating people in third world countries more, that is where bitcoin can do the most good.

I was interested to read your posts, you connect using bitcoin with terrorist crimes. and if they want to keep online bitcoin wallet should use as the use of personal wallet on a PC or gadget that will be at risk destroyed or stolen by them. and you can not be anything

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