Topic: Why don't you stop SPAMMERS yourself, admins? #RaiseYourVoice (Read 656 times)

Most one-liners are spam. I've seen this throughout the * discussion boards.

It is too generally to solve spam like that.
A good post does not mandatory to be a long one. A simple answer with Yes/No is enough for OP, even without explanation. To ban one-line spammers, moderators have to look at post history, and scan some posts in context, at least.

Another minus point for your proposal is the list of unofficial rules of the forum does not have very strict punishments on spammers. Spam is rule violation and will be caught, reported, handled then temporarily banned or nuked. However, punishments depend on intensity and severity of spams.

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If one temporarily banned, I think the ban should be applied globally, over all boards/ subboards in the forum; not only restricted in boards/ subboards that they made posts which triggered their temp-bans.

I don't feel reasons to have reduced-temp-bans that restrict on particular boards/ sub-boards.

Yes I have some ideas I'd like to share:
#   First, those one-liner spammers who spam a specific board needs to be taken care of by immediately getting banned from posting in that area, this will clear up around 20-30% of the actual spam happening on the forum.
#   Then, looking for those who post off-topic replies or beat dead horse or do necroposts needs to be done and banhammered. This will help to clear up around 50% of the shitposts happening in many equally important boards like gambling and altcoins but shit is spread there a lot compared to other boards. These 2 boards need to be taken carefully if we want our forum clean and tidy.

These ideas however won't work out till our mods and admins think over them and take any actions. Users are blaming me how I can think of these ideas but they are not getting my intention that, spammers who spam in a specific board should not be given a chance and should be temp-banned from writing or even visiting that area till they show any signs of improvements through contributing in other areas of the forum.

Soft-Banning spammers automatically is a thing on other forums such as nulled, leakforums and a few others where leechers get banned if they don't contribute to the forum constructively and they stay banned till they do so.
This works fairly well for those forums where people post to collect freebies. Can you tell what algorithm should be used over here to prevent the spammers and auto soft-banning them, if you have something in mind?

Well, give me a number of users or show me examples that how many of the users we are talking about, have actually shown any signs of improvement? Leave that part and tell me something,

HOW MANY CHANCES DO YOU WANT FROM THE FORUM?
WHY SHOULD YOU BE IGNORED AND LEFT IF YOU ARE CONTINUOUSLY POSTING SHIT AND DOING IT JUST TO GET YOUR SIGNATURE QUOTA REACHED?

The proposal I presented here, has been made taking a lot of things into consideration and one of them is that a user will be warned at extreme by being banned from posting in a board if he spams there. Tell me something man, if you have interest in something, will you talk shit about it? So the opposite goes as, if you talk shit about something, should I take it as you have a lot of interest and knowledge of that thing you are talking about? No. If you have interest in a board, you would rather contribute than making shit posts because then, there is no chance that you will spam. Spammers are those who don't know anything about the topic they are speaking on, but they just do the 'blah-blah' thing and continue doing it until they are sig-banned or permabanned from the forum. I think the best way to give them a chance is to stop them from spamming in those boards where they do it and warn them that if they continue to do it in other boards too, they will either get their sig banned or they will themselves get banned from the forum, while also giving an amount of days like 60-90-120 days (you guys decide) till the board ban is applicable and that's when you will be able to either improve or get kicked from the forum if you completely stop posting or don't improve and continue to spam.

Suppose you have an individual who has been known to spam.

Their posts are worthless and for the past couple hundred posts, someone has been reporting literally all of them.
These posts are removed. The user continues to post. The posts are continually reported.

Such is the case when it comes to the top users of my farm suppression list.

How many of them do you think improved their quality?
How many of them do you think simply stopped posting?

I'm not going to tell you the answer to the first... but just know that from what I've seen so far, it's a single-digit number.

You might took what I'm saying in the wrong way but I'm not in favor of the spam happening around the forum yet do we really need to ban them just to get rid of the spam? Don't we have a better way of removing it at the same time not removing the members' right to post on boards where they are interested in it? I know that most of these members are just posting to earn money and they aren't interested in the topic at all but does that mean that they don't deserve the chance to improve and act accordingly?

Freedom of speech to spam up a private forum, are you serious mate? No-one has any rights to communicate on a private platform, they have to abide by certain guidelines in order to participate here. One of those guidelines is to not post garbage on a regular basis and to actually contribute something to the discussions they respond to. Spamming is a serious problem right now.

I'm not mad, I'm just thinking about it clearly and fairly for them. So you think banning them would be a good solution for them? Can't you see by going into that method you are just not giving them a chance to improve on themselves? At least when their posts gets deleted frequently it can serve as a wake up call that what they are posting are shit. Limiting them on certain boards wold make it unappealing for them to visit boards that they are restricted to post and they aren't even given the chance to be part of the conversation.

I think your idea looks a bit complicated and you're trying to invent a bike. I know about what kind of users you're talking about, but in general they aren't breaking forum rules. If you see them spamming, just use report button and mods will delete their posts. Banning users from specific board will mean that spammers just would move somewhere else. Maybe it would be better idea to disable signature of user if significant number of his posts were deleted?
This is new thing for me. Is it exclusive case, or there was more users who were banned from specific boards in past?

there is already a thread where you can report spammers(I assume you already knew about it?) and creating another one even if it is just to specifically report your spam is unnecessary.
like I said earlier no one is claiming that you are a spammer and it was just a misunderstanding between the two of you.

Why should I delete that thread? Are you scared to take part in it?  
His comment was not the only reason why I made that post, but there are several reasons. One of them is: I have always learnt that when we fight for something especially involving justice, we should never be partial to anybody and significantly ourselves ' you know you'd think that you're not criminal even if you've committed a crime because you are partial to yourself to save yourself'. I am not that type of person, if you believe I spammed and I deserve to be removed from the campaign or forum or get a signature ban and the only way you think, to get it done is 'Report to Moderator', do it instead of going my way.

For your convenience, I will be changing the content of OP of that thread so not to accuse UserU of anything in that thread but I'll not edit it here so we may have an example of misunderstanding and how it gets cleared.



I never targeted users specifically posting in gambling but used that board as an example to show how someone tries to spam in a specific area just to reach their minimum posts number.

Since you are specifically talking about posts in the gambling section it is important to mention that usually only BTC campaigns (casinos, sportsbooks) require users to post there. Those campaigns are managed by a handful of managers who check the posts and if they consider them to be spam they will not be counted. The reputation and the future in BTC campaigns of the participants is also at stake so they will think twice whether to spam or not.

Altcoin campaigns have in most cases no reason to look for visibility in the gambling section unless they are also a casino for example. Altcoin signature campaigns is where the most spam comes from. If you were to ban them from posting in one area they will just go to the next one since altcoin campaigns don't have many posting limitations that I am aware of. 

it seems it was just a misunderstanding and the issue has been resolved between the two of you and no one is actually accusing you of spamming, I guess it's time to lock or delete the thread you created.
link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/did-i-spam-report-me-right-now-rmrn-raiseyourvoice-5194601

No hard feelings, glad we got it cleared up. I should have phrased it better.

Appreciate if you could edit the previous post to avoid further misunderstanding between the rest..

Thank you so much for clearing this up. Now FYI, OP means Original Post made by the thread starter, so next time please learn more about the abbreviation you are using before you shoot it. And thank you again because your word 'spammer' (though not referred to me) has lit up my insane obsession to come up with a lot of things that could help the forum in one way or the other and I will now do everything I can to remove this word 'spammer' from the forum completely.

FYI, the "OP" was directed at Harlot, not you. So I was NOT referring to you.

Seems there has been some misunderstanding.

Ahhh it feels too bad when you are trying to deal with the bad and then you're yourself pictured as bad by some like this guy UserU. I've got something here for you that I saved earlier during noon:



Got that, sucker? I don't know what has made people like you so intensely jealous when we want something good for the forum. You want me to spam? Well I will show up with something nobody else would have done before, I promise you that.

Please go to all the previous signature campaign sheets I have been into, you can also ask managers why I was removed. It was never due to spam as I never did it, I was removed because I had been inactive mostly. Anyways, a thread is up for you if you believe that I spammed -

Did I spam? Report me right now. #RMRN #RaiseYourVoice

Just because his wearing signature doesn't mean his a spammer already. Yes signature often required members to post as many as they can due to signature. But, there are some people posting but instill the quality of posting.

Also, the members here is bit more versus the mods that can handle every section and boards.

Gambling section is one of the example of signature requirement  section for btc paid campaigns. Well I guess those participants have no choice but to post right? But there is mode to make sure those participants are still with the same topics on this board. If not, Just report to moderator or probably his post will be deleted.

If you read the OP's post history, you're dealing with a signature spammer himself.